Working on Mir3 autohunt - sharing progress

[Xzoviac]

I'd hate to see more cash cows popping up with auto leveling it puts strain on the server when lots of people use it unless the entire server is reworked to support it, means less armours dropping for frags potions removed, grinds added as the base game hasn't got enough content to support 24/7 playstyle, non of these things will be done by quick cash cow servers, and the state of mir 3 will become even worse I'd rather someone does the opposite and worked on some anti botting systems personally.

 

[Valhalla]

I'd hate to see more cash cows popping up with auto leveling it puts strain on the server when lots of people use it unless the entire server is reworked to support it, means less armours dropping for frags potions removed, grinds added as the base game hasn't got enough content to support 24/7 playstyle, non of these things will be done by quick cash cow servers, and the state of mir 3 will become even worse I'd rather someone does the opposite and worked on some anti botting systems personally.

Unfortunately servers that have focused on anti-afk and anti-botting haven't even lasted a month in the past because a good portion of the Mir community just don't have the time to play like they used to and only focus on the servers that do support afk and botting. The remaining few that don't care about botting or not only move to servers with the higher usercounts, which usercount seems to go hand in hand with those servers that allow botting.

TLDR; Servers with autohunt stand well above those that don't due to sheeple mentality.

 

[Far]

Again, not true. @Jamie introduced a device verification on his latest server.

All I hear is excuses to sit and do nothing about it.

Jamie actively allows account sharing, and his server is entirely driven by auto mechanics. Marble is probably the worst you can get for auto levelers.

 

[forspinki]

Would be interested in getting the code for this if you are willing to share, I've been bugging Jamie for a mir3 auto server since Marble v2 released.

 

[Jev]

Jamie actively allows account sharing, and his server is entirely driven by auto mechanics. Marble is probably the worst you can get for auto levelers.

I wasn't talking about auto levlers, more about how 3gena thinks nothing can be done about account sharing and paid levelers.

The point i was making was, their is ways to track account sharing as Jamie has shown with device verification which may not be designed for account sharing and more security but it can be used for both.

 

[Far]

I wasn't talking about auto levlers, more about how 3gena thinks nothing can be done about account sharing and paid levelers.

The point i was making was, their is ways to track account sharing as Jamie has shown with device verification which may not be designed for account sharing and more security but it can be used for both.

Im with 3gena on this one, there really is no simple way to stop account sharing.

 

[CheekyVimto]

I'm not really in favour of auto-levelling in its standard form, though I can see the potential in the functionality. there are some aspects of it that could be tinkered with to be more useful for other elements of the game.

There are however PLENTY of players that would use it, and for that reason alone I think you should probably create a PR for it, like Win did for the mir2 map compatibility, it won't get pulled into the base source, but it would at least be available for other devs to see your work.

Regardless of my opinions on the functionality, though, well done for getting an interesting feature working. I hope you do end up sharing it with the community.

 

[JoeDunn]

Unfortunately servers that have focused on anti-afk and anti-botting haven't even lasted a month in the past because a good portion of the Mir community just don't have the time to play like they used to and only focus on the servers that do support afk and botting. The remaining few that don't care about botting or not only move to servers with the higher usercounts, which usercount seems to go hand in hand with those servers that allow botting.

TLDR; Servers with autohunt stand well above those that don't due to sheeple mentality.

Im with 3gena on this one, there really is no simple way to stop account sharing.

but there is see this is the issue its just ******* lazy and all about greed you know that pissing the wrong person off will cause a whole guild to leave killing your server. its the same handful of people that are paying for people to level them every server its not hard to notice an account logging on from the uk then a few hours later egypt every night.

 

[clipox]

Autohunt destroys every game in my opinion, rather work on something meaningful.

 

[forspinki]

Theres definitely a place for it and people that like it. I much prefer auto hunt over the paying for levellers option. i would imagine levellers as a whole are taking 5-6 figures from the mir community every year which is crazy. Why spend £2 per hour or £40+ per day when you can just get a £1 auto leveling item that lasts 24 hours. Obviously, you could argue that you dont want levelers or auto hunting but no server has ever managed to stop the levellers. I have always been a fan of botting as it helps the working man.

If you look at Marble as an example, right now it feels a bit empty as there is probably only 20 people or so that actively go to do the bosses etc but at the start it was really active as the Chinese were playing manual a lot and so were 2-3 other guilds. as people were just using auto hunt during the times they were busy or sleeping which is really how its supposed to be used but once a lot of those players left for other servers that's when it started to feel a bit more empty so it was more of an issue of players leaving than auto hunt destroying the game but that's just my opinion.

 

[JoeDunn]

any one supporting auto hunting/leveling is beyond ******* retarded at this point. it takes less than 2 minutes to identify those who are botting and or paying levellers ohhh look Raw logged in from the uk at 3pm at 3 am he logs out and 30 seconds later he logs in from egypt every night of the week.

Its nothing but utter ******* laziness from Server owners and is sooooooo ******* easy for you to put a stop to. Pure greed from server owners not wanting to punish those who spend a few k in "donations" has caused this problem, Time to take some accountability stop being scared to ban one of the sheep's leaders, punish the main culprits(we all know who they are) and this ends over night.

At what point do you just give every one max levels and kit?

Mobile gaming has become a huge ******* cancer.

 

[Ohnozircon]

any one supporting auto hunting/leveling is beyond ******* retarded at this point. it takes less than 2 minutes to identify those who are botting and or paying levellers ohhh look Raw logged in from the uk at 3pm at 3 am he logs out and 30 seconds later he logs in from egypt every night of the week.

Its nothing but utter ******* laziness from Server owners and is sooooooo ******* easy for you to put a stop to. Pure greed from server owners not wanting to punish those who spend a few k in "donations" has caused this problem, Time to take some accountability stop being scared to ban one of the sheep's leaders, punish the main culprits(we all know who they are) and this ends over night.

At what point do you just give every one max levels and kit?

Mobile gaming has become a huge ******* cancer.

You are actually deluded if you think banning people would stop it lol

 

[JoeDunn]

You are actually deluded if you think banning people would stop it lol

of course it would its so easy to stop just none of you want to hurt your pocket in order to stop it. The player base is full of self entitled egotistical ****s that need to be brought back in line. The game has never been in such a worse state and its such an easy problem to fix the simple truth is money talks and people are only in it for the money these days.

 

[Jev]

of course it would its so easy to stop just none of you want to hurt your pocket in order to stop it. The player base is full of self entitled egotistical ****s that need to be brought back in line. The game has never been in such a worse state and its such an easy problem to fix the simple truth is money talks and people are only in it for the money these days.

Don't forget lazy

 

[Piff1]

Tbh always said since i seen Auto in Mir2 that its much more fitting to Mir3.

 

[Hole]

Impossible to check the server logs for IP changes?
Impossible to ban players found doing it?
Impossible to ban people on your discord when advertising such services?
Impossible to code a system to show better IP tracking against different accounts?

Obviously this is if you are against levelers

Just means he can monetise a auto leveling system and refuses to an any player using a leveler as its also income lost secondary items.

Don't disagree with the logic and I salute business but let's call a spade a spade.

 

[Xzoviac]

I think auto leveling features would be good for the controller support and accessibility at least combining some auto cast auto targets on press.

 

[idaBigA]

I think it's a great idea, and a great piece of coding. Yeah, some don't like it, then don't enable it on your server, and if a server uses it, don't play on it.

It is a good way for the server owners to make a little extra cash too, why not, they are the ones providing the service and giving their time to update and improve the server as well as the resources to run it. It they decide to include this and their server doesn't last because everyone hates it, it's their choice.

I don't post much lately, but this one and others adding improvements to the Mir servers really interest me and I love to see peoples passion when working on new things. Well done!

 

[LOMValkyrie]

Not really, it helps casual players alot catchup those players paying levelers 24/7 with out this casual players fall behind more than u cant imagine

its down to the server owners to create a server that does not cater to levellers

it doesnt help anyone catchup at all it just pushes the whole server through the content at an insane pace and kills off a server much faster than expected.

also another issue is when you can pay £1 for 1 day of auto hunt your average whale can now run 20 characters 24/7 and feed all resources into one mega char basically making the server into mir manager game...

a leveler charges on average 1.50-2 quid an hour and they dont play 24/7 because they arent robots.

so if you think having a handful of players not using levellers for 12hrs per day compared to the entire server population running multiple bots for 24hrs a day non stop is a good thing then you need to give your head a shake.

 

[SmavidDavid]

The answer would be to prevent autoplay being used by the top (X)%, or after certain levels. Enables people to then actually catchup without just clicking a NPC and being given gear/spells. Still makes low level items hold a value, rather than being instantly redundant.

Alternatively a cap on useage to prevent people just leveling 24/7, only allowing 4hrs a day.

There also needs to be more of a consequence for using auto play if people implement it for use 24/7, for example no pots, or gold dropping it literally is a XP service, nothing else.