Demon Explosion is broken to ****.

[CremeEgg82]

Balance and class synergy/design doesn’t exist here. I’m just getting on with living with that fact.

Watched Alibab for a bit in lair last night, does consistently decent damage to the mobs, never gets hit, uses no pots, loses no dura, makes consistently high amounts of cash from hunting with little spend.

Defiance being as beneficial as it is with no penalty is broken. Element stacking is broken. Weapon refines/resets/MR with no chance of breaking is broken. Accessory refine being 100% is broken.

There is potential some other areas are going to show up as being equally as broken, the spirit set is 50% crit chance and then add in pig and a couple of other crit items you are looking at 65% crit chance and high element. GG that’s going to balance out well.

I’ve given in to the fact that I don’t have to agree with the meta, just have to take advantage of it and play.

 

[Jamie]

3k

The only way its dealing 3K damage, is if the person has about 150 Phantom and 125 SC, Level 3 Pet and Explosion.

Lv3 Pet = 2750 Health.
Lv3 Explode = 50%
SC = +1 Damage
Phantom = +10 Damage

 

[Ksx]

The only way its dealing 3K damage, is if the person has about 150 Phantom and 125 SC, Level 3 Pet and Explosion.

Lv3 Pet = 2750 Health.
Lv3 Explode = 50%
SC = +1 Damage
Phantom = +10 Damage

Or he had dis phantom..

 

[Jamie]

Or he had dis phantom..

Sure, but I gave the OP a bit more credit than to complain about the damage of Explosion whilst wearing E- Dis

 

[Drakay]

The only way its dealing 3K damage, is if the person has about 150 Phantom and 125 SC, Level 3 Pet and Explosion.

Lv3 Pet = 2750 Health.
Lv3 Explode = 50%
SC = +1 Damage
Phantom = +10 Damage

its still hitting 1375 and that’s with no SC/Phantom added.

With some SC/Phantom it’s gonna 1 hit everyone on the server?

 

[CremeEgg82]

Can it crit? If so then 3k isn’t so impossible?

 

[irene]

I have 1.4k HP,i am not every1, soo dont cry, this pet is OP since wemade global release.

What problem with he now?

 

[NewUserName]

Pet was always gonna be OP, surprised it hasnt been fixed.

Defiance is retarded, completely negate all damage, gain good gold, hunt highest caves with little problems

Element stacking should never have been a thing, ppl did tell Jamie in beta, but guess it fell on deaf ears.

 

[xXxX]

Same as taos hitting half a screen further than wizzys :disturbed:

 

[LightBringer]

I was watching a Tao with the pet Level 2 (didnt check SC and phantom) but was hittng over 3k damage on ice creatures, didn't catch the stats but when I saw it; I was pretty surprised!

 

[Pottsy]

Same as taos hitting half a screen further than wizzys :disturbed:

How so? lol.

Pretty sure everyone would have the screen limitation?

 

[NewUserName]

I actually cant believe the pets been left like this.

 

[TheDayIDie]

Hah all the salt. I'd like to see how it pans out because the 50 pet wasn't in GSP for a long time - think tao's must have been level55+ before GM realised it didn't drop.

Elements are a big issue on tao/wiz though. They are so powerful.

 

[CremeEgg82]

Maybe Jamie would do best checking the code, 1905 non crits at level 2, 3030 crit. SC & Phantom numbers aren't huge either. (Imgur link for people that want bigger res: https://imgur.com/a/c0Lji)

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Also be interested to know if these spells have level 4 options and what the coefficients are at those levels. Assuming a level 4 pet has higher health and explosion level 4 does a higher percentage, the numbers would be huge.

 

[Pottsy]

Against mobs....lol.

 

[CremeEgg82]

Against mobs....lol.

Well since I don't have access to the logs I can't go check what it hit another player for, however Jamie could. But the example of numbers isn't massively far off, those mobs don't have phantom dis, they have a moderate amount of MR.

Calculations vs players shouldn't be terribly different.

Also, as I've said in the post I'm not against this spell per se, I'm just raising like everyone else, the inconsistent balance and some of the more broken aspects of the game that seem to just get brushed under the carpet anytime anyone mentions them.

 

[Jamie]

Maybe Jamie would do best checking the code, 1905 non crits at level 2, 3030 crit. SC & Phantom numbers aren't huge either. (Imgur link for people that want bigger res: https://imgur.com/a/c0Lji)

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Also be interested to know if these spells have level 4 options and what the coefficients are at those levels. Assuming a level 4 pet has higher health and explosion level 4 does a higher percentage, the numbers would be huge.

Level 3 Pet = 2720HP
Level 2 Explosion = 41.6666%
66 Phantom = 660 Damage
59 SC = 59 Damage (At best)
Red Poison = 20%

2720 * 41.666% + phantom + SC = 1133 + 660 + 59 = 1852 Damage.

1852 vs Phantom Advantage 1 and 46MR = 1667 - 46 = 1621.

1621 + Red Psn = 1621 * 1.2 = 1945 Damage.



What am I checking my code for?

 

[Piff1]

Jamie do you have Autism ? You love dem numbers bruh.

 

[Jamie]

Jamie do you have Autism ? You love dem numbers bruh.

People lie, Numbers don't.

Therefore Numbers > People.

 

[CremeEgg82]

Ok so no checking needed, its fine you've given good examples, which is probably all people ask for.

Are there any differences in calculation vs players?

Assuming a fight between the highest level players currently with the health pools they have, almost no one would survive a hit from this. How does that seem balanced?

Alibab as example has about 1670hp and 117mr, he's 4 levels higher. How would a best case calculation look against him?