Removal of Bound/Greed Stones.

Removal of Bound/Greed Stones

  • Completely Remove

    Votes: 44 60.3%
  • Significantly lower drops and break on all types of death

    Votes: 16 21.9%
  • Keep as is.

    Votes: 13 17.8%

  • Total voters
    73

Turrican

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they could just be removed alltogether from the database. then they would simply disappear from peoples bags. That's what I'd do if this were my server :P
same, removing em from drops isnt solving the problem, they need removing from game completely. they could add an npc for people to sell the useless husks back for a few quid so no hard feelings.
 

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same, removing em from drops isnt solving the problem, they need removing from game completely. they could add an npc for people to sell the useless husks back for a few quid so no hard feelings.

they could just be removed alltogether from the database. then they would simply disappear from peoples bags. That's what I'd do if this were my server :P

They won't just like they didn't with dura gems/orbs it would be unfair to do so, they will be left to die out on their own.
 

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I can't believe there's even a poll for this. There's nothing wrong with a person, guild or group of players putting the effort in to get to the top and dominate but no game/server can survive if it doesn't encourage balance amongst the players. Better geared players have an advantage in PvP/PvE, that greater advantage should come with a greater risk.
 
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I can't believe there's even a poll for this. There's nothing wrong with a person, guild or group of players putting the effort in to get to the top and dominate but no game/server can survive if it doesn't encourage balance amongst the players. Better geared players have an advantage in PvP/PvE, that greater advantage should come with a greater risk.

Pretty much sums it up lol.
 

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Pretty much sums it up lol.

Sums up only a part of it. How about the unexpected lag outs you will get regular basis ?

The top geared players (unless its wizard class) won't die easy and having a quick TT finger when it's needed isn't a great skill to have.
 

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I can't believe there's even a poll for this. There's nothing wrong with a person, guild or group of players putting the effort in to get to the top and dominate but no game/server can survive if it doesn't encourage balance amongst the players. Better geared players have an advantage in PvP/PvE, that greater advantage should come with a greater risk.
This. This 100% sums it up. No other game has safeguards for lag spikes etc, so theres no reason for Mir to have one. If you have great gear, you should have equally great risk of losing it. Where is the fun in a game that you can't lose? Imagine playing a fighting game, with no risk of losing health. It's the same as playing Mir with no risk of losing good gear. It will inevitably contribute to the game becoming boring.
 

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I can't believe there's even a poll for this. There's nothing wrong with a person, guild or group of players putting the effort in to get to the top and dominate but no game/server can survive if it doesn't encourage balance amongst the players. Better geared players have an advantage in PvP/PvE, that greater advantage should come with a greater risk.
so basically the more effort and time you invest with the game, the more you should be punished ? ...to me sounds selfish to say so. In other words, if you are better geared and obviously u have an advantage at pve/pvp should piss off and let the rest of the weekend crowd enjoy it ?

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This. This 100% sums it up. No other game has safeguards for lag spikes etc, so theres no reason for Mir to have one. If you have great gear, you should have equally great risk of losing it. Where is the fun in a game that you can't lose? Imagine playing a fighting game, with no risk of losing health. It's the same as playing Mir with no risk of losing good gear. It will inevitably contribute to the game becoming boring.
Bet your brain never wondered why some wizards never wear BoundStones, yet they lose a lot of gear worth a lot more then the actual BS price.
 

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Sums up only a part of it. How about the unexpected lag outs you will get regular basis ?

The top geared players (unless its wizard class) won't die easy and having a quick TT finger when it's needed isn't a great skill to have.


I have been lucky not to have any lag outs tbh, but I might just miss them at busy times.
I do know were you are comming from, But not all players with great kits wear bound stones anyway, So they take that risk anyway and with the price of them and weight of them lower players don't really have the option, even if they do have a few really great items.

I seen someone mension make them rarer but that would only cause the problem thats already happening. Certain guilds and players are all ready controlling the game and items there for there is no market for the new commers or players without a guild or in small guilds. The economy really is screwed but thats always something that has happened.

I would love to solve the problem by simply getting rid of lag but mir has always has lag(thought I do admit this one don't seem to bad for it).

I sadly still believe the stones need to go since I see ppl simply running in taking zero risk simply because they know very worst is they loose boundstone and few pots etc way better than loosing an item.
 

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Xiez everything you are talking has happened in every mir server. BS removal wont change how mir always worked. About the people who chose not to wear BS while having a good kit on, you should ask Mace for example why ?...he will answer you his good kit is in storage and he dies so much is not worth the BS price :)(no offense Mace just took you as example because I seen you drop some good stuff, Violet dies a lot also, like every other wizard in this game that's playing a lot)
 

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Hi Wild.

Yes I know it always happens in everyserver m8 thats what I'm getting at there is always the mass that control all and always will be, I don't really have much a problem with that tho.

But it is a risk and makes you a better player(sometimes), I understand wiz have very low hp and so forth I die a fair bit myself on mine specially against bosses that pretty much 1hit ko me. I dunno if you mind but I was in Truefamily with you under a diff name, and it was same there only diff was USA didnt have body drop.

But before that every server had body drop, That was the price to pay for risking taking the best bosses etc.

You gamble on getting good items back from bosses control the cash/items in game so even if you loose good items most likly another friend will pick it up. If not well since the server is controlled by big guild and ull be loaded its no worrys. You can ether find another or simply buy back.
Put it this way some of the rubbish u get on a daily basis is gold to me but I don't have the same oppertunity as you because I can't afford a decent enough kit to start with.

I do understand lag is an issue, but as for the rest its just the way its always been.

I can't say agreat deal on lag because I also despise rewinds something silly.

Everyone is going to have diff views on this. I understand pkers will love the idea of these being removed from game. And ppl who get alot of lag will never want them out.

But it would take the none risk factor away I see ppl purposily doing thing they wouldnt imagine if they knew they couldnt drop kit. So it take away talent for them ppl.
 

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WildGirl, if you can't deal with the risk of losing your kit without a boundstone I find it hard to believe you as a mir player/fan.

Too many games these days have no punishment for player mistakes (and yes the lag outs - tho the lag outs, every single one I have been able to ride out and remain connected to server so to call them "lagouts" might be wrong, massive lag spikes perhaps.

All I hear is "I want all the items evers and I don't want to lose them evers." Grow up and get back to playing mir properly for ****s sake.

When are the BoundStones going to be removed? Is there an E.T.A or anything from the Server team yet?
 

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Foopah I deal very well not wearing a BS, Violet isn't tho. So many people are selfish but they are also lazy crybabies that are vocal on this forums.

There isn't always everything about YOU. That's why middle solution should be taken to this problem: make BS rarely drop.

EDIT: Foo who are you in game ? Who I have the honor to contradict opinion ?
 
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1.5mil a stone now on market, smart people are buying up.... smarter people would be storing up.
 

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Few good SW wars or events involving PK and the stashed BS will be gone. There can always be a solution that can satisfy everyone.

Lets not punish some people for the entertainment of others (or for their selfish ago).
 
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Omg this is still going on?? PLEASE just remove them COMPLETELY

Everyone is absolutely crapping their pants and its fantastic!!!
just lol i completly agree :lol
 

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Foopah I deal very well not wearing a BS, Violet isn't tho. So many people are selfish but they are also lazy crybabies that are vocal on this forums.

There isn't always everything about YOU. That's why middle solution should be taken to this problem: make BS rarely drop.

EDIT: Foo who are you in game ? Who I have the honor to contradict opinion ?

I actually voted to have them reduced to very rare in drops not to remove completely. It would be nice if they were still in game but only extremely rare and someone to have one to protect their kit is quite lucky. But where everyone and anyone can get one, defeats the point. I would like to see it to the stage of "**** should I risk breaking my last BS or just risk maybe dropping?" Because they are so rare and in turn very expensive.

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Few good SW wars or events involving PK and the stashed BS will be gone. There can always be a solution that can satisfy everyone.

Lets not punish some people for the entertainment of others (or for their selfish ago).

lets not reinvent a 12yr old game, killing what mir has always revolved around, turning it into another generic mmorpg for the sake of a few people who die a lot.
 

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lets not reinvent a 12yr old game, killing what mir has always revolved around, turning it into another generic mmorpg for the sake of a few people who die a lot.

There's already enough punishment. Unlike other servers you cannot special repair items here (unless its weapon) and if you die on a hunt and get revived (lost BS) then you have another risk of losing kit (on top of losing a BS).
Ask Selena from your guild if he regrets he didn't use a BS today...

Stop being selfish.