Windows will not load

[KnightRider]

Hiya,

I dont know what happing, i stay around my gf house and when i came back the next day my computer does not run windows.

This is what i tryed so fair.

1. Boot from CD
- I get the messange "Do you want to boot from DVD/CD press any key" once i press any key nothing happens after (the system crashes no error message )

2. UnPlug everythink and just left the basic thing like HD, DVD-Rom, Ram, CPU
- Still does nothing same thing as boot from cd too

3. UnPlug HD and just boot from CD still nothing loads (system crash again)


i can access the BIOS etc just nothing after that

anyideas?

 

[MentaL]

Motherboard gone boooooom?
HD gone booooooooom??????????????

 

[mapadale]

Motherboard gone boooooom?
HD gone booooooooom??????????????

Idiot is the only word I can think of calling you.

Try loading into safe mode.

Do this by pressing F8 after you switch ur machine on untill you get the safe mode menu - if loads selct safe mode with networking, so you can access the net.

If it allows you to load into windows, then all you need to do is run the windows repair console. You do this by using your xp cd and using the repair function when you boot from disk.

The other way is if you have a branded pc, so just use ur recovery console and chose to do a non distructive recvery.

Both these will allow you to keep your files.

If it loads up safe mode but you cant get any further then you need to do a full recovery/rebuild of your OS as your on what is known as a safe mode loop back - If you have files on the hard drive and need the data recovering then let me know.

Also I would advise running a DSP/DST in bios - this is a hard drive test, don't worry this can take upto 1 1/2hrs but best leave it 2hrs. Any longer and ur hdd is fooked.

Try all that and let me know how you go on.

 

[DeathWish]

can u see ur hd at all in the bios or ?

 

[Sanity]

I think i just got this problem with my old pc =/, Load it up and dose same thing as his dose but i get error saying, Error with A Disk or something like that. Can't do anything, Want let me press F8, Tryed putting windows disc in to format but when i go onto disk, it says, Reading system Config.... and just goes blank =s so i can't do anything at all.

Its only a pc i keep my music on tho so am not really too botherd . But if you know away i can fix this then let me know please

 

[RedDragonX]

Idiot is the only word I can think of calling you.

Try loading into safe mode.

Do this by pressing F8 after you switch ur machine on untill you get the safe mode menu - if loads selct safe mode with networking, so you can access the net.

If it allows you to load into windows, then all you need to do is run the windows repair console. You do this by using your xp cd and using the repair function when you boot from disk.

The other way is if you have a branded pc, so just use ur recovery console and chose to do a non distructive recvery.


Both these will allow you to keep your files.

If it loads up safe mode but you cant get any further then you need to do a full recovery/rebuild of your OS as your on what is known as a safe mode loop back - If you have files on the hard drive and need the data recovering then let me know.

Also I would advise running a DSP/DST in bios - this is a hard drive test, don't worry this can take upto 1 1/2hrs but best leave it 2hrs. Any longer and ur hdd is fooked.

Try all that and let me know how you go on.

Why is he an idiot?, it could very well be a messed up HDD or Motherboard.

On the other hand do you get any error messages when you try to boot up windows?, BSOD? or does it just hang, automatically restart itself. It could just be your windows install.

 

[KnightRider]

Idiot is the only word I can think of calling you.

Try loading into safe mode.

Do this by pressing F8 after you switch ur machine on untill you get the safe mode menu - if loads selct safe mode with networking, so you can access the net.

If it allows you to load into windows, then all you need to do is run the windows repair console. You do this by using your xp cd and using the repair function when you boot from disk.

The other way is if you have a branded pc, so just use ur recovery console and chose to do a non distructive recvery.

Both these will allow you to keep your files.

If it loads up safe mode but you cant get any further then you need to do a full recovery/rebuild of your OS as your on what is known as a safe mode loop back - If you have files on the hard drive and need the data recovering then let me know.

Also I would advise running a DSP/DST in bios - this is a hard drive test, don't worry this can take upto 1 1/2hrs but best leave it 2hrs. Any longer and ur hdd is fooked.

Try all that and let me know how you go on.

Safe mode dont work, or does the other options there.

can u see ur hd at all in the bios or ?

I can see all HD, CD-ROM and etc

Why is he an idiot?, it could very well be a messed up HDD or Motherboard.

On the other hand do you get any error messages when you try to boot up windows?, BSOD? or does it just hang, automatically restart itself. It could just be your windows install.

all it does it just hang, no error msg is displayed

have to press the reboot or power button

 

[chimera]

Getting the F8 screen up can be tricky and it's exactly what I would do.....Try pressing the F8 after the first text is shown on the screen......keep trying until you get it. When this happens with my wifes PC (never happens with mine lol)
I reboot into safe mode then do a soft restart and it is usually fine after that.

 

[mapadale]

Safe mode dont work, or does the other options there.

If by this you mean you can access the safe mode menu, but it wont load any of the options as it comes back to it or that it won't select the item you want when you press enter.

Then you need to be running a DSP/DST in bios as you may have a faulty hdd - run the self test and leave it and as I said this can take upto 1 1/2 hours to do, but leave it to go as far as 2hrs and if its not complete by then. You need to replace your hard drive.

If the DSP/DST completes and no errors are shown(these would cause the test to hange ne ways) then your going to need to run your recovery and repair your OS - Failing this after doing the DSP/DST do a full fresh install of the OS.

@Red - Mental is an Idiot as he never has anything constuctive to say about anything, he's just uping his post count to keep himself active on here.

 

[Skunkmeister]

3. UnPlug HD and just boot from CD still nothing loads (system crash again)

oh well that must be a HD problem then /retardation

on an actually useful note the only advice i can give that isnt a total waste of time (like every other thing said here is, please please bring on the flames and next time READ THE SYMPTOMS BEFORE YOU DIAGNOSE!!!)

do not attempt to follow this advice if you are not 110% certain you know what you are doing, under no circumstances just start "having a go" (although the machine seems fked neways)

enter bios, as from your posts that the only thing thats still functioning 100%, and find the configuration for onboard peripherals (things like sound usb video etc on your motherboard) and disable everything that you can. basically from what you are describing a) your HDD is NOT THE PROBLEM, your HDD does NOT have some sort of wireless transciever to cause the problem after it has been removed as neither does it have any sort of battery inside to enable it to do so, at this point i would invite all the little children who think the HDD is the problem to piss off and learn to read instead of wasting time.

ok back to the point,

your computer seems to have passed POST fine (if you dont hear the usual beep upon boot then it hasnt (the beeping is different and represents an error code) but as it continues loading beyond this point then the problem it detected wont be serious enough to be causing this problem)

the MBR & HDD are 100% not the problem since neither is used by the windows installer until after you specify the freeze, however what windows is doing at both points (with and without install) is loading drivers and bringing various things up, which is why i suggest disabling everything you can via bios until the problem disappears, then you know what piece of hardware is blown and can leave it disabled permanently

my recommended soloution however is different, just replace the motherboard, but im guessing its just and old spare PC and finding one with the right socket and what not will be nigh on impossible

 

[Dr3AmScAp3]

oh well that must be a HD problem then /retardation

on an actually useful note the only advice i can give that isnt a total waste of time (like every other thing said here is, please please bring on the flames and next time READ THE SYMPTOMS BEFORE YOU DIAGNOSE!!!)

do not attempt to follow this advice if you are not 110% certain you know what you are doing, under no circumstances just start "having a go" (although the machine seems fked neways)

enter bios, as from your posts that the only thing thats still functioning 100%, and find the configuration for onboard peripherals (things like sound usb video etc on your motherboard) and disable everything that you can. basically from what you are describing a) your HDD is NOT THE PROBLEM, your HDD does NOT have some sort of wireless transciever to cause the problem after it has been removed as neither does it have any sort of battery inside to enable it to do so, at this point i would invite all the little children who think the HDD is the problem to piss off and learn to read instead of wasting time.

ok back to the point,

your computer seems to have passed POST fine (if you dont hear the usual beep upon boot then it hasnt (the beeping is different and represents an error code) but as it continues loading beyond this point then the problem it detected wont be serious enough to be causing this problem)

the MBR & HDD are 100% not the problem since neither is used by the windows installer until after you specify the freeze, however what windows is doing at both points (with and without install) is loading drivers and bringing various things up, which is why i suggest disabling everything you can via bios until the problem disappears, then you know what piece of hardware is blown and can leave it disabled permanently

my recommended soloution however is different, just replace the motherboard, but im guessing its just and old spare PC and finding one with the right socket and what not will be nigh on impossible

LOL, never laffed so hard after reading that dribble.

Where you get your information from.

First of its not past post, there are to sections to post.
You have the first part of post, where it detects hardware configuration. Then you have the second part of post which insilises the hardware.

After the second part of post is when the hard drive then starts to read the information stored on it in the contoller for the boot.ini.
This is where the fault may lay, he's tried safe mode and its not working - which would suggest that ether there is an issue with the OS itself or the hard drive.

Now most of the people here are going on the information that has been supplyed and sorry to say its very spares to what the issue is, as he hasn't gone into great detail about it.

Now to get this resolved as soon as possible, I would suggest doing the following.

1. Run dst/dsp in bios - have you done this
2. Try safe mode - Does it load - does it allow you to select options - does it come back to the menu after you have chosen one
3. Does it load up the XP loading screen
4. Does the drive detect in bios

There are a few simple things that will give more information to use teckies about what could be the fault and is a great starting point to diagnoise a fault also.

 

[Skunkmeister]

1. Boot from CD
- I get the messange "Do you want to boot from DVD/CD press any key" once i press any key nothing happens after (the system crashes no error message )

that message is part of the windows installer, and since hes seen it post has been passed.

and just because the hardware initalizes ok doesnt mean it wont short out because of something later on (like when its actually used), which would cause the computer to turn itself off instead of burning your house down.

i obviously get my information from a more reliable source than yours, since you are totally lacking in any understanding except for a few snippets.

seriously, what has boot.ini got to do with this? a PC is not called a windows-container for a reason, and its not so it doesnt sound like a toilet.

noob

 

[mapadale]

that message is part of the windows installer, and since hes seen it post has been passed.

and just because the hardware initalizes ok doesnt mean it wont short out because of something later on (like when its actually used), which would cause the computer to turn itself off instead of burning your house down.

i obviously get my information from a more reliable source than yours, since you are totally lacking in any understanding except for a few snippets.

seriously, what has boot.ini got to do with this? a PC is not called a windows-container for a reason, and its not so it doesnt sound like a toilet.

noob

As pointed out he's giving sparse information and you cant come to your conclusion from that - He's not stating if he's got his windows disk in or anything - So you tell me how you came to what you did from sparse information.

Cause you must be a genius - From the information he has givern I can pin point at least 15 faults and actions that have been caused - With more information gathered could point out more or less dependent on the information.

He's not stated wether its a branded machine or even if its a self built machine as this has to be taken into factor when diagnoiseing a fault.

So please don't tell me or Dreamscape that we know nothing, we are both HP/TOSHIBA/ACER credited hardware engineers and also Class 3 microsoft trained software engineers.

 

[emmille]

to thread creator - if mapadale's pc advice is as good as his cable / adsl advice, i would ignore him.

 

[Zidio]

Try get hold of another hard drive to test it with you may have bad sectors on your hard drive, Also your cd drive could be on its way out!

Had this problem before and changing the above worked for me.

 

[mapadale]

to thread creator - if mapadale's pc advice is as good as his cable / adsl advice, i would ignore him.

You best call DATAFORCE a liar also aint ya, seeing it was him that put me correct on the information that was supplyd on said subject on a previous thread. I gave up on the thread where you and someone else was quoting wikki for your information.

So shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I can post every step that is need to be taken to diagnoise a fault with any hardware if you like, including every procedue that 90% of all manufactures ask us the engineers to follow. So do me a favor stfu.

 

[Skunkmeister]

As pointed out he's giving sparse information and you cant come to your conclusion from that - He's not stating if he's got his windows disk in or anything - So you tell me how you came to what you did from sparse information.

Cause you must be a genius - From the information he has givern I can pin point at least 15 faults and actions that have been caused - With more information gathered could point out more or less dependent on the information.

He's not stated wether its a branded machine or even if its a self built machine as this has to be taken into factor when diagnoiseing a fault.

So please don't tell me or Dreamscape that we know nothing, we are both HP/TOSHIBA/ACER credited hardware engineers and also Class 3 microsoft trained software engineers.

dude, seriously, just shut up.

i know he had the windows install CD in because he said so

"1. Boot from CD
- I get the messange "Do you want to boot from DVD/CD press any key" once i press any key nothing happens after (the system crashes no error message )"

learn to read and you might not sound so stupid in future/every 5 seconds. now do you wanna lie any more go ahead, but its obviously not just me who can see straight though you. oh one more thing, its a real intelligent area to come barging into and start trying to make it up as you go along, i bet your the type of person who replaces his fuses with bits of tin-foil

"You must be a genius"

thankyou map, you must be psycic, my IQ is 176, high ehough that i infact AM a genius, not that it ever helped me READ any better than you can. next time READ before you post, if you think "how does he know the windows CD is in" look for why i think that, instead of asuming, how do you expect to give any meaningful advice when you havent read anything except that which you THINK needs flaming

"So please don't tell me or Dreamscape that we know nothing, we are both HP/TOSHIBA/ACER credited hardware engineers and also Class 3 microsoft trained software engineers."

yes... your a HARDware engineer thats also a SOFTware engineer, trained by microsoft...

map, thats it i cant take this anymore, i think you need help, serious help...

" 3. UnPlug HD and just boot from CD still nothing loads (system crash again)"

still think the HDD's the problem? wireless HDD? stupid delusional 3 year old who thinks hes a HARD\SOFTware engineer?

tell you what you go back to playing your games and ill go back to writing them, we all do what were good at, and you get saved the embarasement, ****... too late

:bbcguy:

 

[RedDragonX]

So please don't tell me or Dreamscape that we know nothing, we are both HP/TOSHIBA/ACER credited hardware engineers and also Class 3 microsoft trained software engineers.

You must be a pretty ****ty engineer then.

HD gone booooooooom??????????????

Idiot is the only word i can think of calling you.

Also I would advise running a DSP/DST in bios - this is a hard drive test, don't worry this can take upto 1 1/2hrs but best leave it 2hrs. Any longer and ur hdd is fooked.



Try all that and let me know how you go on.

lolololol

fool.

 

[mapadale]

dude, seriously, just shut up.

i know he had the windows install CD in because he said so

"1. Boot from CD
- I get the messange "Do you want to boot from DVD/CD press any key" once i press any key nothing happens after (the system crashes no error message )"

learn to read and you might not sound so stupid in future/every 5 seconds. now do you wanna lie any more go ahead, but its obviously not just me who can see straight though you. oh one more thing, its a real intelligent area to come barging into and start trying to make it up as you go along, i bet your the type of person who replaces his fuses with bits of tin-foil

"You must be a genius"

thankyou map, you must be psycic, my IQ is 176, high ehough that i infact AM a genius, not that it ever helped me READ any better than you can. next time READ before you post, if you think "how does he know the windows CD is in" look for why i think that, instead of asuming, how do you expect to give any meaningful advice when you havent read anything except that which you THINK needs flaming

"So please don't tell me or Dreamscape that we know nothing, we are both HP/TOSHIBA/ACER credited hardware engineers and also Class 3 microsoft trained software engineers."

yes... your a HARDware engineer thats also a SOFTware engineer, trained by microsoft...

map, thats it i cant take this anymore, i think you need help, serious help...

" 3. UnPlug HD and just boot from CD still nothing loads (system crash again)"

still think the HDD's the problem? wireless HDD? stupid delusional 3 year old who thinks hes a HARD\SOFTware engineer?

tell you what you go back to playing your games and ill go back to writing them, we all do what were good at, and you get saved the embarasement, ****... too late

:bbcguy:

Im so glad you can deduce something from nothing - I can put a CD in my CD/DVD drive and it will ask it to boot from said disk - This doesn't mean he's using a windows disk - I can do this with a blank disk ffs and still get the same message - so you really must be a genius.

I'm not going to say what the fault is and as I poitned out from the information provided there can be loads of faults and not pin pointed down to just a few ether.

Being a microsoft partner I have to be trained in software, but seeing as you seem to know everything then you would know this.

As for not reading what was put, I read it a bit better than what you did by all means.

You must be a pretty ****ty engineer then.

lolololol

fool.

No I'm one of the best engineers with the company I work for as all my fixes are first time.

By the way when you quote me and highlight what i write please dont laff at me, cause you make urself look like a fool.

And by the way most people know what a dst/dps is and if they don't they really dont need to any way as its self explsnarty.

 

[emmille]

You best call DATAFORCE a liar also aint ya, seeing it was him that put me correct on the information that was supplyd on said subject on a previous thread. I gave up on the thread where you and someone else was quoting wikki for your information.

So shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I can post every step that is need to be taken to diagnoise a fault with any hardware if you like, including every procedue that 90% of all manufactures ask us the engineers to follow. So do me a favor stfu.

i can to. All i have to do is google it just like you and pretend i know what im doing, however unlike you i can google properly!