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Hab

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What servers did you run in the 2000’s ? We’re still waiting for you to answer
Back when 30 was a big usercount, Torozor, Crusade and Tatsunuko V1.
Also played a part in the running of a few others and big releases when I had access to Tom27 my Praktica Account.
Forgot the details for both of those though.

I did have another account on here from around 2002/2003 when Euro was still around but it was a first account.
 
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Back when 30 was a big usercount, Torozor, Crusade and Tatsunuko V1.
Also played a part in the running of a few others and big releases when I had access to Tom27 my Praktica Account.
Forgot the details for both of those though.

I did have another account on here from around 2002/2003 when Euro was still around but it was a first account.

30 was a good user count for a guild not for a server buddy
 

Hab

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30 was a good user count for a guild not for a server buddy
Haha, I can only ever remember Project69 and OldSkool ever hitting it big with the usercount's hitting over 50-100.
I think what's lacking these days is English coders and designers. It's all 3Gena & TheOnlyOne releasing the best atm.

We need to get caught up before Mir3 takes over lol.
 

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Haha, I can only ever remember Project69 and OldSkool ever hitting it big with the usercount's hitting over 50-100.
I think what's lacking these days is English coders and designers. It's all 3Gena & TheOnlyOne releasing the best atm.

We need to get caught up before Mir3 takes over lol.
unsure what anyones nationality has to do with there ability to create a server?
 
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just ask what the people want and give it to them, people love different servers some love high rates like amargeddon some love med like hurricane/arcane some love low like elite mir/acemir

no point saying ah i wont get this many people, hurricane only had minimal usercount but then he gained it since he knows what people want

also mir 3 genuine for pve players lol, the Pk style on there is not great at all
 

Hab

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unsure what anyones nationality has to do with there ability to create a server?
Well if you look there's only really 3gena and theonlyone with a decent set of coded "ready" crystal files with all the new works & extra code.
Then you look here, we have P69 & Arcadia that's done to an exceptional standard.

It's about time we all started sharing & getting caught up. It's 2026.
 

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Back when 30 was a big usercount, Torozor, Crusade and Tatsunuko V1.
Also played a part in the running of a few others and big releases when I had access to Tom27 my Praktica Account.
Forgot the details for both of those though.

I did have another account on here from around 2002/2003 when Euro was still around but it was a first account.
Aaron did have access to this account for a while and ran some servers through it - I changed the password on coming back to LOMCN sometime in the 2010's.

Good luck with the server, though I think the turn around and bring forward are a faux-pas. It seems as though you may have been working on these files whilst your other server was live, despite having a substantive gameshop. I would be frustrated as a user of Tatasunuko and extremely cautious about investing money and time in this new project as a player.

My advice to you Aaron is to take some time away, build something meaningful and try to establish some good grace within this very small community otherwise I fear for the success of this project.
 
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Well if you look there's only really 3gena and theonlyone with a decent set of coded "ready" crystal files with all the new works & extra code.
Then you look here, we have P69 & Arcadia that's done to an exceptional standard.

It's about time we all started sharing & getting caught up. It's 2026.
why? dont get me wrong id be happy if they shared but english or not nobody shares there personal files and why should they? to save you some money or real work? i mean 3gena, Hurrice, Scorp and every other server creator been grafting and honing there files for years, why would they release them for someone to make a terrible cash cow out of? and what has there nationality got to do with anything? or have you just outed yourself as abit of a racist aswell?
 
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Hab

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Aaron did have access to this account for a while and ran some servers through it - I changed the password on coming back to LOMCN sometime in the 2010's.

Good luck with the server, though I think the turn around and bring forward are a faux-pas. It seems as though you may have been working on these files whilst your other server was live, despite having a substantive gameshop. I would be frustrated as a user of Tatasunuko and extremely cautious about investing money and time in this new project as a player.

My advice to you Aaron is to take some time away, build something meaningful and try to establish some good grace within this very small community otherwise I fear for the success of this project.
Hey Tom, It's good to hear you're back around mate! :)
I appreciate your support and advice from a player point of view, we did make a lot of mistakes with Tatsunuko.
Should I feel that the server is still not ready by April 1st I will push the date back, but I'm feeling confident that with the content coming
in the coming days, and with the fixes that will be completed involving the fixing gems & UI interface completion - We will be strong enough
to keep players happy whilst I fill the town up with quests lol.

The decision has been made not to add the PVP/PVE screen and just continue with the rares for balance reasons / learning curve.

We do still remain in BETA until further notice, feel free to log in and play by downloading the client and mir2test.ini for the remaining 2 weeks.
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why? dont get me wrong id be happy if they shared but english or not nobody shares there personal files and why should they? to save you some money or real work? i mean 3gena, Hurrice, Scorp and every other server creator been grafting and honing there files for years, why would they release them for someone to make a terrible cash cow out of? and what has there nationality got to do with anything? or have you just outed yourself as abit of a racist aswell?
If you're throwing the racist card, honestly, just hit the high road...

In terms of the files, yes, keep a personal set.
But when I've got VIP Members requesting set's of files from me, and looking at how old the updates are, with no coders actively working on a release it's becoming a 9 month - 1 year job to actually get the files to a decent working standard because of a million and one bugs (aside from server work).

I mean, when I ran Tatsunuko we were looking at a £750 bill to code in something to allow us to have more spawns on the server.
It's absolutely extortionate pricing unless you can code but it wasn't like this pre 2020's.

In the reality of things you need ALOT of spare time to actually make a server.
I'm not a working man and I'm permanently on PIP for my disabilities, so being at home all the time I just tend to invest
absolutely every penny into what project i'm working on. Obviously code work has been carried over from Tatsunuko, so it's not 100%
completely made from scratch again, but the Caves, the Monsters, the Spawns and the Items are all completely new.
I personally work every single day on the server, morning until night some days if I can help it; so it's not as if the files themselves
aren't actually being worked on for 10 months of my life. Then we've got our coder who also puts absolutely shed loads of hours
into fixing bugs, and adding cool new interfaces and different code pieces just to even catch us up to date with the competition out
there already which is a hell of a lot to actually invest time in alone, let alone money.

Like, I'm not out there to attack anybody lol, i'm just finding myself needing to defend myself on every single post with people
attacking my server and yet i'm the one with a shiddy attitude, or being made out to be some kind of prick?

Honestly, trolls... But life goes on.
I'm just hoping this time round I've spent a wise 500 hours changing over from HighRate to LowRate.

UPDATE
GemRefinery, OrbRefinery and SuperRefinery all now fully functionable.
 
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its funny because i simply asked if thats what you where doing because you brought race into it to begin with as if being an English server dev made you special because alot of server owners arent english? your logic and ignorance of your own words is beyond belief paying a coder isnt anything new or amazing literally 90% of server owners started in the same place because most of us do not have a coding background and i mean this in the nicest way possible but you have years of code work and effort before you are even in the competition, plus your attitude and responses again is why people think your a pleb lol
 
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Hab

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its funny because i simply asked if thats what you where doing because you brought race into it to begin with as if being an English server dev made you special because alot of server owners arent english? your logic and ignorance of your own words is beyond belief paying a coder isnt anything new or amazing literally 90% of server owners started in the same place because most of us do not have a coding background and i mean this in the nicest way possible but you have years of code work and effort before you are even in the competition, plus your attitude and responses again is why people think your a pleb lol
More bullshit, moral of the story is i'm not 3gena and arabs are rip off c4nts anyway.
That's why the English have no decent code, because you shouldn't trust any egyptian sale, word has it.
 

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Hab has nobody introduced you to AI? A lot of work done on servers today are being done with AI tools, not dm’ing any a random coder. £1000’s spent when Claude or even ChatGPT (Free version) could have fixed most of that for you if you simply asked it to.
The problem you have is you expected the lomcn team to fix every bug in the base files for free.
Jev and many others have done a lot for the base files but why would anyone in today’s climate fix everything for free to get no gratitude.
I will rate you for trying and it seems you just keep trying no matter what but your server is just basic atm.
Think of it like this, It’s like you’ve opened up Alton Towers and yet we’ve all been Alton Towers since 2001. try to think of some new rides and fun to add to your server to make its Habs Towers. Somewhere I’m excited to go and try.

Don’t give up because the Mir community does need variety
 
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More bullshit, moral of the story is i'm not 3gena and arabs are rip off c4nts anyway.
That's why the English have no decent code, because you shouldn't trust any egyptian sale, word has it.
They started with the same code you did whats there nationality got to do with it? just sounds like your a bitter little racist, What about the english owners? they dont share any of there updates either are you going to send hate on them the same? so from what i can gather is the only BS here is anything you come out with lol a shame really but i assure you the only reason nobody wants a part of you or your server is solely based off of your own behaviour lol gl either way
 

Hab

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Hab has nobody introduced you to AI? A lot of work done on servers today are being done with AI tools, not dm’ing any a random coder. £1000’s spent when Claude or even ChatGPT (Free version) could have fixed most of that for you if you simply asked it to.
The problem you have is you expected the lomcn team to fix every bug in the base files for free.
Jev and many others have done a lot for the base files but why would anyone in today’s climate fix everything for free to get no gratitude.
I will rate you for trying and it seems you just keep trying no matter what but your server is just basic atm.
Think of it like this, It’s like you’ve opened up Alton Towers and yet we’ve all been Alton Towers since 2001. try to think of some new rides and fun to add to your server to make its Habs Towers. Somewhere I’m excited to go and try.

Don’t give up because the Mir community does need variety
I don't get why you all think we've got no content lol.
Let me list you some new things we have, we are not just euro lol.

We have a full new interface including the dialogs (Just waiting on these)
Includes all the new slots on the F10 screen.

A new style town with new moving object, opening up a whole new system intended for new style mining, and mines to match (as above update).
A crafting area, where you can dismantle items, and upgrade gems or orbs, or add 1-3 stats.
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We have Mir3 skills i,e SummonSkeleton, Jinsu's, MassBeacon, Blue FireWall, Blink, BladeStorm and a few others (way more to come here).
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You get an introduction kit, and basic kits are easy dropping from the floor. Simply kill Subs/Bosses for the nicer rares (3 rare sets per 5 levels).
Heroes Quest - Offering 31 quests with various prize rewards.
Subs don't just drop items, they drop Experience Coins.
Bosses drop GameGold.
Name changing colours.
Cracked Gems/Orbs.

This is just a short list of what's on the top of my mind, we are completely fun covered until Level 60, to which Rebirth 1 will kick in that unlocks
pets, towns, special repairs and many other low ratey kind of NPC's and perks (Buffs) maybe in the future?
 
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I keep hearing a lot of Crystal is a buggy mess but I can’t seem to find any bug reports opened on here or GitHub for them to be fixed. (by you) Or even PR’s with the fixes you claimed to of made.

Strange that.
 
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Hab

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I'm certainly not the only person to moan about these files.
Obviously I appreciate the release. Unfortunately they're not even up to a fully scriptable NPC standard which is shameful to any standard.
As for GitHub, I'm not a coder so I wouldn't necessarily visit or know how to function a website like that.
You know I pay coders, why is your comment relevant to this post @Jev?

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Stage 5 ParalysisRings & ProtectionRings added to the game, also available to upgrade.
New RedMoonChip (Lower Level Option) added to the GameShop + Drops.
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I'm certainly not the only person to moan about these files.
Obviously I appreciate the release. Unfortunately they're not even up to a fully scriptable NPC standard which is shameful to any standard.
As for GitHub, I'm not a coder so I wouldn't necessarily visit or know how to function a website like that.
You know I pay coders, why is your comment relevant to this post @Jev?

Small Update:
Stage 5 ParalysisRings & ProtectionRings added to the game, also available to upgrade.
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What NPC scripting issues are there?

You don’t need to be a coder to see a feature in a game not working as intended. You also don’t need to be a coder to record a bug report on GitHub 😂

All I’m hearing is excuses as to why you can sit here and moan whilst at the same time, sitting on your hands at any opportunity to help the wider community.

Leach
 

Hab

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What NPC scripting issues are there?

You don’t need to be a coder to see a feature in a game not working as intended. You also don’t need to be a coder to record a bug report on GitHub 😂

All I’m hearing is excuses as to why you can sit here and moan whilst at the same time, sitting on your hands at any opportunity to help the wider community.

Leach
Not a leach, idiot. For even starting with these basic set of files. Luckily 10 months has fared well.
NPC scripting issues? Let's start with the greed of not adding simple things like namecolour and titles. Laziness for not even just 1 of them.
There's never been any NPC errors come through an M2 or any exe until the Crystal Files turned up i,e the awakening it comes with.
But heres a few: Sabuk script i,e commissions, TrustMerchant, GTMerchant, Inability to use DAY TIME correctly because of MIN and HOUR.

Like, I'm not here to list. I'd be throwing buckets for days.
These things are CLEAN in the 2.3 files, it's a real shame nobody continued with those.
 
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