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I suspect the main reason most Chinese private servers are still using delphi files is because most of them are still running windows XP and couldn't run Crystal if they wanted to.
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Themida can also protect native assemblies from C#
I fully understand that the most true engines will be based on the Delphi client, and naturally, there is a bigger 'ecosystem' around that. Any other implementation like in C# is pure emulation, which for better or worse is always going to be somewhat different.
Indeed - fair point, the inline ASM is a nice feature.. however there are ways to do this in C# - but it's not nearly as nice and is not really a feature of the language. Do you know if the Mir Clients based in Delphi use inline ASM for anything other than blending though? I mean, because of that implementation it means that the graphics processing for blending is carried out on the CPU instead of taking advantage of the GPU. In Crystal the c# takes advantage of the GPU blending through DirectX and in my client I take advantage of OpenGL for blending and have full access to shaders. (This is one thing I need to expand on with my client, because I can essentially replicate the pallet-based blending mechanism that is done by the ASM through shaders)
I would love to see how the Delphi/C++ clients perform under strain, are you able to provide any footage or links to the engines?
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@NightScare I'm slowly getting there, but this will be quite a major upgrade from our current engine (Also going from .NET 4.8 to .NET8/9 for both Client and server, so it's requiring a lot of testing! We will likely run a test server for a while before we use this new client/server)
I have to disagree with using Themida, I won't link the url to it but there are a few free crackers for Themida. Pretty sure @Valhalla & Win discovered that.
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Oh, I don't know Themida can protect it from the SDK level, thanks to know. One use case for the inline ASM is you can make a game not fully from the ground, if you really like a game, you can use the hack way to manipulate the network protocols and D3D rendering for adding new features, and then repack to yours, I know it's hard for lots of developers, but that's always happening in the gaming industry.
Themida can also protect native assemblies from C#
I fully understand that the most true engines will be based on the Delphi client, and naturally, there is a bigger 'ecosystem' around that. Any other implementation like in C# is pure emulation, which for better or worse is always going to be somewhat different.
Indeed - fair point, the inline ASM is a nice feature.. however there are ways to do this in C# - but it's not nearly as nice and is not really a feature of the language. Do you know if the Mir Clients based in Delphi use inline ASM for anything other than blending though? I mean, because of that implementation it means that the graphics processing for blending is carried out on the CPU instead of taking advantage of the GPU. In Crystal the c# takes advantage of the GPU blending through DirectX and in my client I take advantage of OpenGL for blending and have full access to shaders. (This is one thing I need to expand on with my client, because I can essentially replicate the pallet-based blending mechanism that is done by the ASM through shaders)
I would love to see how the Delphi/C++ clients perform under strain, are you able to provide any footage or links to the engines?
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@NightScare I'm slowly getting there, but this will be quite a major upgrade from our current engine (Also going from .NET 4.8 to .NET8/9 for both Client and server, so it's requiring a lot of testing! We will likely run a test server for a while before we use this new client/server)
the bigger 'ecosystem' may only be narrowed down to the Unity/Godot(Please correct me if I'm wrong), however, if you notice more, the TypeScript is quietly making the progress, the engine like Cocos Creator/Laya are very hot as well, if you notice UE5, C++ is still the one for making big games.
You said the inline ASM is not a feature, I really doubt about it, If you've ever made any Cheat applications, this feature is really the one beautiful which is really user-friendly for mapping the memory pointers to the real classes and functions, so the readability is very high.
Above all, don't get me wrong, in fact, I don't have a strong opinion for Delphi, I always use different programing languages for different purposes, however, I have to consider and understand the entire Mir2 community and ecosystem, I notice the LOMCN and Chinese community are developing in different ways, one is driven by the pure business, another is driven by the love and passion, who knows what the future will be but the GMs and Players
Sorry, I don't have the engine links as some of them can be found easily via the Chinese search engine.
Ah You’re talking about Chinese Mir, it’s not relevant here I’m afraid as we cannot use them.
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its a tough ask these days, a few hundred dwindling players across a few servers. alot of the remaining are still playing with their 14 year old ego and are more about the greifing than having fun. Then the server owners, alot (not all) just out to make money with no love for the game like the players (Egyptians etc). Then the gold sellers and levelers inbetween just remove the competition that yes in most games of 1000's of players isn't so bad but with such a small base its so obvious its demoralising.
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Would love to see a SW where each guild could employ a bunch of heroes to attack the wall making it a realistic 100vs100 rather than 5vs5
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The other keyword was "using" - i'd say if the server doesn't exist anymore it isn't using the files
As a player and someone with a lot of love and has dedicated many hours to the game, I find Delphi feels a lot better to play on than Crystal.