Cruel Dragon and KingNF

[Quad4U]

Before people start rushing off ad thining of opening a public server using the above, let me explain the problems your going to face from the outset...

KingNF
The 10 User version is Virus Free and works, Pufication Spell works as does Health Liquor (ALL). The mobs get Less XP as you get so many levels above them as you would expect. Mining, they have coded it so that no ammount of AFK mining will get you a single bit of ORE, only way to mine is to move every minute to a differnet spot.

As soon as you put on a crack - it will not show up as a Virus, run it local only or few people on and again, no virus will come about. The Second you get XX people on (25 i think is the number) - then it Injects (or tries to) a Net.Thief Trojan. The Virus checker (if you have a decent one) will stop ALL net Acces and thus server will be offline.

Also - Elemental Sup will NOT Bless Holy or Dark at all

Conclusion - in the current state of the files for King - pointless trying to run a Live Server.

Cruel Dragon 1.11 / 2.54 etc

This works Unlimited user logins BUT the follwoing will NOT work as per the plan:

Elemental Sup will not bless Holy or Dark
Purification does effect only - spell does not work
HealthLiquor (ALL except Small) will not work
Rares will start to drop 1/1 for no reason - fix one, another starts dropping.

Version 2.54 - although the server will not crash as such - after so long people will not be able to log in etc - only solution is to reboot server until it dies again.

Conclusion : Although sort of workable to a degree - in its current state its not mega stable or useable for a live server.

My Verdict
Local Testing does not show up the problems you will have once you try and bring it live with Lots online - only then will it start to fall apart. In there current state - these files dont lend themself to a large user count server - people will complain bitterly about about just about everything and you have to baby-Sit the server to make sure it does not die - not a good solution tbh.

The Chinese are Out to make money - both KingNF and CruelDragon are trying to make people buy the files, would not be so bad if we could do that but I tried and failed on this account.

I also noticed the sheer lack of Servers online - there is a reason for this as above - maybe time for people to start P2P or make your own server and play local only - who knows tbh..

About time for another MMORPG to play with I feel - Mir3 is a tad ****e

 

[Far]

you know you cant leave mir quad :P.

cheers for that, quite usefull.

pinned with a capital PIN.

 

[TritoN]

or refer to server with JoB server engine which runs almost flawlessly as Olymp does show..and tbh its not that less fun to play on
btw exactly for that reasons stated above Olymp still runs JoB instead of PtW we will upgrade to PtW when a solution to the problems above is found (of course we will keep all user data as usual when serverengine upgraded)

and yes i agree with Quad4U: if u wanna play PtW so much refer to the official UK servers for now

 

[Far]

the mainly things that draw me to ptw is the use of the new interface, 4th horse, all magics, monster AI, and sql management. but yeah, job isnt that outdated really.

 

[TritoN]

yup monster ai and the last missing magics would be the only thing why we looking to upgrade to PtW otherwise JoB offers all LoM has atm
btw u can use new interface on JoB also using lovemir or hexed original mir exe (though very buggy still)

 

[suysurikeru]

i think i mite have to give up on my king server for the time being

 

[turboshandy]

CruelDragon3G

These are all fixable as far as i know:

Elemental Sup will not bless Holy or Dark
When you get the database translated you need to have a look at bracket properties they're all messed up:
talisman(AT-S) is darktali
talisman(SA-S) is holytali

Purification does effect only - spell does not work
not tried will have a look and report back

HealthLiquor (ALL except Small) will not work
Again a few sqldb tweaks and jobs a good'n

Rares will start to drop 1/1 for no reason - fix one, another starts dropping.
Again an sql problem, goto raresdata and you have to add items here that match the item names in Your std_items db

 

[Quad4U]

Re: CruelDragon3G

These are all fixable as far as i know:

Elemental Sup will not bless Holy or Dark
When you get the database translated you need to have a look at bracket properties they're all messed up:
talisman(AT-S) is darktali
talisman(SA-S) is holytali

Purification does effect only - spell does not work
not tried will have a look and report back

HealthLiquor (ALL except Small) will not work
Again a few sqldb tweaks and jobs a good'n

Rares will start to drop 1/1 for no reason - fix one, another starts dropping.
Again an sql problem, goto raresdata and you have to add items here that match the item names in Your std_items db

Talisman
Have no idea what crappy db your using but mine is named right - I have tried all variations on a theme and nothing I tried allowed me to Buff Holy or Dark on my Char. Here is how you can check - Give yourself the ES Skill, Arm every single Talisman in your database and try the spell. At the same time have your CHAR Screen up and watch the Numbers at the bottom. When you do Fire etc you will see that your first 4 boxes reflect the Talisman Used, So Fire, Ice and so forth. Now the last two are Dark & Holy. You will find no matter what it is named (as this is irrelevent) it will not Bless them stats. Now another thing for you to try - ES someone else - you will see it now read +36 on there stats. I need you to Provide a Screenshot of Holy or Dark been added to +10....I have tried both KingNF and CD latest - both nothing...

HealthLiquor
If you try the things on KINGNF you will see you can drink it no problems and add the right stats (+hp) - your saying you tweak the values in CD and it works - Yes indeed it does but go over a certain number and no it wont - so in effect its pointless. Might as well have only (S) on there.

RARES
If one person on this planet understand how Rares work, its def me - the problem will not show up until you have a Live server. My RARE DB Fully sorted trust me..

 

[turboshandy]

I'm running a closed beta server atm so I can relate to some of thsoe things, notably I will try test these issues and do screenies for you, If you stick to KingNF ill do CD atleast the db swapping would be easy for migrating to the set that works

Talisman
lol, that crappy db was mine
I didnt want the original names, I am changing things as I go through to make it an alternative type server rather than another mir3 copy (no probs with copies btw, I just like to modify thing:/ )
Either way I'll double check with some things tonight and see what I can find out

HealthLiquor
Didnt realise this, can you tell me the actual values of each, and the max the current files allow. i'll try help sort it

RARES
I'm testing this one out tonight, I was sure that WoomaHorn only drop once per hour, might have been coinsidence.
(BTW i wasn't critisizing your work mate, just sharing my opinion)

 

[Quad4U]

The RARE Item that dropped first was Holy Wand. To semi sort this - I removed the thing from the drop files. Next day Transparency started 1/1

Why do I blame CD for this? Tried king same db etc and no rare drops 1/1 - def 100% CD problem.

As for Talisman - I tried all different Varaiations on a theme like for example making them same as other Talisman mode wise but changing end bit (Talisman Column) to 5 & 6, still nothing. I aksed the chinese about this and I got a Puzzled look (if you know what I mean). Im am pretty sure the chinese would have been going on about this as much as we are if they felt it was a problem.

The databases are interchangable on Both CD and King - you just add King_ to the db and make it King3GBasedata and it works a Treat - so can try both.

Until we find a King that does NOT contain a Virus then you might as well write this version off - and no I am not running a server minus A virus checker as someone requested thats for sure..

 

[Hazuki]

That would be stupid, nice thread I hope people read it .

 

[Quad4U]

If someone wants to do full testing - this is what you need to be doing :

Give yourself all one Spell of each class (say all TAO) then try each spell - it helps at this point to know what they are supposted to do - I never and people told me when it never worked right.

Next make EVERY Single item in the database - does it do what its supposted to do?

Now Spawn all the mobs - you will come across a few that are not there (missing images in WIL file).

But before ALL of this - make sure you have a SpreadSheet which has both Chinese + English so when you start transtalting things you can cross ref them to right mob, item or whatever. If people are in need of this - just ask !!

 

[Hazuki]

Just thinking about the Trojan that gets sent out at 25 users. Does anyone know what port the trojan connects out at? Because what im thinking if we know could/would it be possible to have your firewall block that port, ie stopping the trojan. Theres one problem i can think of, whether the server.exe would close its self if it cant execute the Trojan, just a thought what u guys think?

 

[Quad4U]

Well Kurt I have tested all King Version (10 user upt Unlimited) and any virus checker I have chucks up warning saying *.EPE (cannot remember name) contains the said trojan. Now as it gets stopped in it tracks it is not actually putting a Trojan on your pc - only this file. One I increased the protection to include:

Avast AntiVirus
Microsoft Antispyware
Decent Firewall
Router (had this anyhow)

King now wont run at all on my system as it gets stopped dead by one of the systems in place. You may ask yourself "Maybe KING needs this EPE file to run?" Well Ive not see this been injected by the proper King files (which requires Reg to run more than 10 times) - so I can only assume it is indeed a Trojan.

Lastly then - King Vs CD again:
Turbo Shady *Somehow* has Purification working, maybe it does work and I'm testing it wrong, ive tried all his files and it def don't work on my end thats for sure - so who knows.
You only Loosing the ability to use HealthLiquior (M) - (XL) really and the ini files allows a lot more tweaking on CD the it does on King thats for sure, at least I can tweak CD live where-as King has ot be rebooted for any tweaks to take place.

Personally best to wait till CD gets fully tested at 2.54 version to iron out the bugs - pity they wont give me un-packed version or I could have helped them eh !

 

[Hazuki]

Oh well, just a thought. Can you remeber the name of the regserver? Saying that i think theres one in the King Files, have you tried with that?

 

[XeroX]

mite be a stupid question but.........

couldnt one of the programs / coders here at lomcn try and rip out netthief?