Sword Oma's

[Razarus]

Poison is level 13, no? It's a core spell just like repulse or heal, so I don't think that's a valid argument either.

I missed out a word in my original post "a new use from a lvl 13 spell" presumed it made sense what i was saying, presumption is the devil.
Poison does not get better with each level. if at level 52 poison started to tick at 300hp per second (that of what 5 level 7 sword omas could do) then i would also suggest that changes..
It does not get stronger with levels though, so again i think my point still stands.

Wizards are pet tamers, fine change it so I don't have to lvl up for better pets . Just give me sword oma @ lvl 3 E shock.

Every class should lvl up for pvp and pve reasons but if there is no incentive then what's the point? may as well just get max sc/dc/mc and gem the kit to +3 gg you have reached end game. Then what? get bored and quit?

Sarcasm is not the best way to contest someones opinion, I understand that wizards are pet tamers this has not been up for debate, its the pets that are available that we are discussing and the potential for complete imbalance.
please step aside from being a wizard for this debate and look at the whole picture.

do you think 5 level 7 sword omas with blizz and met on almost constant cast is a balanced class?

 

[evilwomann]

What about warriors and lr? Higher lvl the warr more mobs he can lr

tao with hallu? And trap hex?

sins trap?

what about wizz's tu? At 52 I can tu everything in Bdd pretty successfully!

do you want all this changed aswell?

 

[Razarus]

What about warriors and lr? Higher lvl the warr more mobs he can lr

tao with hallu? And trap hex?

sins trap?

what about wizz's tu? At 52 I can tu everything in Bdd pretty successfully!

do you want all this changed aswell?

No because none of them affect pvp.

I did make a post about LR being a bit OP in terms of a tank becoming crowd control instead of a tank but that thread did not see much support.

 

[evilwomann]

There's not much diff at all between sword Oma's and brown frogs! No1 moans about frogs?!?
! They are so slow there no way a person should get caught by them!, most of the time they wonder round try to catch people up and then end up attacking mobs....

Wizz zz should be able to tame 5 of them!

 

[Razarus]

There's not much diff at all between sword Oma's and brown frogs! No1 moans about frogs?!?
! They are so slow there no way a person should get caught by them!, most of the time they wonder round try to catch people up and then end up attacking mobs....

Wizz zz should be able to tame 5 of them!

if there is not much difference perhaps you should tame 1 sword oma and 4 frogs?
I do however find that sword omas hit harder than frogs. I have not experienced level 7 omas though but can only imagine they are stronger still.

you are using the term should based on a game that is not this game and although the staff have said on many occasions that they like to keep things official and like euro they also change a lot of things to fit more suitably in today's game therefore there is no "should" with any reference other than opinion.

 

[Varaka]

Poison does not get better with each level. if at level 52 poison started to tick at 300hp per second (that of what 5 level 7 sword omas could do) then i would also suggest that changes..
It does not get stronger with levels though, so again i think my point still stands.



Sarcasm is not the best way to contest someones opinion, I understand that wizards are pet tamers this has not been up for debate, its the pets that are available that we are discussing and the potential for complete imbalance.
please step aside from being a wizard for this debate and look at the whole picture.

do you think 5 level 7 sword omas with blizz and met on almost constant cast is a balanced class?

I don't because its the reward for all them time greed lvling and missing out on other fun aspects of the game.

sword omas are slow and do not have masters targets, Blizz roots you to the ground and you get a 2/3 second warning before it lands ( shadow step / " that's skill that stop you getting flinched and back stab, yes I know this is not ingame ? or decoy and arrow barrage or Dash, TDB , FS? or green poison and RT?). Met no idea yet.

 

[Razarus]

I don't because its the reward for all them time greed lvling and missing out on other fun aspects of the game.

I will respect your opinion.
I disagree on the points already raised but appreciate everyone sees things differently.

Its in the hands of the team now and what direction they wish to take.

 

[evilwomann]

Ok so you would rather fight 5 lvl7 blue frogs? I think not.....

 

[Razarus]

Ok so you would rather fight 5 lvl7 blue frogs? I think not.....

I would in fact, The benefit is that they move out of the way. You also require less agility or AC to dodge their attacks than that of a sword oma.

 

[evilwomann]

Lol but as soon as I hit you your constantly flinched and cnt get away appart from rting......

Explain to me how 5 sword Oma's could all hit you the same time? I can't see that happening....

 

[NorthStar]

Lol but as soon as I hit you your constantly flinched and cnt get away appart from rting......

Explain to me how 5 sword Oma's could all hit you the same time? I can't see that happening....

Sword Omas/Axe Omas were limited to only one pet for the obvious reasons. Its a massive damage dealer at lvl 7. Means you can level at 52+ with a bit more oomph. Hence why the Winged Omas and Crossbow
Omas can not be tamed. They are OP at lvl 7. They will do stupid amounts of damage and also run away from what is hitting it.

Don't get greedy EW, i'm a wiz and I would not like this addition (I do plan on getting 55+).

The whole downside to wizys pets is the risk factor, you put in at least 1 hour taming and lvling some pets for someone to potentially come 1/2 hit you / lag out.

Reduce pet benefits and add features like pets don't die when you log, are sent to storage or something.

Lion roar is completely OP on here.. 7x7 range..! what's that all about. Shadow step, what's that all about... plenty of ways to merk a wiz on here..

 

[HarryH]

Shadow step was OP when no wizards had mirroring or blizzard/met, now you're lucky if it works due to flinch. Once you're next to them they'll be moved again before their shield drops

 

[evilwomann]

After lvling 1 sword Oma to lvl7 I don't no why every1 is moaning about damage! It's not that great! Cs does double the damage of a sword Oma.....

Tis abit daft it you can only take 1 sword Oma it's completey pointless

 

[Razarus]

Haha EW2 if you hit anyone with or without pets they are done for.
What damage do they deal at lvl 7?

 

[owen252]

EvilWoman2 has put the graft in to get to level 52 and should reap the benefits imo, SwordOmas aren't a sub so should be allowed 5. SwordOmas would only be much use PVE, PVP it has to be blue frogs every time.

 

[Violet9]

I thought pets were only capped to 1 when it's a sub boss or spec pet

etc frost tiger
healer ant
k haz
cs

sword Oma's are like any other mob, Brwn frogs, blue frogs, venom spiders, all of which a wizz can tame 5

sword Oma's have always been tamabale at 52...

You're right. Wizards always knew what to expect with normal mobs: you could either tame max 5 of them if they were living, or TU them if they were undead. There were no mobs that wiz could not tame nor TU if his lvl is high enough for them. All omas in PB were living and were tamable as normal pets, that means 5 of each. The winged and crossbows don't attack constantly, therefore they are really crappy pets. All classes could use their spells at high lvl, not just the wiz.

To EvilWoman: Mate, you seem to be going through what me and WildGirl went on Ace. The more you'll lvl, the more OP you'll be considered and they will always compare you in pvp with the average level player with an average kit. Some ppl seem to forget what lvling means and how hard it is to get it done, how much time and patience you invest. I hope you won't be cut off like we were bk on Ace, from what you deserve: to use your skills on normal mobs, even of high lvl if you're high enough.

I hope things will be fair for you EW and for all the levelers, for all the effort and dedication you've put in so much lvling and I hope the Ace history won't repeat itself for all endgame high lvls because you're the ones that are spending the most time and effort into this game.

 

[Razarus]

Violet, I thinks its important that you take into account that other servers are not this server, other servers have been unbalanced, they have crashed, burned and closed.

Just because some players biked or not can out level everyone else should not mean that the rest of the server MAJORITY get played out of the game every time one of these turn up due to imbalance.

A level should have benefits for leveling but should maintain balance.
Stronger yes but overpowered no. its a fine balance and currently weighing slightly the wrong way imo.

 

[KylerStern]

I don't understand why you would query 5 sword omas?
a 52 war will just lion roar them... so many ways to combat these at lower levels, particularly my best friend the RT..

If it was a DarkDevil yeah start a thread but a level 33 hunting ground mob...
I'm a sin without any of the top end skills and still find fighting wizzies easy enough, get some slow on your kit and they will rt the second you ground them.
Job done!

 

[Fleshwerk]

As this is not euro, but similar, you could only tame 1 pb Oma, your rewards of leveling is being able to wear those higher level items, such as 50 rings/51 braces/52 necklaces. Allowing you also to achieve those higher skills. This has always been the case of leveling. Whether your 22 or 52.
It's your choice to level constant, while others chose to hunt bosses/ talk in town. Server accommodates the majority, not individuals.
Lion roar is too big, should be 5x5.
Bliz/met strike require A bigger cool down , apart from that, they are spot on, high damage dealers.

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Also, archers/ taoists need an escape skill, e.g sins have shadow step, warriors have shoulder dash, wizards have teleport.
They will be the ones most effected by these high damage dealers,
Especially when some good pvp wizards have them both. Only 2 people I know who have one of them that are good in pvp would be adeaphon and mordor, they know how to "throw" and think ahead with their attacks.

 

[bayya]

Got to be some benefits to out leveling everyone else, no?

WHy?
outlevelling can be done
by multi players on one char
by spending irl cash on exp pots
by spending irl cash on levelling services
by directing minions if you have them kids to do it for you
all of the above
and then sell the char to someone who cba to play unless they in the front runners. (level wise anyway)

I like the idea that you cant tame anything after 49. Say until 75%of the active players are all 49 as well. Looool