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[DarkSacred]

because then you completely limit your usercount, some people simply wont donate or subscribe, why would they want to turn away any player at this point with how small the community is??

game shop is simply there to help the server if you feel the need to donate.

Kinda agree with this, without the stability of a licenced server people tend to be unwilling to subscribe like the old days. In fact the MMO market has pretty much shifted away from subs with the exception of WoW and FF14 to name a few.

I would like to see a subscription similar to what Jamie usually offers, 30 day "buff" as a premium option for those who want to pay (in fact Jamie's model of longer lasting buffs that stopped when you logged off / stood in SZ had me sub more money than say chrons where I couldn't justify a couple of £'s for an hour) and everyone who doesn't can play for free and use the dropped GG in game to still get some benefits. Zircon came so close to being my ideal GG experience where you didn't feel like you were being ripped off for the money you spent. It would have been 100% perfect if the pet food and short term buffs were removed and just had a single 30 day buff that costs say £8.99


I think we can all agree it's incredibly tough to create a balanced GG store that everyone can get behind. Nothing worse than a server that promotes a P2W community though.

 

[wumatica]

because then you completely limit your usercount, some people simply wont donate or subscribe, why would they want to turn away any player at this point with how small the community is??

game shop is simply there to help the server if you feel the need to donate.

If we really go back to it's origin than we should limit the gameshop to items that do not even give the slightest of advantage (read: pot that buff your dc/mc/sc, exp or anything like that). Items should just be cosmethic than.

Take WoW gameshop as example

 

[Nyx]

IMO and this probably wouldn't be of major benefit to the server in terms of financials BUT I would offer a three tier subscription service.

Silver
Gold
Platinum

Each would be a "subscription" (doesn't auto renew) each sub would give perks such as % increase on EXP, % increase on gold drop, extra warehouse space etc. Not massive amounts but enough that you would want to subscribe (1.2x, 1.4 and 1.6x exp and gold? 10, 20, 30 extra storage rows at bank?) and remove any and all other GG shop items that offer benefits such as buffs. This doesn;t create some magical fair playing field, but it does prevent someone pouring £500 in to a server and having a massive advantage.

Second to this I would add a selection of cosmetic items to the GG shop, strictly cosmetic though so sex change, hairdresser, armour dye, mount skins (requires you have base mount first).

I likes I would happily pay a sub or a tiered sub. How would you draw up prices though? £8.99? £12.99? £16.99?


All said and done its just a game so if someone getting ahead because they want to spend more money in a game store than you and you're bothered by that maybe you take it too serious?

 

[GLADIUS]

question for somebody, is apocalypse compatible with apple? thanks

 

[Yuzu]

I really never liked the Idea of exp pots being ingame as it does eventually gives a advantage to players lets say a double exp pot is in game shop and then a work of 12 hours of leveling without an exp pot can be done in 6 hours of leveling with a exp pot i'd like to see the subscription in the game shop with other cosmetic stuff i think its just more fair then exp pots etc

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I likes I would happily pay a sub or a tiered sub. How would you draw up prices though? £8.99? £12.99? £16.99?


All said and done its just a game so if someone getting ahead because they want to spend more money in a game store than you and you're bothered by that maybe you take it too serious?

well when your playing as a hardcore player seeing people go past you just because they spend money and it means that they spend way more less time online then you and they can get past you like that its never fine for anyone really that means that its P2W thats all

 

[ibby]

Just looked at skill page of website

dark chains on wizard peaked my interest, how will it work?
bladestorm on an assasin, the warrior version or has it been changed?

 

[Xx69xX]

Just looked at skill page of website

dark chains on wizard peaked my interest, how will it work?
bladestorm on an assasin, the warrior version or has it been changed?

Our developers uploaded some wrong information. We have already contacted them, they will be editing soon. They have put wrong spells in wrong places etc. Very frustrating!

-Apocalypse Team

 

[Yuzu]

You guys taking a look or a discussion about subscription over exp pots etc?

 

[Exwizz]

you must be stupid if you think there gonna make a subscription thing for mir, this is a small community, not WoW or something along them lines.

 

[Koriban]

[video=youtube;-czU3F3aK24]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-czU3F3aK24&feature=youtu.be&t=183[/video]

3:03 for the subscription package deal. @Tai video won't link at a certain time your forum sucks I want a refund.

 

[meijiz]

Just a suggestion, please don’t update the future contents and patches too fast, most ppl playing mir are around the age that has family and job need to be taken care of can’t geek in mir all day. So with a steady rate or by checking the server’s progression to release the future update is reasonable, And the server will run longer. Believe or not most ppl in this community loves the hype of a new server, and grind in those old caves. That’s just my personal suggestion

ps. Any thoughts of how to deal with ppl that using hacks and goldseller?

 

[GLADIUS]

Just a suggestion, please don’t update the future contents and patches too fast, most ppl playing mir are around the age that has family and job need to be taken care of can’t geek in mir all day. So with a steady rate or by checking the server’s progression to release the future update is reasonable, And the server will run longer. Believe or not most ppl in this community loves the hype of a new server, and grind in those old caves. That’s just my personal suggestion

ps. Any thoughts of how to deal with ppl that using hacks and goldseller?

also how would you stop one account to be used by multiple people, this is one of the main reason of ppl moaning about unbalanced etc which is coming

 

[DarkSacred]

also how would you stop one account to be used by multiple people, this is one of the main reason of ppl moaning about unbalanced etc which is coming

A solution could be to use IP locked 2FA? Not sure on the tech required behind it for something like a game but this is how all of my corporate devices are protected from unauthorised login.

Would instantly cut down on people sharing an account unless they had access to the same mobile phone and lived in the same town/city.

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you must be stupid if you think there gonna make a subscription thing for mir, this is a small community, not WoW or something along them lines.

It could work, I always viewed the Mir package on Zircon as a subscription. But that’s exactly how IMO they would have to do it.

One or several 30 day “packages” in the GG store, account wide, limited to a single buff and they are the only ones that offer any direct benefit to your character. Everything else in the GG store would be cosmetic only.

The 30 day packages could be tiered offering incrimental benefits. Or just a single 30, 60 and 90 day package the bigger your “sub” the better the price reduction.

Whatever they decide to do massive lessons should be taken from the way Jamie managed his GG store, while not perfect offering buffs in days instead of hours instantly made them more appealing, GG buffs not counting down when offline or in a safe zone made me spend more not less because I felt as though the price justified the bonus where as paying several quid for a 60 minute buff that could be ruined if your hunt got raided by another guild.... nah I’ll keep my pennies thanks!

Do we have any official thoughts on the GG store and the vision for how they intend it to work?

 

[meijiz]

ip lock would be a good idea actually

 

[GinkoTreeValley]

ip lock would be a good idea actually

For launch I’m taking my pc to a friends then will be playing from home the next day on a diff iP so plz don’t ban me for nothing

 

[GinkoTreeValley]

ip lock would be a good idea actually

I take my pc to a friends for launch and play from home the next day...

 

[Hastelloy]

Umm you guys remember that warrior skill in mir2usa which is similar to shoulder dash but you teleport and cut through your enemys doing decent damage is that gonna be in ? i'd love to see warriors getting more then the usual old skills i think its called slashingburst ? not sure tbh be nice to know if theres something new planned for that class

It's in for level 53 (i think, dont quote me on it though :P am pretty sure)

ip lock would be a good idea actually

No, horrendous idea. How would that work for people who play in more than one location. Me personally for example i play from work, home and a friends house on the odd occasion...more so split between home/work and i know there's quite a few people like me. Even with a different approach the thought of having to 'authenticate' myself before i log on every time would put me off enough to just not bother and even the phone approach wouldn't stop the proper multis as they would just tell the next person on what the code was so they could get in the account.

It's happened for years, i never saw the problem with account sharing, people know the risks and the potential rewards.

 

[DarkSacred]

I take my pc to a friends for launch and play from home the next day...

Assuming you live locally it wouldn’t be an issue. IP lock doesn’t restrict you to a single IP but rather a geographical location. It would check the registering IP location against the login IP location, if the variance is too high it would refuse access.

Coupled with 2FA so you receive a code to a mobile phone that’s valid for a couple of minutes and is required on login.

If you change location you would receive an email warning of attempted login outside of your standard location. You could then approve this using a link in the email. Every time you approve an alternate location a log is raised with the server. If activity is extremely abnormal (logging in at say London for a few hours, swapping to Edinburgh for a few hours then back to London, or one country to another) then your account could be flagged for investigation / account sharing violations.

All depends on what the team want to do to help curb account sharing / multying. If it’s not that big of an issue it’s a lot of extra work.

 

[Yuzu]

you must be stupid if you think there gonna make a subscription thing for mir, this is a small community, not WoW or something along them lines.

buddy i dont mean P2P you played rise of the archons ? they had a 30 days subscription you can play easily without it and still be on the top its just an alternative for the gameshop and it doesnt have to be huge benefits just a fair amount for the people to donate and help the team its nothing like wow or anything

It would actually be harder for people to use the gameshop for Gold so it would take out abit of the GG selling for ingame gold on the otherhand if it was used for Exp pots it would be more effective for them to get gold using GG and i never really like the idea of exp pots in mir 2 servers as it just depends on whoever puts more money into the game for exp pots gets a hell of a advantage on every other player causal or not just trying to find them an alternative to exp pots and i think this is a pretty good idea tbh

 

[jayjay098]

Umm you guys remember that warrior skill in mir2usa which is similar to shoulder dash but you teleport and cut through your enemys doing decent damage is that gonna be in ? i'd love to see warriors getting more then the usual old skills i think its called slashingburst ? not sure tbh be nice to know if theres something new planned for that class

answer this please, I've also seen it and it does pretty much dmg, it makes warrior looks dashing.