Tai / valk
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I've said my piece.
A lot of people playing Valk lost faith in Tai, he can restore that somewhat, at least with me...
A lot of people playing Valk lost faith in Tai, he can restore that somewhat, at least with me...
Nah those people on discord already loved to hate me cos I called them out on Apoc
Anyway, this is a good server but it needs better advertising. I recommend a half decent mailshot and some banners at least. I spoke to him about banners weeks ago but it doesn't seem to be a priority. I don't know how we can add it back to the status list when it's already been revealed that it was fabricated once... but we'll see
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Like fabricating a Honda Civic to look like a Golf xD
I seriously don't know how you can defend servers how have a huge user count via boxed miners, afk sellers and afk companions "it's within the rules", that is twisted logic. What is your problem with giving someone a slap on the wrist? This is policing rather than moderating.
I seriously don't know how you can defend servers how have a huge user count via boxed miners, afk sellers and afk companions "it's within the rules", that is twisted logic. What is your problem with giving someone a slap on the wrist? This is policing rather than moderating.
Does seem a little crazy, there clearly was something wrong with valks ports, it displayed about 13 more users on lomcn than it did ingame. Don't really see the big deal could of just been a misunderstanding of somewhat by valk. You can log on Zircon / Arcadia yet you don't see even 50% of that usercount.
Also just seems so silly that he would inflate his UC by like 10-20 such a small number considering at peak times a week or so back it was hitting around 170-180 ingame which was the legit number.
Would really love it if he just made one Global SZ map though, looks weird logging on only seeing 15-25 people in dread when theres 130+ online, this really need to be a top of the list in my eye's, a lot of people are getting bored from lack of pk, mainly down to there being no main town.
Also just seems so silly that he would inflate his UC by like 10-20 such a small number considering at peak times a week or so back it was hitting around 170-180 ingame which was the legit number.
Would really love it if he just made one Global SZ map though, looks weird logging on only seeing 15-25 people in dread when theres 130+ online, this really need to be a top of the list in my eye's, a lot of people are getting bored from lack of pk, mainly down to there being no main town.
There’s a lot of things happening asap for PK, including town War Pk where you take ownership of said towns with benefits this should be fun.
Valks been very pro active recently to implement better 75+ items dropping and is looking into making melee having exp adjusted in melee caves to be more on par with wiz lvling speeds.
There’s a catch up exp boost for under lvls80 ingame also so that should suit new comers.
Valks been very pro active recently to implement better 75+ items dropping and is looking into making melee having exp adjusted in melee caves to be more on par with wiz lvling speeds.
There’s a catch up exp boost for under lvls80 ingame also so that should suit new comers.
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Sounds like it could have just been getting a count of how many accounts were logged into the server vs characters logged into the game. ie, 13 people were sat at character select.
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Sounds more like the status connection port had been manipulated to give off false readings.
The status connection port and the ingame user count both read from the same user list - but are simply displayed in different methods. If they are that varied then theres only one logical explanation imo.
If you fake your user count you don't deserve to use the free service Tai provides.
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If that was REALLY the case then he would of done a far better job, everytime I refreshed Lomcn I have my eyes open to the user count usually, because i'm curious about Zircon (that never goes down thanks to cheap UC practices that are perfectly legal), Valk's UC pretty much always reflected what it said ingame. This is despite well known bugs on Valk, such as needed to log out because of bag, changing resoltion and the biggest one, logging out in a SZ so you can generate Rested XP.
Tai was known to have issues about Valk server before, him and Jamie were against the server right from the start for not knowing the server owner, Jamie/Kori/Tai had cracks at it whenever they felt like, including the cheek of Tai a couple of days ago to go "you log onto Valkyrie and wonder where the UC is!". You don't play this game Tai, I've played it since it's birth, I know where a lot of people are and the same goes for Tai in this regard, he doesn't deserve to comment about where users are on a free game, not without SOLID EVIDENCE.
This is a Tai/Jamie/Kori forum, with hints of some other veterans, i'm pretty sad at the state it's gotten into, the moderation and "big players" here don't feel helpful, they feel like massive pressure mafia bosses that haven't to be rubbed the right way. I'm not even properly playing Mir anymore right now, but I couldn't just shutup about the disgusting action that Tai just casually did, Valk's a person like you Tai, you made plenty of mistakes, if he made a mistake, you do the right thing and slap him for it but let him carry on, don't erase a developers effort so easily, this Mir community deserves better!
lol you just won't accept it will you... I have solid evidence, I've said this already. You've clearly been taken in by all the conspiracies on discord by the looks of the rest of your post 
Was the "slap" not having it taken off the list? He hasn't offered to fix it so get off my case?
Also I did play actually, up until a couple of weeks ago
Was the "slap" not having it taken off the list? He hasn't offered to fix it so get off my case?
Also I did play actually, up until a couple of weeks ago
Lol so done with Admins / Devs here, such shitty replies. Mate 95% of that ******* server list ain't accurate, just give over and put it back on, im 99% sure valk has never tried to inflate his UC, Actually mind blowing **** Arcadia is still on there.
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You sure like your statistics lol. Whats next.. perhaps a bar graph or flowchart to highlight your point?.
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If 95% (a number you just completely plucked out your arse) aren't accurate then surely it would be more beneficial to just remove it altogether?
Surely an in inaccurate user count page is no use to anyone.
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lol you just won't accept it will you... I have solid evidence, I've said this already. You've clearly been taken in by all the conspiracies on discord by the looks of the rest of your post
Was the "slap" not having it taken off the list? He hasn't offered to fix it so get off my case?
Also I did play actually, up until a couple of weeks ago
Were these tests done on other servers too?
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You's need to dry your eyes. I posted the other day in favor of valk forums and such being restored with what information I had at the time. Still agree taking the forums done was maybe too rash decision for Tai to make but he has solid proof that Valk messed with the usercount and that gives him a good right to take it off the server list.
You guys say other servers do the same and I agree to an extent but a comment Tai has already made in user forums is there is a big differences to having AFK miners as they are logged in characters which would contribute to the logged in count to manipulating the amount of users logged in.
If you look at Far's comments there is two methods (Sections of code) which link in with each other to read numbers. No reason to change or edit them other than to throw off false readings.
You guys are focusing on Tai quite a bit but what about Valk? As he implemented any of the changes Tai has mentioned? He is a one man team and from day 1 people were hesitant to join due to the capabilities a one man team can produce. Valk is a great server and breath of fresh air but he simply might be struggling to keep up the duties required. Before moaning at Tai again why not moan at Valk loads until he has done what he needs to on his end and then stand a better chance to get what is needed reinstated.
You guys say other servers do the same and I agree to an extent but a comment Tai has already made in user forums is there is a big differences to having AFK miners as they are logged in characters which would contribute to the logged in count to manipulating the amount of users logged in.
If you look at Far's comments there is two methods (Sections of code) which link in with each other to read numbers. No reason to change or edit them other than to throw off false readings.
You guys are focusing on Tai quite a bit but what about Valk? As he implemented any of the changes Tai has mentioned? He is a one man team and from day 1 people were hesitant to join due to the capabilities a one man team can produce. Valk is a great server and breath of fresh air but he simply might be struggling to keep up the duties required. Before moaning at Tai again why not moan at Valk loads until he has done what he needs to on his end and then stand a better chance to get what is needed reinstated.
1~10 user difference is about right as the status refreshes every 15 minutes?
But I assume Tai (or someone else maybe) just pulled the status count on demand during their tests while also being in-game, one would assume the numbers just didn't match up thus clear indication that the user count was false on the status port.
As Far said, both in-game and status counts use the same object list to do the count, the only way for them to be different is changing it in one of two places, one being the status connection.
There's a difference in spoofing a user count by +# and actually having active connections in-game (be it miners or what ever else) the only time I would see the latter being an issue is when it's clear someone has logged in on multiple accounts to increase the user count (I.E AFK noobs in shops/towns etc) but you can't just pin that on the server owner as it could be anyone.
I haven't seen one of you question why Valk felt the need to spoof his user count, if the user count is good without the +# then there should be no issues surely?
But I assume Tai (or someone else maybe) just pulled the status count on demand during their tests while also being in-game, one would assume the numbers just didn't match up thus clear indication that the user count was false on the status port.
As Far said, both in-game and status counts use the same object list to do the count, the only way for them to be different is changing it in one of two places, one being the status connection.
There's a difference in spoofing a user count by +# and actually having active connections in-game (be it miners or what ever else) the only time I would see the latter being an issue is when it's clear someone has logged in on multiple accounts to increase the user count (I.E AFK noobs in shops/towns etc) but you can't just pin that on the server owner as it could be anyone.
I haven't seen one of you question why Valk felt the need to spoof his user count, if the user count is good without the +# then there should be no issues surely?
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If you think about it the +10~25 was enough to keep it top of the Mir 2 list at all times.
@Tai is there an option to have the server displayed online but with the u/c hashed out / hidden? So people can see its a server and it is online? Also Fix Scorps servers its irritating they are offline all time
Lets take 1 step at a time and meet in the middle for Valk Users / Forum Team?
Sure, I've done that now.