Marble V2 [Discussion]

[Hurricane]

I'm going to assume Hurricane will get removed pretty soon too, as we know that UC will slowly start to increase once people start setting miners / fishers up.

Even Artificial is mostly made up of AFK characters either fishing / creature stone farming.

I only have mining in the game and even that is limited to 5 clients per PC. I’m completely against AFK mechanics or anything that inflates UC. The only reason I added mining because every other owner was doing it and showing off inflated "silly online" counts while they barely had 30–50 real players.

If there’s a proper discussion and a rule gets set against AFK mechanics that mess with UC, I’d delete mining by now!

 

[syke]

I only have mining in the game and even that is limited to 5 clients per PC. I’m completely against AFK mechanics or anything that inflates UC. The only reason I added mining because every other owner was doing it and showing off inflated "silly online" counts while they barely had 30–50 real players.

If there’s a proper discussion and a rule gets set against AFK mechanics that mess with UC, I’d delete mining by now!

You dont want aby silly afk mechanics.

Don't you promote free GG for being online and linked to discord? Thats promoting people to stay online AFk or not

 

[Hurricane]

You dont want aby silly afk mechanics.

Don't you promote free GG for being online and linked to discord? Thats promoting people to stay online AFk or not

There’s a huge difference. Staying online on your main with Discord linked isn’t the same as logging 30–50 alts just to fake UC. The system is meant to reward real presence and provide actual Discord visibility for promotion. If you can’t see the difference, you’re just chatting nonsense for the sake of it.

 

[Jev]

The problem is mirtracks.
We need better, we deserve better.

@Chriz made a decent MirTracks on his own site with graphs showing day/day hour/hour sorta thing. Was good to see extra statistics like highest UC and lowest, average.

Could even turn it into “popular times/days”

 

[syke]

There’s a huge difference. Staying online on your main with Discord linked isn’t the same as logging 30–50 alts just to fake UC. The system is meant to reward real presence and provide actual Discord visibility for promotion. If you can’t see the difference, you’re just chatting nonsense for the sake of it.

No I completely see the difference, but dont pretend you’re doing it for any other reason that to increase UC/keep UC online afk or not, you also have mining so the extras will be on anyway.

We can all pretend we don’t but every single server does it

 

[Hurricane]

No I completely see the difference, but dont pretend you’re doing it for any other reason that to increase UC/keep UC online afk or not, you also have mining so the extras will be on anyway.

We can all pretend we don’t but every single server does it

Fair poin, I’m not pretending it doesn’t help with UC But the key difference is that it’s tied to your main character which means people aren’t logging 30–50 alts just to benefit from it. So for example if there are 200 players online, it stays 200 real players not 800 fake alts sitting idle. You still need to be on your main, linked, and showing visible Discord activity. That’s way healthier for the server’s image and growth than inflating numbers with bots or idle alts. Every server may try to boost UC but how you do it makes all the difference!

EDIT: the main reason for this system was to boost advertisement and visibility on Discordnot to inflate UC. Believe it or not, that’s totally fine!

 

[Pusha]

To be fair, once you log onto any server nowadays you get a feel for what the community is like.

First thing I do on any server is run straight to bw and see if it's active.

Usercount used to be a good indicator, but now its better to just download and see for yourself.

 

[Jamie]

Fair poin, I’m not pretending it doesn’t help with UC But the key difference is that it’s tied to your main character which means people aren’t logging 30–50 alts just to benefit from it. So for example if there are 200 players online, it stays 200 real players not 800 fake alts sitting idle. You still need to be on your main, linked, and showing visible Discord activity. That’s way healthier for the server’s image and growth than inflating numbers with bots or idle alts. Every server may try to boost UC but how you do it makes all the difference!

EDIT: the main reason for this system was to boost advertisement and visibility on Discordnot to inflate UC. Believe it or not, that’s totally fine!

Not pointing fingers but theres about 90 AFK in safezone when I last checked, but there we go.

A few of which are of which are trying to mining thin air, so who knows how many are in the the caves mining too?

I suppose mining is an allowed UC buffer

 

[Breezer]

Why is there even a debate about the UC?? You're sharing a handful of players lol.

no doubt they're AFK'in on both of your servers.

 

[NightScare]

Why is there even a debate about the UC?? You're sharing a handful of players lol.

no doubt they're AFK'in on both of your servers.

Whats crazier than being AFK on one server nobody plays.

Being AFK on two servers that nobody plays.

 

[Jamie]

Why is there even a debate about the UC?? You're sharing a handful of players lol.

no doubt they're AFK'in on both of your servers.

Oh not a debat about that.

Just want to know where the line is, so I know what to change and what not to change.

Either way I doubt "?" will be removed so more of a curisoty thing at this point.

 

[Breezer]

Oh not a debat about that.

Just want to know where the line is, so I know what to change and what not to change.

Either way I doubt "?" will be removed so more of a curisoty thing at this point.

don't change a thing, the MirTracks sucks dick and should be improved if charged for and expected to be seen as a viable and legitimate UC.

can't believe you clowns been paying for it

 

[buttonsmasher]

Why don't more servers have autohunt if it's so desirable? Only took me a couple evenings to code it up for Mir2 and Mir3. Perhaps it's not that desirable?

 

[Breezer]

Why don't more servers have autohunt if it's so desirable? Only took me a couple evenings to code it up for Mir2 and Mir3. Perhaps it's not that desirable?

because none of them know how to use AI Coding Agents Or how to set up an OlLama local model.

 

[Tai]

don't change a thing, the MirTracks sucks dick and should be improved if charged for and expected to be seen as a viable and legitimate UC.

can't believe you clowns been paying for it

Are you dense? Any changes need to be made server side, which isn't enforceable.

 

[Slipmatt]

Mining should be completely done away with in this day and age anyway. Just add ore to mob drops, similar to what Elite did. Who the **** has the energy, or time to run miners now?

 

[Hurricane]

Mining should be completely done away with in this day and age anyway. Just add ore to mob drops, similar to what Elite did. Who the **** has the energy, or time to run miners now?

I completely agree with you there, systems like mining, fishing and auto-hunts can massively inflate the UC by 10x if not 20x !

Funny aint it ? @zedina

 

[nigelfarage]

Why don't more servers have autohunt if it's so desirable? Only took me a couple evenings to code it up for Mir2 and Mir3. Perhaps it's not that desirable?

i imagine now that they've seen how lucrative it can be, every server will have it from now on

 

[zedina]

I completely agree with you there, systems like mining, fishing and auto-hunts can massively inflate the UC by 10x if not 20x !

Funny aint it ? @zedina

Yes - very funny!

 

[Jev]

There’s a huge difference. Staying online on your main with Discord linked isn’t the same as logging 30–50 alts just to fake UC. The system is meant to reward real presence and provide actual Discord visibility for promotion. If you can’t see the difference, you’re just chatting nonsense for the sake of it.

All you need to do is have his discord activity turned on and sit in safe zone in game afk….

Surely if you were against “AFK mechanics” the system wouldn’t count players sat in any safe zone or idled outside of sz for x amount of time