Bruteforce phone pin

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Does anybody know of trusted and working ways to do this? My company uses soti/mobi control to manager our mobile devices which disables a lot of features. If a user forgets their pin and restarts the phone the phone becomes a brick and we have no way of getting it formatted or anything.

If we could bruteforce the pin, we could save alot of money.

Any suggestions please?
 

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It depends on the phone's OS version if you are trying to brute force any Apple device, Good luck.

I was arrested a long time ago (I didn't do anything wrong) and the police took my phone, I made it very clear to them when they took it that they won't be able to bypass the 6-digit pin and they failed to do so.
It's also worth noting that there was a case a few years back where the FBI contacted Apple as they were trying to access someone's phone and Apple themselves said "We can not bypass the pin in any way, If we put a backdoor in for us to get access then what is there to stop hackers using the same backdoor"

3u Tools might be able to help you. It's a bit of software I use to look at more info about my phone and Its components.
 

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Does anybody know of trusted and working ways to do this? My company uses soti/mobi control to manager our mobile devices which disables a lot of features. If a user forgets their pin and restarts the phone the phone becomes a brick and we have no way of getting it formatted or anything.

If we could bruteforce the pin, we could save alot of money.

Any suggestions please?
There's no remote wipe option?
They might want to look into a better MDM Solution.
 

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Does anybody know of trusted and working ways to do this? My company uses soti/mobi control to manager our mobile devices which disables a lot of features. If a user forgets their pin and restarts the phone the phone becomes a brick and we have no way of getting it formatted or anything.

If we could bruteforce the pin, we could save alot of money.

Any suggestions please?
That's wild why not speak to the MDM company about this?
 

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For our Ipads/Iphones we use iOS Device management profiles and microsoft company portal. Then the iOS accounts are your own so if you forget you can always just reset it.
Not really any monitoring used its just to access company applications and for decryption.
 

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There's no remote wipe option?
They might want to look into a better MDM Solution.
The issue is, once the phone is turned off, it needs to be unlocked for the application to be boot up and be able to connect.
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I think we are going to somewhere else to be honest called intune or something
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That's wild why not speak to the MDM company about this?
We did and so have other companies. I'm not part of the team who deals with the 3rd party tool we use. Just trying to figure out how we can unbrick the hundreds of phones we currently have lol
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For our Ipads/Iphones we use iOS Device management profiles and microsoft company portal. Then the iOS accounts are your own so if you forget you can always just reset it.
Not really any monitoring used its just to access company applications and for decryption.
Yeah i remember looking in to this but for some reason which i can't remember, it wasn't a viable option. We use mainly android, maybe that's why.
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It depends on the phone's OS version if you are trying to brute force any Apple device, Good luck.

I was arrested a long time ago (I didn't do anything wrong) and the police took my phone, I made it very clear to them when they took it that they won't be able to bypass the 6-digit pin and they failed to do so.
It's also worth noting that there was a case a few years back where the FBI contacted Apple as they were trying to access someone's phone and Apple themselves said "We can not bypass the pin in any way, If we put a backdoor in for us to get access then what is there to stop hackers using the same backdoor"

3u Tools might be able to help you. It's a bit of software I use to look at more info about my phone and Its components.
Its purely for android. We don't really use iphones
 
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Where I work used to have iphones and now we are on motorola.

If the PIN is entered incorrect too many times, the device automatically wipes.

Sounds like an interesting method. Maybe you should get into Security.
 

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Where I work used to have iphones and now we are on motorola.

If the PIN is entered incorrect too many times, the device automatically wipes.

Sounds like an interesting method. Maybe you should get into Security.
We can't have auto wipe or even wipe enabled/possible from the lock screen etc to avoid drivers from potentially stealing the phones. Once it is unenrolled from our tool via a wipe we can no longer track it or know who it was with in the first place. Many things I would change but yeah.. I'm not part of the team
 

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How about buying some cheap older phones that would still work just fine for what they are supposed to be used? Every crimi film talks about so called burner phones, those you buy in a bulk at a corner shop and throw them away after each use? It would come even cheaper since you wouldn't be throwing them away.

What you need is phones that pple wouldn't care about stealing them because they wouldn't have gazillions of features on them like a desktop computer. I still have some ten or more years old nokia phone that has buttons and display you can cover with your thumb and for calling it still does the job just fine.
 

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The issue is, once the phone is turned off, it needs to be unlocked for the application to be boot up and be able to connect.
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I think we are going to somewhere else to be honest called intune or something
Post automatically merged:


We did and so have other companies. I'm not part of the team who deals with the 3rd party tool we use. Just trying to figure out how we can unbrick the hundreds of phones we currently have lol
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Yeah i remember looking in to this but for some reason which i can't remember, it wasn't a viable option. We use mainly android, maybe that's why.
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Its purely for android. We don't really use iphones
Sounds like a shoddy piece of software to me.
Loads on the market, if you use O365 already for email, teams etc then it might be worth looking into Intune.

Happy for you to PM me if you want, I can get some of our experts on a call with you/your peers.
 

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The issue is, once the phone is turned off, it needs to be unlocked for the application to be boot up and be able to connect.
Post automatically merged:


I think we are going to somewhere else to be honest called intune or something
Post automatically merged:


We did and so have other companies. I'm not part of the team who deals with the 3rd party tool we use. Just trying to figure out how we can unbrick the hundreds of phones we currently have lol
Post automatically merged:


Yeah i remember looking in to this but for some reason which i can't remember, it wasn't a viable option. We use mainly android, maybe that's why.
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Its purely for android. We don't really use iphones
Yeah intune is the microsoft solution we use for software distribution it works great
 
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Sounds like a shoddy piece of software to me.
Loads on the market, if you use O365 already for email, teams etc then it might be worth looking into Intune.

Happy for you to PM me if you want, I can get some of our experts on a call with you/your peers.
Yeah intune is best for managing those type of issues.

Last time I worked with intune, I think for Iphones when you reset password it would wipe the phone as well If the user tried too many times the wrong passcode.
 

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Sounds like a shoddy piece of software to me.
Loads on the market, if you use O365 already for email, teams etc then it might be worth looking into Intune.

Happy for you to PM me if you want, I can get some of our experts on a call with you/your peers.
We're getting intune setup as we speak. Fortunately we've got quite a big testing opportunity as well for it as we are opening a branch up in Portugal and can load the hardware operating system remotely
 

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We're getting intune setup as we speak. Fortunately we've got quite a big testing opportunity as well for it as we are opening a branch up in Portugal and can load the hardware operating system remotely
Remember when that was started at where I work.

Gone are the days where you send an unlock command to a user's Windows phone.
 

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