Class Balance

[Havok]

Ok so here it is 100% what this server needs imo some people need to man up and agree.

people need to post what Jamie needs to add


my opinion:

Wizz- well rounded class atm yet you would expect wizz to be slightly squish considering the amount of damage then can apply in pvp and pve - currently atm they can tank 90% of damage that is delt to them sins/warriors/taos can hit them and they just do no damage unsure about warriors fw/tdb <FW> seams to have been balanced even now (in my opinion)
Wizz pets- never seem to die can smash bosses yet other classes struggle to do so such as B.L 5 lvl 7 red-frogs can smash it pets may need looking at also getting 3 hit by pets is not fun at all

warriors- Tanks as they always are seems normal but when they can just not move and spam blade avalanche imo dose more damage then tdb and 3 hits sins 2-3 hit tao's unsure about wizz with blade avalanche not seen this as of yet without goign under 50% hp is crazy

Tao's seem strong well rounded class on here but until they get a spamable poison-cloud OP imo when should taos be able to keep up with wizz leveling speed ? if this is the case wars/ sins should gets a spammable leveling skill to make things even right ? surely not. shin/skelly could do with a slight buff or make them have a leveling effect when u gain more sc taht make them stronger

Sins- well were do we start i am sin myself and atm i am considering going tao or warrior i just see no use for a sin on this server atm from what i have experienced i love playing sins but i just cant see how sins are any use on here. moonlight- u need to be higher than the person ur targeting to be any use but we cant even deal enough dps to make a wizz **** himself never-mind a warrior or tao and its a pain to be able to use it in pvp as u have range mobs hitting u. yes i understand swift feet can be seen overpowered as do i myself but its kind of a spell to make sins get into a fight quick as possible and to be able to escape as fast as possible due to the suitability of the class but in overall from my experience sins do not seem to do enough damage



P.S sorry for the spelling and no punctuation

 

[Martyn]

don't see anything wrong with ba, its never going to replace tdb/fs its a use in-between skill..

as for sin.. - I rerolled warrior :P

wiz are killing machines.. level 33 solo'in mass EXP in PB.. its insane :s
tao's although do own, do also kill slower... leveling is so dependant on other classes/group hunts

 

[Havok]

When ita hits over 120+hp ?

 

[Piff1]

Couldn't put it better myself, Got DC 92 on my sin last night with 0-12 Tao buff and my donation buffs up. Still hitting wizards and they stand there laughing at me same with taoist and warrior ( I can damage a warrior a bit though but they out DPS us by far because of no flinch you've added in on the sly again ) ... Wizz lets not go there, 5 pets that we cant even get to to kill because they 1 hit us ( try trap them your dead by time you've trapped one ) Moon light load of ****, worst skill ever work like dog ****.

Warrior can dash the opposite way out of a lure ( thats totally not over powered )

Give us a straight answer Jamie are you going to fix Sin and make them a DPS class in both PVP and PVE or should we re-roll ? Please it's just a joke now we've sank money into your server for nothing. Only Sin that does well in this server is mystic because of her slow and she still gets slapped about if she doesn't slow on her first hit.

P.s why does our Speed+8 feel like 4 and not flinch lock anyone

 

[Martyn]

that's surely got to be a lucky hit, depends on the dc of the warrior I'm sure Jamies made some special formula for it to work,

120 is nothing really, it only seems a lot because of low hp of sins.. if it did 120hp to you, means it does 60 to a wiz probably... 120hp to another warrior.. is well..

the only reason people use it is because there's a delay in some skills, so you might as well get a bit more DPS in

bit more for wiz.. wizards never lose there pets, that is just way over power imo... logging on and ready to fight bosses with any getting pets or anything level 34 with 5 level 7 red frogs can kill bl..

 

[rickeh]

Anyone saying wiz can tank sins is on crack. If a wiz is tanking a sin it's guaranteed he is smashing gins or suns, even with shield up. Without suns/gins wiz dies in 2-3 hits from a sin.

/Adria

 

[deano13]

I said in other threads once the classes even out in levels sins will be useless on here lol, there hp is shocking and dmg isn't exactly great, Iv seen a Tao and war around 33ish take out iwts np, a 33 sin and tao, sin goes splat... anyone just started playing a sin stop and reroll to war... because as it is a war/tao combo on here for bosses is 100% better then a sin/tao. I'm still not convinced that there double slash is even fast enough, doesn't fill like speed8, the animation seems slower compared to other servers imo.

 

[Saskia]

level 34 with 5 level 7 red frogs can kill bl..

My red frog pets couldn't kill BL, even with a tao healing them when I tried.

Also no wiz can tank sins, don't be silly. I don't know about the rest of the stuff said in this thread, because I have only played a wiz.

 

[Piff1]

My red frog pets couldn't kill BL, even with a tao healing them when I tried.

Also no wiz can tank sins, don't be silly. I don't know about the rest of the stuff said in this thread, because I have only played a wiz.

Get yellow's you wont have a problem, you can bounce 2 IWTS with 5 yellow frog spiders without them even getting to any of your pets, any wizz saying the ranged pets from fox aren't op is simply not trying to help balance the server.

 

[O115]

Funny how its always the class you're playing that's under-powered Piff, that's some rotten luck pal.

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Ok so here it is 100% what this server needs imo some people need to man up and agree.

people need to post what Jamie needs to add


my opinion:

Wizz- well rounded class atm yet you would expect wizz to be slightly squish considering the amount of damage then can apply in pvp and pve - currently atm they can tank 90% of damage that is delt to them sins/warriors/taos can hit them and they just do no damage unsure about warriors fw/tdb <FW> seams to have been balanced even now (in my opinion)
Wizz pets- never seem to die can smash bosses yet other classes struggle to do so such as B.L 5 lvl 7 red-frogs can smash it pets may need looking at also getting 3 hit by pets is not fun at all

warriors- Tanks as they always are seems normal but when they can just not move and spam blade avalanche imo dose more damage then tdb and 3 hits sins 2-3 hit tao's unsure about wizz with blade avalanche not seen this as of yet without goign under 50% hp is crazy

Tao's seem strong well rounded class on here but until they get a spamable poison-cloud OP imo when should taos be able to keep up with wizz leveling speed ? if this is the case wars/ sins should gets a spammable leveling skill to make things even right ? surely not. shin/skelly could do with a slight buff or make them have a leveling effect when u gain more sc taht make them stronger

Sins- well were do we start i am sin myself and atm i am considering going tao or warrior i just see no use for a sin on this server atm from what i have experienced i love playing sins but i just cant see how sins are any use on here. moonlight- u need to be higher than the person ur targeting to be any use but we cant even deal enough dps to make a wizz **** himself never-mind a warrior or tao and its a pain to be able to use it in pvp as u have range mobs hitting u. yes i understand swift feet can be seen overpowered as do i myself but its kind of a spell to make sins get into a fight quick as possible and to be able to escape as fast as possible due to the suitability of the class but in overall from my experience sins do not seem to do enough damage



P.S sorry for the spelling and no punctuation

Instead of apologising for not using any punctuation why didn't you.. just use some punctuation? Lol

 

[Merc_Draven]

Anyone saying wiz can tank sins is on crack. If a wiz is tanking a sin it's guaranteed he is smashing gins or suns, even with shield up. Without suns/gins wiz dies in 2-3 hits from a sin.

/Adria

100% - these dudes don't realise that wizzies carry **** ton of suns!!!!

If I know there's a PvP/PK happening I'm carrying 3 rows of the ****

we are not tanky, spamming that Sunnies!!

If there was a sunny cool down then we'd just rt ><, then u get no kills

 

[WelshSteel]

Sins rerolling to warrs because you don't see any point in end game is just lol, sins completely ignore magic shield with every attack and unless wiz has protect charm that wiz has to always step the hell back or pop the sunnies. Once MR 10 is standard on good pvp sins wiz will be looking to teammates for protection because we are completely countered.

 

[zaeem0]

im a sin with lvl42 and i said that change to warr

 

[Shane/Banshee]

play the game things will and are always being added to the game.

jamie is always watching fights etc so he can clearly see what's happening and who is struggling in pvp.


soon as **** gets gemmed properly and other skills are Ingame it will all change again and again, just enjoy it play the class they will all be good.


im sure the new set item will throw up more threads saying this is op or this is not strong enough compared to this.

im sure it would make development of the server a lot better if people actually posted videos of them not dealing enough damage.


videos or your posts are worthless, and just become flame threads.

 

[Saskia]

Get yellow's you wont have a problem, you can bounce 2 IWTS with 5 yellow frog spiders without them even getting to any of your pets, any wizz saying the ranged pets from fox aren't op is simply not trying to help balance the server.

I agree with that. The ranged ones are OP, but he said the red frogs.

 

[Koriban]

Controversial post:

Everythings fine.

 

[Merc_Draven]

Controversial post:

Everythings fine.

But I want to TU to work on players ><


after now having some pvp in the game, these are the lines you'll be shouting

get that sin! - fking hell that flame sword hurt- f_ck off tao - the wiz is laying fw

 

[Piff1]

A wizz sayin everything is fine lul.

 

[Koriban]

lul indeed.

 

[BLaPP]

I regularly see wizzies getting flopped by sins , literally every fight I see wizzies sun like mad against mediocre sins lol , honestly it's embarrassing how much people are crying recently about balance etc , go level get some kit and get some friends that actually know how to play Mir, cos half of you clearly ****ing don't know how to