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lul @ in a few months 88 damage is going to be average"'
more like, in a few months this server will be empty if this **** continues :chargrined:
more like, in a few months this server will be empty if this **** continues :chargrined:
Should have had an emergency reboot last night after the feedback you received.
The fact that this reboot to revert to minor changes is delayed this much, will be highly concerning and putting further distrust in your experience at running a server.
For me the most concerning thing is, this server has(had) a 400+ user count. These numbers are almost unheard of, you literally have the whole LOM community in your hands.
I even met a good few (not just one or two) people that havint played Mir since Euro days and this is what they return to?
There is going to be a lack of confidence for these returning players, that this game is nothing more than a negative nostalgia trip.
LOMCN should also be more vigilant as well, and ensure servers are ready before having the global email sent out.
Just to note, I certainly appreciate the server team and definitely do encourage that ye keep up the work specially since so few of ye left. You and your team are clearly very decent at making servers and know how to make a server. Pitty it was untested and only listening to the usual suspects for your changes.
The fact that this reboot to revert to minor changes is delayed this much, will be highly concerning and putting further distrust in your experience at running a server.
For me the most concerning thing is, this server has(had) a 400+ user count. These numbers are almost unheard of, you literally have the whole LOM community in your hands.
I even met a good few (not just one or two) people that havint played Mir since Euro days and this is what they return to?
There is going to be a lack of confidence for these returning players, that this game is nothing more than a negative nostalgia trip.
LOMCN should also be more vigilant as well, and ensure servers are ready before having the global email sent out.
Just to note, I certainly appreciate the server team and definitely do encourage that ye keep up the work specially since so few of ye left. You and your team are clearly very decent at making servers and know how to make a server. Pitty it was untested and only listening to the usual suspects for your changes.
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This is a reply quite frankly im annoyed i must do. Iv seen 2 constructive replies about warriors, and 15 people loosing their heads.If players are telling me yellow is now not procing enough it is something we can change in 30 seconds and put ingame immediately without a reboot. We always take the safe approach where we can and if something needs a tad of an increase then we can without a huge concern.
Damage: TDB is currently without fail the most overpowered skill in the game at present. I am watching warriors run around in 2 gale rings and very basic warrior gear hitting 70sX2 thats 140 damage. What happens when a warrior gets some real gear. Well like i said in previous post, i tested this with again not end game at all but mid game warrior damage and i was pulling sometimes 160X2+ thats 320 damage. Thats not ok, for non endgame kit.
Kane is at home today and i have asked him to up the proc rate if his tests are bad, but the damage is a ridiculous and quite frankly a spoilt response from a class that has been overlytuned.
our goal is with balance is to ensure that the class balance is the best it can be (we accept that with mir you never get full balance). This may mean that for short periods of times spells could be over tuned or under tuned. Tdb was overtuned. We nerfed it by 7%. For those unsure of the numbers. 7% of 100 is 7damage if you were hitting 100s before you are now hitting 93s. I comfortably say that this is not gamechanging at all. Yellow not procing is, which is why constructive feedback will prevent me wasting time on here replying and actually fixing
-Apocalypse Team
Damage: TDB is currently without fail the most overpowered skill in the game at present. I am watching warriors run around in 2 gale rings and very basic warrior gear hitting 70sX2 thats 140 damage. What happens when a warrior gets some real gear. Well like i said in previous post, i tested this with again not end game at all but mid game warrior damage and i was pulling sometimes 160X2+ thats 320 damage. Thats not ok, for non endgame kit.
Kane is at home today and i have asked him to up the proc rate if his tests are bad, but the damage is a ridiculous and quite frankly a spoilt response from a class that has been overlytuned.
our goal is with balance is to ensure that the class balance is the best it can be (we accept that with mir you never get full balance). This may mean that for short periods of times spells could be over tuned or under tuned. Tdb was overtuned. We nerfed it by 7%. For those unsure of the numbers. 7% of 100 is 7damage if you were hitting 100s before you are now hitting 93s. I comfortably say that this is not gamechanging at all. Yellow not procing is, which is why constructive feedback will prevent me wasting time on here replying and actually fixing
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Any comment regarding the pots? With this change we arent even able to hunt for 15 minutes without having to go restock on pots. Whats fun about that?
Everything on this server is starting to feel like a chore.f
Please, increase the bag weight so we can take more pots with us OR revert the HP changes.
Everything on this server is starting to feel like a chore.f
Please, increase the bag weight so we can take more pots with us OR revert the HP changes.
Main reason I added in PvE and PvP values to the skill database, give full control on the damage outputs without affecting PvP or PvE when one is an issue.
Balancing is a game in it's self, tweak, tweak and tweak again until it feels/seems right, you'll always have someone moaning regardless.
It's still very early for the server and with all the teething problems any customized server would have, they're doing well.
Balancing is a game in it's self, tweak, tweak and tweak again until it feels/seems right, you'll always have someone moaning regardless.
It's still very early for the server and with all the teething problems any customized server would have, they're doing well.
The pot change was the right thing to do...
Warriors where never able to hunt in PB solo and not expect a quick repot. Its a quick way of levelling but costs a lot in pots....
If you don't like it group with a tao.. or group hunt in general.
You shouldn't have a 33 warrior running round PB in **** kit owning the mobs and only having to repot every hour or so...Some of you have very short memories.
There are other levelling options..
In terms of TDB it seems a middle ground needs to be made... but chill out :cheerful:
Warriors where never able to hunt in PB solo and not expect a quick repot. Its a quick way of levelling but costs a lot in pots....
If you don't like it group with a tao.. or group hunt in general.
You shouldn't have a 33 warrior running round PB in **** kit owning the mobs and only having to repot every hour or so...Some of you have very short memories.
There are other levelling options..
In terms of TDB it seems a middle ground needs to be made... but chill out :cheerful:
Pots heal for the same amount still right? Just Slower... So how come you can't hunt for as long now?
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You have not stated a single problem, only that we should of had an emergency reboot? based on previous posts im guessing the 7% nerf to TDB? You want us to reboot a server based on 7% damage? How do you expect us to reply to this?
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I was mid replying the exact same thing. I cant reply to this all day as people are making little sense in the problems they have with our changes, Baring warriors yellow proc being too low. I see no problems in any change.
I see warriors below level 32 complaining about TDB.
its very difficult to look at feedback vs silliness sometimes.
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Change the time between auto pot?
Changing the time between pot regen doesn't change anything to the fact that the hardcore players have been able to lvl much faster than the casual changes. This change you are making will make it even harder for low lvls to lvl up.
The hardcore/ nolifers had a huge advantage and this change will only make the gap between the hardcore players and the casuals bigger and bigger.
This will result in casuals not bothering to lvl up and leave the server all together. Leaving only a few hardcore players on the server.
If this is the direction you wish to head to, you are right on track
The hardcore/ nolifers had a huge advantage and this change will only make the gap between the hardcore players and the casuals bigger and bigger.
This will result in casuals not bothering to lvl up and leave the server all together. Leaving only a few hardcore players on the server.
If this is the direction you wish to head to, you are right on track
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What I’m confused is the fact why people are crying so much than sins were buffed, I mean they’re pretty much being out DPS’ed and can’t kill anything in pvp unless people stand still...
im a 37 Sin 15-60 dc... fighting a 37 Tao (SinPaki vs Geek)
before reboot, I’m hitting blocks, 1-2 damage ,20-20, 10-12 barely hitting A 40/40
whereas his shinsu alone hits 60/70+ and attacks fast/ when I manage to him him and taos are hard when they have SFB shinsu.. I’m hitting 1 and 2? And blocks... sins were appauling in pvp and have been tweaked now because they are even more squishier due to pot regen and deal actually good damage now and are a threat, before on a wiz I could afk with 2/3 sins on me with no worry as they dealt 5’s -15’s, people like Cry, GenDancea, Sexybitch etc top sins doing **** all damage and were useless and feedback has been given to gm and they’ve finally been done right, squishy but deal good damage...
We are a single target class so we should be dealing scary but not 1 shot damage, that’s my opinion anyways
what i disagree on is buffing the shitty euro bosses because I recall they’re not the end game bosses and should be fairly easy for a small group to kill, and now regen is nerfed a group will struggle killing bosses now, needs to be taken into consideration for the lower lvls too
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If it uses twice amount, increase the seconds? E.g mines 75% and use a pot for every 2 seconds... just simply double it..
im a 37 Sin 15-60 dc... fighting a 37 Tao (SinPaki vs Geek)
before reboot, I’m hitting blocks, 1-2 damage ,20-20, 10-12 barely hitting A 40/40
whereas his shinsu alone hits 60/70+ and attacks fast/ when I manage to him him and taos are hard when they have SFB shinsu.. I’m hitting 1 and 2? And blocks... sins were appauling in pvp and have been tweaked now because they are even more squishier due to pot regen and deal actually good damage now and are a threat, before on a wiz I could afk with 2/3 sins on me with no worry as they dealt 5’s -15’s, people like Cry, GenDancea, Sexybitch etc top sins doing **** all damage and were useless and feedback has been given to gm and they’ve finally been done right, squishy but deal good damage...
We are a single target class so we should be dealing scary but not 1 shot damage, that’s my opinion anyways
what i disagree on is buffing the shitty euro bosses because I recall they’re not the end game bosses and should be fairly easy for a small group to kill, and now regen is nerfed a group will struggle killing bosses now, needs to be taken into consideration for the lower lvls too
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If it uses twice amount, increase the seconds? E.g mines 75% and use a pot for every 2 seconds... just simply double it..
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You can level at the same rate lol it just means don’t expect to survive standing around 100 mobs and can outpot it.. it’s still the same you wiz goes to psc kr etc smash mobs, just don’t over do it lmao
pot regen > I ranked 4 omas in pb
new update > I can’t tank 2/3 lol which is good as shouldn’t be able to in first place
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Pretty ****ed off with the effort put in towards getting to 32, it’s such a slog but knowing tdb is coming has kept me pushing, to get to this.
Seems like advantage lays with the people who have plowed so much money in or on day one bought **** loads of 40% tokens/ heavy players who don’t work and when rest of us catch up just in time to get ****ed.
Serious question tho, is it an option to have warr wiped and replaced with same level of other class?
Seems like advantage lays with the people who have plowed so much money in or on day one bought **** loads of 40% tokens/ heavy players who don’t work and when rest of us catch up just in time to get ****ed.
Serious question tho, is it an option to have warr wiped and replaced with same level of other class?
What are your thoughts on the hardcore warriors being able to tank & HM 4 omas at once in PB to level up since the start, and now as the more casual players approach PB, they can only kill 1 or 2 at a time? I feel the pot regen change is a direct nerf to a Warrior's ability to gain xp solo (or at least limits their options quite a bit)
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Have you tested tdb. It was lowered by7%. 7% is 7damage out of 100. So hitting 93 instead of 100.
Its still overtuned on here in comparison to other low rates. I will be holding an open discord chat tonight. Please see other post to give feedback on tdb.
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