Red Poison

[Veora]

How much has this been nerfed?

From my tests with SFB on mobs damage goes from 167 normal max to 172 red poison max. This is less than 3% extra damage so I would like to know if this is intended?

 

[Davemale22]

Same it is useless again how it use to be before it was made to work probly

 

[stephens_l]

How much has this been nerfed?

From my tests with SFB on mobs damage goes from 167 normal max to 172 red poison max. This is less than 3% extra damage so I would like to know if this is intended?

172 for a sfb..? And people cried when wizzies hit anything near that with Flame disruptor. Not to mention FD has a longer cast time, less range and more mana cost. Wizzies have shield but less hp. A 172 hit would do 86 on a mage through shield who @ 42 have 199 HP. Thats one hit!

Plus the green poison taos have and all their buffs / Pets / cc skills to use too. Balance my ass. Lol.

 

[Seanofsmeg]

Don't think he has mentioned what he was hitting before you fly off the handle on damage could of been a hen! Plus I reckon your shield maths is wrong...

 

[stephens_l]

Don't think he has mentioned what he was hitting before you fly off the handle on damage could of been a hen! Plus I reckon your shield maths is wrong...

I'm not flying off the handle. Just because you choose to interpret my post as such doesnt make it so. Anyway, tao damage is still insanely high.

And ok, if you know something i dont, please do correct me on my maths then with regards to this example.

There is a 50% damage reduction is on shield is there not? Granted I didn't take into account the amc of a wizard but it's usually piss poor anyway. Wouldn't make a huge difference.

Even if that example was a hen.. and you scaled it down to a 150 hit against a player and allowed -20 for Amc defence you are still looking at a ranged hit of 130 / 65 through shield against a character with under 200 HP @42.

That's without even mentioning all the other things like green poison, defence buffs, heals and hide to loose agro that taos have available to them.

 

[Veora]

I said mobs in my post, I hit with firebang for more than that on my Wizz. Lucky to get 100 hits in PVP.

 

[Drakay]

Tao’s red poison doesn’t need any % damage increase with the strength of their soul fire ball lol.

 

[stephens_l]

I said mobs in my post, I hit with firebang for more than that on my Wizz. Lucky to get 100 hits in PVP.

Just because the PvP / PvE multipliers are crap on a wiz, doesnt make it so on a tao. As far as i have seen Tao's do great damage on both.

FD for example.. is crap on both PvP and PvE .. i hit regular 20s-40s with the odd 90 with FD @ Lvl 3 with 50-55 MC (unbuffed / depending on gear) on PB mobs..

Regular Blocked - 60s with the odd 90-110 on FD in PvP (which has a slower cast time than SFB and smaller range).

Don't know what level your char/what gear you have but 38-40 Taos do hit at least 100+s in PvP with red poisons consistently. I know that from personal experience when fighting them.

Cant comment further from personal experience but i have heard level 40+ Taos can hit even much more than that in PvP with red poison and Sfb. Either way i still think they are too strong given the other skills also available to them.. but that's just my opinion.

 

[Muh]

I watched a lvl 40 + tao named solo beat 2 sins/war/tao in mtk KR on HER own.

They are amazingly strong for support

 

[Seanofsmeg]

I'm not flying off the handle. Just because you choose to interpret my post as such doesnt make it so. Anyway, tao damage is still insanely high.

And ok, if you know something i dont, please do correct me on my maths then with regards to this example.

There is a 50% damage reduction is on shield is there not? Granted I didn't take into account the amc of a wizard but it's usually piss poor anyway. Wouldn't make a huge difference.

Even if that example was a hen.. and you scaled it down to a 150 hit against a player and allowed -20 for Amc defence you are still looking at a ranged hit of 130 / 65 through shield against a character with under 200 HP @42.

That's without even mentioning all the other things like green poison, defence buffs, heals and hide to loose agro that taos have available to them.

I used the flying off the handle term as you seemed unhappy and compared it heavily to wizz FD when its about Red Poison but were comparing a debuff to a wizzies strongest single target spell which are polar opposites.

As for dmg being insane for a tao I agree SFB is strong but i feel its a nice strong and I don't think we are a support class anymore we are our own class with support skills. As for it being broke there is video posted in a cheating thread just today that shows 40+ war and 40+ tao fighting it out and the tao is decent geared but even with posion and stuff SFB's is only hitting 40's in PvP - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmU6n5fq9nI

I do agree on a separate point that your FD base damage needs buffed as I was 30 tao and a 40 wizz in decent enough gear struggled to two shot me which he should of