Read it properly. All classes, not just wiz.
Wiz + warr getting 20mill exp each, thats 40mill exp compared to 12m exp.
I expect wiz to be the highest.... but with nerfing the sins main pvp spell (wraith grip) the gap has got to be tightened.
Assassin Class - After Lv.40
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Read it properly. All classes, not just wiz.
Wiz + warr getting 20mill exp each, thats 40mill exp compared to 12m exp.
I expect wiz to be the highest.... but with nerfing the sins main pvp spell (wraith grip) the gap has got to be tightened.
That lovely argument. Somehow this DEAD MMORPG is the only one where that type of "rule" applies.
Imagine if WeMade accidentally gave Taoisto @kill command. It would look weird to you if someone removed it.
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had voiced my opinion on state of sins before, and having heard shanes reply i can fully see how it makes sense, they really do feel far worse in terms of leveling but that kind of thing should be expected, and yea adv. bloody flower and crit pig aka late game modifiers will really bring sin up to par if not over par with other classes.
however my opinion of what needs to change is on the pvp side of things, the one second potion make one shotting anyone with over-average hp is not as easy as non sins would have you think without hitting a crit. (im a sin myself and even with buffs and vigor i have 990 hp at like lvl 44). As piff mentioned, comboing lotus is hard when our lock down abilitys are lack luster and also fully dependant on being higher level. in order to kill someone u basically have to hope for a crit on a pre-charged sweetbrier otherwise theres no way to stop them gaining back 110+ hp per second whilst walking away. most sins who pvp in a 1v1 situation know just how RNG getting a kill really is with the way potions currently are.
also i can see in my head bout the fact after adv bloody flower and crit 10 pig they come into their own, but the way they are really struggling atm whats to say they wont just be outshined at that level by a warrior with adv potion mastery etc? as in my head the warrior wins out with the benefits of those skills
its quite a majority of sins that have rerolled, and you cant blame people for their decision by saying they just gave up before sins hit their real power spike, when all of the people i know who have rerolled from sin are not regretting their decision in the slightest, and thats in regards to both PvP and PvE. this surely shows at the current state they are lacking?
however my opinion of what needs to change is on the pvp side of things, the one second potion make one shotting anyone with over-average hp is not as easy as non sins would have you think without hitting a crit. (im a sin myself and even with buffs and vigor i have 990 hp at like lvl 44). As piff mentioned, comboing lotus is hard when our lock down abilitys are lack luster and also fully dependant on being higher level. in order to kill someone u basically have to hope for a crit on a pre-charged sweetbrier otherwise theres no way to stop them gaining back 110+ hp per second whilst walking away. most sins who pvp in a 1v1 situation know just how RNG getting a kill really is with the way potions currently are.
also i can see in my head bout the fact after adv bloody flower and crit 10 pig they come into their own, but the way they are really struggling atm whats to say they wont just be outshined at that level by a warrior with adv potion mastery etc? as in my head the warrior wins out with the benefits of those skills
its quite a majority of sins that have rerolled, and you cant blame people for their decision by saying they just gave up before sins hit their real power spike, when all of the people i know who have rerolled from sin are not regretting their decision in the slightest, and thats in regards to both PvP and PvE. this surely shows at the current state they are lacking?
I'm a tao and i dont see why would a snow group need me? do i provide enough value to be taking the free exp? elemental supremacy/1 adv/8ac? is it worth it to take 1/3rd of your exp?about sins i dont see any serius issues. i see wizzies leveling faster than anyone, warriors leveling like crazy if they lure for wizzies. taos and sins seem to be even. i am not gona ask for any nerf, each of these classes is good in something. for wizzies, they level fast, but less dmg on a boss, but have zone control for guild fights.for warriors, good tanks .sins, they are insane pvp honestly, taos supportive.
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hmm why would they bring a tao? taos are the most desired class currently mate not sure what makes you think taos arent desired. pets to help with tanking, mass red poison increasing whole groups kill speed, lifesteal spell giving all melee classes more lifesteal, heals, resurrection when it gets messy.. literally the most reasons to bring a tao to group over any of the other classes. I feel like this was a silly comment bro
Regarding level quickly, I have noticed while watching streams that the higher levels always hunt with a wizard and just lure to fwall and tempest, I can't possibly comment on Assassins but once you start making big nerfs your kinda giving the people who have made the char from day 1 some kind of advantage
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My sin is using a superior bracelet, I can only use the 1 because three equipment slots are taken up with Vigor set which is a 100% need for this class. I haven't seen any superior rings with + crit %.
This brings my crit from 1% to 3%. I realise this will change again come level 10 companion, assuming I can roll a decent crit %
Warriors on the flip side could be wearing 2x bracelets and 1x necklace giving them a crit chance of 7% before getting companion
I dont know what you talking about, i am warrior and in last SW war some SIN gave me 900DMG with 1 hit , he kill me with 1 hit !
Lucky or not , its 1 Shot 1 down!! I am sure i cant kill an SIN with one shot.
Lucky or not , its 1 Shot 1 down!! I am sure i cant kill an SIN with one shot.
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No you probably can't, at least not at this early stage of the game.
But you can't balance the entire game around PvP when the majority of the content is PvE. PvE is leaving Sins a lot to be desired especially since the accuracy of monsters in Goru cave was increased meaning agility kit is now pointless as they never miss.
Never gonna happen, but how cool would this skill be;
Execute
Any mob hit by a sin that goes below a certain % hp, dies instantly.
Level 0
10% HP
Level 1
15% HP
Level 2
20% HP
Level 3
25% HP
Would be purely pve and would not work on subs or bosses. Like a crappy karma.
If only
Execute
Any mob hit by a sin that goes below a certain % hp, dies instantly.
Level 0
10% HP
Level 1
15% HP
Level 2
20% HP
Level 3
25% HP
Would be purely pve and would not work on subs or bosses. Like a crappy karma.
If only
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This brings my crit from 1% to 3%. I realise this will change again come level 10 companion, assuming I can roll a decent crit %
Warriors on the flip side could be wearing 2x bracelets and 1x necklace giving them a crit chance of 7% before getting companion
In reality, very few warriors are able to wear a full crit set whilst levelling.
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Unless if they are with a Tao, but why am I not with a sin.....I see your point ^^
/Libero
I know a couple of people will be more inclined to hunt Banyo if you move the spawns off the doorways...
Pointless spending all the time running when you have a chance of 10 mobs teleporting on your arse the moment you walk in the map. I'm sure it's been mentioned already
Past 2 or 3 reboots, people have tried and died the second they go in because they got screwed by the door spawns....now they don't bother lol. I would also change it for every map, just FYI.
Nvm - its 8 seconds lool.
ok so warrior dps over 8 seconds
120 per hit x 8 as they hit 8 mob a time = 960. 2 Hits per second 1,920 dmg per second. x 8 = 15,360 damage per 8 seconds.
Taoist
160 x 4 enemies 640. Get 2 hits off over 8 seconds with one spell. 640x2 1,280 dmg with using just one of their spells per 6 seconds.
Wizzard
Tempest - hits can range, in snow it averages around 100 per tick. These guys must be smashing over 25k damage in 8 seconds, easily.
Sins
First bloom - 250 dmg, Second bloom 500 dmg, Third Bloom, 550 dmg, Fourth Bloom 600 dmg. 4x Auto hits, 300 dmg. Total of 2,200 dmg per 8 seconds.
I realise that this doesnt really prove anything, but I can see why sins choose to re roll their char. Seems like there is only about 20 of us left on the server
ok so warrior dps over 8 seconds
120 per hit x 8 as they hit 8 mob a time = 960. 2 Hits per second 1,920 dmg per second. x 8 = 15,360 damage per 8 seconds.
Taoist
160 x 4 enemies 640. Get 2 hits off over 8 seconds with one spell. 640x2 1,280 dmg with using just one of their spells per 6 seconds.
Wizzard
Tempest - hits can range, in snow it averages around 100 per tick. These guys must be smashing over 25k damage in 8 seconds, easily.
Sins
First bloom - 250 dmg, Second bloom 500 dmg, Third Bloom, 550 dmg, Fourth Bloom 600 dmg. 4x Auto hits, 300 dmg. Total of 2,200 dmg per 8 seconds.
I realise that this doesnt really prove anything, but I can see why sins choose to re roll their char. Seems like there is only about 20 of us left on the server
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Aye but considering they get 0 dmg done to them its still pretty high .
Tanks lvl quicker than "Dps" Class
Saw Geralt in Goru and he hits 120-150 per normal hit . Take the lower end, 16 hits in 8 seconds at 120 dmg is still 1920 damage single target. Only 300 less than sins. Thats without Bstorm and Fsword (altho he said they hit less than his normal hits).
.Tanks lvl quicker than "Dps" Class
Saw Geralt in Goru and he hits 120-150 per normal hit . Take the lower end, 16 hits in 8 seconds at 120 dmg is still 1920 damage single target. Only 300 less than sins. Thats without Bstorm and Fsword (altho he said they hit less than his normal hits).