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CremeEgg82

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@CreamEgg you dont need additional escape skills, because we cant use our gap closers 99 % of the time. thats something you forget mentioning... otherwise this wouldnt be such a problem.

Again just reading this from a neutral perspecitve, you want on a range class that can kite already 2 escape skills, a pet, an immunity buff + dmg absorbtion with freezing effect + flinch and push back on tempest, flinch on joh

even reading this makes me cringe. I am sure there is 1-2 skills that can or needs to be revised but surely not what you are asking for...

I don't disagree that the other classes need their skills reviewing as well, it was exactly what I said. All classes should be able to use their utility skills in PvP. I just didn't quote specifics as I don't play those classes, I'd rather leave that to people that are more knowledgeable at those classes.

Just watch any of the Korean PvP on YouTube, you'll see what Mir 3 evolved into long after the closure of official servers.

Plenty of wars and random fights in these channels:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3Huzmb0u_mcrxIo73STrUA
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL3hUWT29t1ZDl-4FU4X3HA

PvP on official is actually fun, even when they have ridiculous stats and all the special rings, necklaces and CHB.
 

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The lack of actual flinch on here hurts range classes so much in terms of PvP.

nothing worse than stopping to cast to defend yourself, and warriors/assassins get closer and closer there is no way of getting away once they catch you your dead 90% of the time.

the server is missing a lot of the core Mir3 functions as CremeEgg pointed out.
 

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Take this warrior skill for example, it is slightly ranged, its a few spaces ahead like swift blade (not quite as far), it knocks players down and silences. There are good mechanics for all the classes, I just don't have first hand experience of all the different ones as I always played wiz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGWZcNEQ_do

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Some decent high level PvP in this one, between a couple of the top guilds (highest players) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gguz9o9IsIY

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The lack of actual flinch on here hurts range classes so much in terms of PvP.
In that last video I posted, watch the warriors using shuriken's to flinch the taos and slow them down so rest of group can catch up. It really works for all classes.
 

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I highly doubt any wizard with mc146 wep can 7 hit an assassin and even there is the majority of wizards with sapphire set have to hit an mele class over 10 hits.

The fact that Shane thinks assassin should be able to outpot a wizard damage shows you how broke this server really is.

I didn’t even bother reading what Amnesia said because we all know he’s an assassin and biased towards his class.

With the increase of health and the effects of comfort, if this tread continues wizard will be practically useless apart from cash hunting

Exactly how many double tick tempest that deal 1800 damage per tick is a sin with 5500hp supposed to take? Then the 1100-1300 meteor showers weaved in...

Less than 7 hits if you crit and are decent at landing tempest.

/fleshwerk 79 wiz
 

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i just got 2 shot by china today only with casting tempest on me...i see he has little bit more lvl and gear over me. But that shouldnt make 1 player to a one man army lol...

@lelouche who are you ingame? If you dont believe what ppl on their main chars tell you, you should maybe come online and try it yourself..
 

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Exactly how many double tick tempest that deal 1800 damage per tick is a sin with 5500hp supposed to take? Then the 1100-1300 meteor showers weaved in...

Less than 7 hits if you crit and are decent at landing tempest.

/fleshwerk 79 wiz

you don't even play wiz anymore shut up you complete ****ing reject....

Sooooo over powered yet still plays assassin uhhhh..
 

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i dont think anyone who plays sin, plays the class for the pvp aspect lol...

if you wanna pvp roll a tao.
 

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i just got 2 shot by china today only with casting tempest on me...i see he has little bit more lvl and gear over me. But that shouldnt make 1 player to a one man army lol...

@lelouche who are you ingame? If you dont believe what ppl on their main chars tell you, you should maybe come online and try it yourself..

2 shot? I'm sorry you need to stop posting such false statments. Slightly better kit and levels he is 3 months of progress in front of you if not more. This is why we don't take much notice of the forums. So many inaccurate posts.

Asheron was hitting me for 700/800 crit tempest with ei 2 wind. He has more MC than China. So I'm not seeing how you can die from 2/hits or steps in tempest. Unless you have EV wind?
 

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2 shot? I'm sorry you need to stop posting such false statments. Slightly better kit and levels he is 3 months of progress in front of you if not more. This is why we don't take much notice of the forums. So many inaccurate posts.

Asheron was hitting me for 700/800 crit tempest with ei 2 wind. He has more MC than China. So I'm not seeing how you can die from 2/hits or steps in tempest. Unless you have EV wind?
This is why I suggested on Discord that you release all the spell data and calculations, allow a community of theorycrafters much like wow has and you'll see a shift in responses from vague guessing and bullshit to actual calculated numbers.

In wow, more fixes and balance changes have come from theorycrafters and tools like simulationcraft than by any other means.
 

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2 shot? I'm sorry you need to stop posting such false statments. Slightly better kit and levels he is 3 months of progress in front of you if not more. This is why we don't take much notice of the forums. So many inaccurate posts.

Asheron was hitting me for 700/800 crit tempest with ei 2 wind. He has more MC than China. So I'm not seeing how you can die from 2/hits or steps in tempest. Unless you have EV wind?

i have no reason to lie lol... i didnt even know myelf how i died thats how fast it was. I d say we should make a little tournament then we can see instead of making "inacurate" statements. Also noone is mentioning the Tao problem and thats very accuarte because i tested it... and had enough experience already :))
 

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i have no reason to lie lol... i didnt even know myelf how i died thats how fast it was. I d say we should make a little tournament then we can see instead of making "inacurate" statements. Also noone is mentioning the Tao problem and thats very accuarte because i tested it... and had enough experience already :))

This is why I stopped reading what you type/say.

You're full of ****. Please just go away.
 

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This is why I stopped reading what you type/say.

You're full of ****. Please just go away.

noone cares about you, so stay off the forum if you have no constructive feedback. So stop spamming the thread and gn8 bb.

@cream sounds good. As long ppl look into stuff and test whats happening... it can only get better. because as for now, it doesnt look like anything has been tested towards pvp..
 

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Is your wep mc146? ^__^ nah

You never mentioned anything about a weapon...

Also, Your comparing all wizzys to one guy who has an OP weapon? cool beans.

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Exactly how many double tick tempest that deal 1800 damage per tick is a sin with 5500hp supposed to take? Then the 1100-1300 meteor showers weaved in...

Less than 7 hits if you crit and are decent at landing tempest.

/fleshwerk 79 wiz

Banter... lets test this 7 hit theory tomorrow, for each time you die in 7 hits or less i'll give you 100m and for 8 hits or more you give me 100m, bring plenty of funds.
 

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You never mentioned anything about a weapon...

Also, Your comparing all wizzys to one guy who has an OP weapon? cool beans.

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Banter... lets test this 7 hit theory tomorrow, for each time you die in 7 hits or less i'll give you 100m and for 8 hits or more you give me 100m, bring plenty of funds.

Get some endgame mc first and then we can try 😊
 

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I'm on the same level as you in a MC to DC ratio , stop talking **** already, i would like to play a balanced server at some point.

Wrong.... my wiz who is in DA set and a dunes staff has more mc than you in the 75 wep and sapphire kit m7.

Edit. And It hasnt been played in around 2/3 weeks..
 

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Wrong.... my wiz who is in DA set and a dunes staff has more mc than you in the 75 wep and sapphire kit m7.

Edit. And It hasnt been played in around 2/3 weeks..

We were talking about assassin vs wizard....

And as for you having more mc than me , congrats?

I'd have more but since the changes been made to doom claw i don't see the point in spending 1000's of frags on a weapon every tom dick and harry has, i'll wait until the next update.
 

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We were talking about assassin vs wizard....

And as for you having more mc than me , congrats?

I'd have more but since the changes been made to doom claw i don't see the point in spending 1000's of frags on a weapon every tom dick and harry has, i'll wait until the next update.

I was meaning that my old tier kitted wiz has more mc than your new tier kitted wiz, so you can probably get into that 7 hit territory with a better roll/mr on your wep.