Tempest Door Blocking

[WelshSteel]

Mir 2 had firewall but it's not nearly as lethal as Tempest, are we really going to have limited pvp builds to survive tempest spam? Is it a needed strength from Wizard to be able to deny the average player or aggressive builds entry into a room.

Sin 50 dies in 1-2 seconds and as a Tao I would love to CL him but I can't (in other versions I could cast CL on others). Is it really going to be necessary to pig adv+3-5 wind and health 200-300 and prioritize wind adv jewels/MR in pvp?

Please don't be stubborn on this issue, I was part of the marble group killing Oma King on rs and the Boss needed changing to stop it getting almost solo'd by a Wizz (he probably would take a tao for supp).

I'm all for fair competition let's have it please.

 

[WargodSius]

IIRC Jamie did change things around a bit in relation to Door Blocking in Marble. So if it's an actual issue, he should be willing to listen.

 

[Lionsm!ght]

IIRC Jamie did change things around a bit in relation to Door Blocking in Marble. So if it's an actual issue, he should be willing to listen.

From what was shown during the alpha development, jamie has implemented target regions, so when you walk through a door you can land in 1 of x spaces, to prevent a mass of players surrounding 1 spot and shift attacking.

I agree in that, any aoe spell, should disappear from the target region a player can land on after 1 tick. This will still allow people to spam an area near the entrance, but it will give enough room for people to get into the room without being pinged about/insta smashed when they walk in a door.

I dont get the difference in preventing melee blocking a door shift swinging and spamming tempest, its still door blocking. He has prevented the melee door blocking, lets stop the wizz door blocking.

Lets be honest, whoever is first to a kr/floor are doing this technique.

As usual though the poll/thread has come about with a salty side to it, "Wizard needs Tempest door block or what's the point in Wiz?". Remove the salt and i am sure people will be more inclined to have a discussion about it.

 

[WelshSteel]

As usual though the poll/thread has come about with a salty side to it, "Wizard needs Tempest door block or what's the point in Wiz?". Remove the salt and i am sure people will be more inclined to have a discussion about it.

I didn't think it was salt but I get the impression some people only play a class for certain strengths and Wiz's control of an area of entry is one of them. Changes to sub boss timings pissed off a lot of Sins who felt reliant on killing subs for cash as they lack massively in AoE farming.

All i'm looking for is a good answer to open my eyes or a solution, If i'm stupid for my way of thinking I want someone to tell me x and y.

 

[Hastelloy]

Doesn't really bother me as it's always been a thing on a lot of servers. Blocking doors sucks but tempest doesn't 1 shot you and all classes are able to evade it ie a sin can DoS out of it, warriors can dash/interchange (if they are high enough) and taos can blow up their pet and walk out giggling at the carnage.

That said, if it were up to me i would put a 1second timer on the doors as suggested before OR in my honest opinion limit the number of castable Tempests/Fwalls that wiz can do if they arent already limited. Max 5 casts for example? They still get their mass kill benefit from it but 1 wiz wont be able to completely cover a screen

 

[DarkSacred]

Maybe limit KR Tempest / FW casts the same as a Sabuk War? :P

 

[Fleshwerk]

Let's not accept that different classes have different strengths, instead stamp feet heavily and cry alot. Leave wizzys alone they already die in 1 hit to the "tank" class(equal ilvl).

Edit: " Leave wizzys alone they already die in 1 hit through magic shield to the "tank" class(equal ilvl). "

 

[Shane/Banshee]

Let's not accept that different classes have different strengths, instead stamp feet heavily and cry alot. Leave wizzys alone they already die in 1 hit to the "tank" class(equal ilvl).

Edit: " Leave wizzys alone they already die in 1 hit through magic shield to the "tank" class(equal ilvl). "

FYI warriors have 2 roles defence and tanky/ dc and Damage

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Let's not accept that different classes have different strengths, instead stamp feet heavily and cry alot. Leave wizzys alone they already die in 1 hit to the "tank" class(equal ilvl).

Edit: " Leave wizzys alone they already die in 1 hit through magic shield to the "tank" class(equal ilvl). "

FYI warriors have 2 roles defence and tanky/ dc and Damage

 

[Fleshwerk]

FYI warriors have 2 roles defence and tanky/ dc and Damage

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FYI warriors have 2 roles defence and tanky/ dc and Damage

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Please give wiz decent single target if their main spell is continuing to get shat on from a great height

 

[Shane/Banshee]

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Please give wiz decent single target if their main spell is continuing to get shat on from a great height

only nerf your “best skill” has was at Sabuk war.

 

[UnluckyXIII]

Doesn't really bother me as it's always been a thing on a lot of servers. Blocking doors sucks but tempest doesn't 1 shot you and all classes are able to evade it ie a sin can DoS out of it, warriors can dash/interchange (if they are high enough) and taos can blow up their pet and walk out giggling at the carnage.

That said, if it were up to me i would put a 1second timer on the doors as suggested before OR in my honest opinion limit the number of castable Tempests/Fwalls that wiz can do if they arent already limited. Max 5 casts for example? They still get their mass kill benefit from it but 1 wiz wont be able to completely cover a screen

No Sin is going to DoS out of tempest in KR PvP as it results in 6-10 seconds of no potting....

 

[DarkSacred]

No Sin is going to DoS out of tempest in KR PvP as it results in 6-10 seconds of no potting....

6-10? Being generous in some KRs its up to 20 seconds IIRC!