MIR3 JOB server - Not very popular....

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Just really my impression Im getting from various people I have talked to. For a long time people have hoped for New magic, Red Dots on map and all that Jazz, JOB comes out which is not really that far to be honest from the latest with only a few magics missing, new mob magic and all that - yet people are not playing at all???

People who have worked on the files have spent god know how much time and effort to take the files from complete chinese to 99% working along with new skills, maps and mobs.

I look now and then in this section yet hardly any posts at all - compared to the mir2 1.4 section which has a new post on a daily basis !!!

Am i missing something here? Your telling me people preffer to play on a server build around MIR2 1.4 with limited things and maybe 2-6 new skills if your lucky when you have right here in front of you everything that is on mir2 plus a LOAD more in the forum of MIR3 Job??

My guess is basically Euromir3 is free atm - does that mean the second it goes to P2P every cheapskate will flood this forum and start asking for a Free MIR3 Server to play on?? Already a few people have lost interest - Including myself in these Server files - cannot see the point of working my arse off when nobody is interested...

Maybe MIR on the whole is boring and had it day (my thoughts) and time for a new game....Lets see what I can dig up to work on now that mir3 is already dead in the water...
 

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well servers do have players, my server dont have many players as theres a wipe but we have stones, shoes n all that working we have almost got the gift system working if it dont work i have discovered a way to make it work (via npc) and much more so we r hoping for more when we wipe.
 

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Thats the thing Demonic Mir3 has never held the majoritys intrest Even the original files didnt

And i beleive its quite simple Wemade made mir3 to complex Mir2 is just so simple to pick up and play
Whereas in the currently mir3 files u gotta think about elements and the size of maps
Mir3 in korea where losing customers thats why i beleive they made the smaller maps to appeal more to Mir2 fans

Theres also the fact the client is so big Yes people have BB but alot cba to just download it

But tbh even euromir3 doesnt have that many players maybe 300-400 at peak if there lucky and thats spread around on both servers

Mir2 is also alot easier to set up and more customisable wheres mir3 requires sql which from what i see scares alot of people and seems to be hard to code npcs

You need to find a way to appeal to everyone and the only way i see you doing that is making it as simple as possible to setup use and play
 

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Ive disliked mir3 from the second DragonNet went down, as i tried others and they were utter crap! I am yet to try a JoB server, but tbh i wnt play 1 until i see 1 with decent exp! The reason i play prive servers is for the easy lvling, and basically just for fun, as i play EuroMir 2 and i dnt want to have to lvl as hard as that on a prive server!

But i can bet that what u sed will happen, as soon as mir3 goes P2P evry 1 will want prive JoB servers, theres no dought about it!

Another thing that stops ppl from playing mir3 is the massive client, ppl just cba to download it.

I also agree with ur last sentence, but mir as a whole isnt dead, its the private server community that is. The reason no JoB servers r played is because there r only a select few actually up (2 i think =/) ppl need more choice, and a vary in choices! Euromir however is still live and kicking thow imo, the amount of people that play it shows this!

/rant over ;)
 
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many people dislike sql but they dont understand how much more they get out of it, look @ my servers status pages + signiture! Im going to add user levels in the siggie too. Dark you should try out GamerzMir3 (or 2 if u want when its open) exp is yet to be rasied as it wont till we do our wipe but it is in the makings of a good server.
 

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EvilEvil said:
many people dislike sql but they dont understand how much more they get out of it, look @ my servers status pages + signiture! Im going to add user levels in the siggie too. Dark you should try out GamerzMir3 (or 2 if u want when its open) exp is yet to be rasied as it wont till we do our wipe but it is in the makings of a good server.


i might do that mate, set it up tomoz if i cba lol :P
need to lvl on euro, wanna be 35 by christmas ^_^
 

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So if for exmaple a set of servert files where to magicly come about - say Mir2 1.9 - which I may Hasten to add requires MSSQL - I bet you people will be creaming there pant sideway.

Your right though - people for some wierd reason preffer mir2 - yet I happen to know people (inc myself) who hate mir2 as its a step backwards.

My thoughts go like thus:

Before you had no way really to play mir3 apart from on private servers, so people happily played and grabbed clients etc.
ALong came Euromir3 but at the same time along came JOB server - now the prob is that mobs (semi boss and Boss) have not just a simple attack but 3 attacks - both better and worse you see. To take out AquaTaurus for example your going to need more than one person - this is where it gets tricky though - Private servers never had 300+ people online playing and thus a lot of the boss mobs is going to be out of reason unless they get Dumb Down - which is a shame...

So the bottom line then - is people would preffer latest mir2 over latest mir3 - which boggles the mind to say the least but each to there own Im guessing. What is even more mind boggling is mir2 1.4 - correct me if im wrong is missing:

Red dots on maps
Loads of new skills to match proper Server
Mobs that lack any great amount of attacks (MT for example)
Crappy 640x480 with 8 bit colour
Security flaws left, right and centre

To be totally honest here, i wish i could travel back in time, then i would not have wasted god know how long working on a set of files that the "general" public dont want to play....which is why i beleive its time to work on a different game - one that people have never played...
 

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imo the magic stuff isnt much of a problem as you can make that weaker so it dont effect much ect, i believe many people never played mir3 (this was my reason too) because you could never actually find a client link that stayed up.
 

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Just lately we have been getting about 17 or 18 players on at a time at night times which isnt so bad with more joining all the time:)

Yeah the client size is a problem but if ppl only have slow connection we just send them a disc out which solves the problem really.
 

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As EE Been Saying It Will Be Ok Once There Is A Good Server Up Which Is What I Trying To Do With GamerzMiR 3 I Stay Up Most Nights Working On The Files Hopefully It Will Be A Big Hit
 

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yup, and people will finally see how much better we r than those noobs :P
 

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yeah evil evil these noobs LOL that aint been round long :P

but i have to say i have liked mir 3 no matter wot its jsut got a hell of falot better things going for it than mir 2
 

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since introduction of the JoB server system on Olymp the average usercounts doubled to about 50 player online at afternoon/evening constantly increasing

so i dont c any problem with these server
the most common feedback is very good from our playerbase..they love the new system to be honest :)
even many Olymp longterm players who partialy quit playing mir returned and r now enjoying the new server
 
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Maybe I must be speaking to the wrong people then - lol - I just got the impresson from people i spoke to and also by the number of posts on here that either it aint happening or there is really no problems at all with the files thus people not posting...

At least I got the section chatting again which is good, even if im not working on the files myself, I do of course keep my eyes open to aid whoever with more stuff to keep it fresh. Visio (chinese dude) says he will work on the rest of the spells soon so i expext the remaining 7 spells to be added in a month or so.
 

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ye except the translations these server is running very well though it is quite tricky to get it up n running at first..maybe thatswhy not so many chatting in server help now...

again: in comparison with any older mir system JoB is a major step forward and is putting mir3 into the top 5 of these kind of MMORPG's currently available (wemade did an outstanding job to be honest)
 

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job servers are def the best files to get you can do anything with them (and i mean anything) i even got stones going :) but where npc's allow to read from other txt files and from sql it opens it up to anything all you need to do is no how to do it and have the ideas :)
 

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You are talking about the Euro server but don't forget a USA server has opened in beta also. I have been watching and I really feel when these servers go PTP people will come back to the free servers.
Right or wrong that’s the way it is, most people have at least tried the free servers. I gave the people playing on my server the links and encouraged them to try the NEW servers. I got a unanimous response back that the new servers were too limited and they liked the job server better. Just to set the record straight I try to run my server as close to real as I can get, so these people don't get anything they don't work for. The exp is normal with the exception of events. But there is some kind of event every day randomly, IE- increases in one or more of the four (exp, mobs, items or gold)

Its just my opinion but I really feel the drop in interest in the files has been because of the free (at the moment) choice of servers people have to play now, I just feel most of the people that play mir3 private servers are trying the free mir3 servers now. They want to see what wemade intended the servers to be like.
 

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buzznett said:
You are talking about the Euro server but don't forget a USA server has opened in beta also. I have been watching and I really feel when these servers go PTP people will come back to the free servers.
Right or wrong that’s the way it is, most people have at least tried the free servers. I gave the people playing on my server the links and encouraged them to try the NEW servers. I got a unanimous response back that the new servers were too limited and they liked the job server better. Just to set the record straight I try to run my server as close to real as I can get, so these people don't get anything they don't work for. The exp is normal with the exception of events. But there is some kind of event every day randomly, IE- increases in one or more of the four (exp, mobs, items or gold)

Its just my opinion but I really feel the drop in interest in the files has been because of the free (at the moment) choice of servers people have to play now, I just feel most of the people that play mir3 private servers are trying the free mir3 servers now. They want to see what wemade intended the servers to be like.

that post there just gave me an idea :)

ta :P