GK/DK - Chronicles Logic

[CitRix]

Think you'll find real problem is one person farming a boss that was never intended to be a solo kill (judging by it's drop rate) which is what I've been saying all day, if Team piped down and stop trying to deflect from this issue this thread would only be 3 pages instead of 12

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[XmakoX]

A view from an outsider this is proper pathetic and obvious what you are trying to achieve. A guild are achieving and you are not. That screen shot proves dk drops amazing? So what's the problem?

 

[Woodiex3]

A view from an outsider this is proper pathetic and obvious what you are trying to achieve. A guild are achieving and you are not. That screen shot proves dk drops amazing? So what's the problem?

1 screen shot does not tell the story.

every boss in game has the chance to super drop its rare.

please please any1 else with amazing DK drops please post em.

id like to see em.

 

[ILovePie:D]

1 screen shot does not tell the story.

every boss in game has the chance to super drop its rare.

please please any1 else with amazing DK drops please post em.

id like to see em.

We have had some nice drops off DK, as have yourself. Clearly you're not going to post up the list of what you have had off there.

 

[knives]

We have had some nice drops off DK, as have yourself. Clearly you're not going to post up the list of what you have had off there.

i got a hp(L) from it

 

[sarafino]

Surely the real issue here isn't that Tori or whoever can solo this boss, but that members of the usercount are now getting so towards the endgame content, they can solo such top tier bosses. The answer wouldn't be to change it. The answer would be to add new content, content that players can't solo, like I'm sure at some point he needed help with this boss, I doubt he solo'd it from whatever level it is to get into Hell?

Also, going on what I've gathered in this thread, DK = 6hr rs? GK 2hr? So that's 3 GK to 1 DK. Law of probability clearly applies here, of course you stand to gain more from GK due being available more often. Items from DK are probably much lower than GK but due to far less being killed there becomes a much lower probability that it'll drop.

I mean, this should be pretty obvious, it's very basic math.

 

[ziiid]

I fail to see how its so bad IF people have managed to solo this boss. Many bosses are and have been "solo able" given the right circumstances and time and effort put in to do it. From what I have heard taos have been able to solo EE and other top tier bosses for a very long time given the space, time and patience to do so. If someone wants to make a dozen runs with pot drops and luring and spending an hour to kill a boss (OKS is doable with enough time and freedom to kill it etc) I don't see what the problem really is. In realty it will be faster and smoother and less risky to kill with a group, this is true for any boss in the game. From what I read on this thread you CAN kill DK with 2 people, but doing it with 4/5 will be alot quicker and carry a lot less risk etc. If while the server isn't busy someone wants to run solo 10 trips up to kill colossus then I applaud the effort to make the kill happen, I don't think that just because something is "possible" that it needs to be changed.

Half of the fun in Mir is to try and figure out HOW to do things, and to get rewards for this seems perfectly reasonable for any boss/leveling zone etc.

 

[Silencer]

Surely the real issue here isn't that Tori or whoever can solo this boss, but that members of the usercount are now getting so towards the endgame content, they can solo such top tier bosses. The answer wouldn't be to change it. The answer would be to add new content, content that players can't solo, like I'm sure at some point he needed help with this boss, I doubt he solo'd it from whatever level it is to get into Hell?

Also, going on what I've gathered in this thread, DK = 6hr rs? GK 2hr? So that's 3 GK to 1 DK. Law of probability clearly applies here, of course you stand to gain more from GK due being available more often. Items from DK are probably much lower than GK but due to far less being killed there becomes a much lower probability that it'll drop.

I mean, this should be pretty obvious, it's very basic math.

I fail to see how its so bad IF people have managed to solo this boss. Many bosses are and have been "solo able" given the right circumstances and time and effort put in to do it. From what I have heard taos have been able to solo EE and other top tier bosses for a very long time given the space, time and patience to do so. If someone wants to make a dozen runs with pot drops and luring and spending an hour to kill a boss (OKS is doable with enough time and freedom to kill it etc) I don't see what the problem really is. In realty it will be faster and smoother and less risky to kill with a group, this is true for any boss in the game. From what I read on this thread you CAN kill DK with 2 people, but doing it with 4/5 will be alot quicker and carry a lot less risk etc. If while the server isn't busy someone wants to run solo 10 trips up to kill colossus then I applaud the effort to make the kill happen, I don't think that just because something is "possible" that it needs to be changed.

Half of the fun in Mir is to try and figure out HOW to do things, and to get rewards for this seems perfectly reasonable for any boss/leveling zone etc.

You've both hit the nail on the head, +1 to you both.

The fact there is no new content yet means people are doing the same thing over and over and over..... this leads to people having to create new ways of trying things to keep it interesting and challenging....

New content please xx

 

[JonShannow]

Kass your bitterness is pathetic mate.

Warlock drops more frequently than DK does, dropping 40 books and high end Gems.

So does MirKing,
But lets be honest you will never get enough items/cash from these bosses MK, GK, EE to buy any of the ultra rares that drop from DK..
Its like EM - if you did get a mir sword , no amount of GK drops will buy that as it will not come up for sale, and if it does a couple of gems and the odd 40 book wont quite cut it.

what you are arguing is silly. Its like going back to month 3 and saying RTZ drop is OP and shouldnt be soloable because it drops a bene and a high grade marble every time.

Its all relative to your current tier. If you think the odd 40 book and a gem is a godly drop then you are not Team tier.

p.s that one DK drop in the screenshot is worth 30 GK drops.

 

[Silencer]

Just actually taken the time to read back through the last few pages.

Firstly - lol Tai, nice Flow Chart.

Secondly - Crazy hasn't been trying to cloud any issue - it looks like Citrix has been flapping since Muh exposed what DK is capable of dropping, I mean - that's probably the best single drop ever on Chronicles, but they want the bosses drops upping!?

Thirdly - Cry harder.

 

[CitRix]

Did you miss the part about Team crying and the DK drops being nerfed? It happened at the same time 50 weaponsststarted dropping from every other boss regularly.

The screenie Kass posted was a one off drop, which was also pre-nerf

One person making 200m a day out of a single boss (not even including what they're getting from Warlock) is stupid and I don't know how anybody can defend it, this bosses drip rate was intended for a group kill, it's too much for a solo boss.

Let me just make it clear, the only reason this boss is soloable is because the two BloodMages that the boss spawns aren't doing their intended jobs, they can be lured away from the boss, which is probably a bug as they're supposed to be event mobs and should return to the boss when they're not in combat and they can also be hidden from using moonlight, which again should not be happening, those mages are there to prevent this boss being soloable, clearly they're not working the way they were supposed to.

 

[MelkorXV]

Did you miss the part about Team crying and the DK drops being nerfed? It happened at the same time 50 weaponsststarted dropping from every other boss regularly.

The screenie Kass posted was a one off drop, which was also pre-nerf

One person making 200m a day out of a single boss (not even including what they're getting from Warlock) is stupid and I don't know how anybody can defend it, this bosses drip rate was intended for a group kill, it's too much for a solo boss.

Let me just make it clear, the only reason this boss is soloable is because the two BloodMages that the boss spawns aren't doing their intended jobs, they can be lured away from the boss, which is probably a bug as they're supposed to be event mobs and should return to the boss when they're not in combat and they can also be hidden from using moonlight, which again should not be happening, those mages are there to prevent this boss being soloable, clearly they're not working the way they were supposed to.

Just as a side note, iNoob (who has been lvling in Hell for a while) has also been telling me that Tori is now leaving a group of Team members blocking the entrance inside hell at peak times to stop anyone interfering with his boss solo'ing.

Leaving a group of players at the start of the map so you can personally kill the boss on your own which should require the whole group - doesn't take a rocket scientist to see something is massively wrong there.

 

[CrazyBear...]

Just as a side note, iNoob (who has been lvling in Hell for a while) has also been telling me that Tori is now leaving a group of Team members blocking the entrance inside hell at peak times to stop anyone interfering with his boss solo'ing

No, we're looking for a nice drop from iNoob and Marduk.

 

[MelkorXV]

No, we're looking for a nice drop from iNoob and Marduk.

Probably shouldn't stack up around the door then seeing as they can both Shadow Step over you guys - at least ToriBlack gets a heads up when he's halfway through 3rd floor though so you're good for something.

 

[CrazyBear...]

Probably shouldn't stack up around the door then seeing as they can both Shadow Step over you guys - at least ToriBlack gets a heads up when he's halfway through 3rd floor though so you're good for something.

How can they shadow step over a blocked door? -.-

 

[ILovePie:D]

Team kill gatekeeper with a group. If there is people blocking a door, theres another group at the boss.

 

[Silencer]

The presumptions people make on Mir have continued to crack me up for a decade.

I mean, this is great stuff, it really is.