national service?

[JoeAshton]

was taking at work to day with m8 and tbh i think all unemployed ppl should be made to do national service or go with out dole money as there contributing to nothing in the world what do u think?

also was talking about foreigner's ie, polish muslims and other immigrate and i want to know if any off u are reading this and now class ur self as a British citizen and a new world war started u would u fight for Britain as u live here u get free heath care(not the best but still free lol) and clam loads of taxs that could be used to improve are own kids lives would u fight or say no were not a British citizen anymore and balls out off it


if u would bottle it then

**** OFF OUT OF MY COUNTRY.....

dont spam cba with all ur bull **** reply on what u rly do think or like the bottlers go away and spam some were else.

 

[DeathsDoor]

"dnt care rly"

 

[Rachy]

How do you determine whos a dole dosser and who just cnt find a job, i know alot of people who would love to work but because of the immigration issue work is hard to come by because of the 24 hr european cheap labour coming in.

I think you my friend have been watching to much Jeremy Kyle, our grandfathers have worked to make our country stable for people who need to have the income support for hard times and we still work to help our fellow countryman. I'm sure you know someone who has been out of work for one reason or another and you wouldnt want them to starve because opportunity hasn't knocked at there door.
As for people who don't so much as want to get a job i think this is a very small minority and not one which you can judge the whole benefit system by, but even these youwill find for one reason or another don't want to work just for the sake of it.

As for national service, always a good idea, teach the kids discipline, make Britain good once again all good things.

 

[^G0trex]

i voted yes, although i think national service shud be brought back regardless of job or not, this country is going down the ****ter for various reasons, one being the lack of respect kids have for anyone and anything.

Every1 has to be the BEST or the HARDEST these days, if u want to be hard, go fight a war, that sorts the men from the little boys who go around getting pissed and starting fights.

Another 1 is the influx of imigrants we let in, i do often wonder, seeing as there is so many over here, mayb if i moved to one of thier countries would there be any1 left?

 

[Atomicide]

I think national service should be replaced with national AIDS contraction. So all the bleachers get AIDS and die cos the NHS should have the ability to deny them treatment.

**** national service and **** you.

NEXT QUESTION.

 

[JoeAshton]

How do you determine whos a dole dosser and who just cnt find a job, i know alot of people who would love to work but because of the immigration issue work is hard to come by because of the 24 hr european cheap labour coming in.

i found a job with out a problem there are loads off jobs just got be be rdy to do any thing to start with tbh. guy at local pub plays the mental card he gets 1.2k a month + house and all bills paid for all he dose is every now and then do some thing stupid like jump on a train then phone some ppl who who pay for him a taxi back his biggest bill so far is 150 pound
I think you my friend have been watching to much Jeremy Kyle, our grandfathers have worked to make our country stable for people who need to have the income support for hard times and we still work to help our fellow countryman. I'm sure you know someone who has been out of work for one reason or another and you wouldnt want them to starve because opportunity hasn't knocked at there door.
As for people who don't so much as want to get a job i think this is a very small minority and not one which you can judge the whole benefit system by, but even these youwill find for one reason or another don't want to work just for the sake of it.

As for national service, always a good idea, teach the kids discipline, make Britain good once again all good things.

i hate day time tv and that guy sucks balls lol not seen it in ages as i work is it still a springer wanna be still lololol
most ppl on the dole chose to be if i did not hate the idea and was lazy i would do same thing they get every thing handed on a plate for them

I think national service should be replaced with national AIDS contraction. So all the bleachers get AIDS and die cos the NHS should have the ability to deny them treatment.

**** national service and **** you.

NEXT QUESTION.

so let me guess ur 1 of the lazy bums or a foreigner then lol grow up and open ur door or once. o and btw go get aids u nab

 

[Miles]

Some how I very much doubt that would happen, and if it did I would be totally against it.

Firstly, there are always a lot of people who are against any war, and forcing them to fight is inhumane, and I think that if someone refuses to fight they can be jailed (I could be wrong there).

A good example is the Iraq war. A hell of a lot of people didn't want us to go to war in Iraq, and the evidence we were given was extremely flimsy (i.e. he had "weapons of mass destruction" which could reach the UK in under 30 minutes), and in a lot of peoples opinion the main reason for the war was OIL. Surely you can understand if someone didn't want to risk their life so that a rich American company can get even richer?

I also don't see how you could just make the unemployed do 'national service', that would be discriminatory, and no politician would support something like that. There is also the fact that someone people who are 'in between' jobs would be classed as 'unemployed', and you would have to include them in any 'national service'.

/Miles

 

[^G0trex]

Some how I very much doubt that would happen, and if it did I would be totally against it.

Firstly, there are always a lot of people who are against any war, and forcing them to fight is inhumane, and I think that if someone refuses to fight they can be jailed (I could be wrong there).

A good example is the Iraq war. A hell of a lot of people didn't want us to go to war in Iraq, and the evidence we were given was extremely flimsy (i.e. he had "weapons of mass destruction" which could reach the UK in under 30 minutes), and in a lot of peoples opinion the main reason for the war was OIL. Surely you can understand if someone didn't want to risk their life so that a rich American company can get even richer?

I also don't see how you could just make the unemployed do 'national service', that would be discriminatory, and no politician would support something like that. There is also the fact that someone people who are 'in between' jobs would be classed as 'unemployed', and you would have to include them in any 'national service'.

/Miles

people like u are the exact reason the UK is going down the pan! ur 2 soft!!

and they dont nessaceraly have to goto war, if there isnt a war on, then there lucky and just have to do training excersizes and stuff for a year.

 

[T0MMY]

All agreed with miles.

But i disagree with him in the national service bit.

Any imagrant should not cause any problems in this country if they did they should be fined. (includes the english to).

I agree that the youth is a bit out of control.

Am waiting for a new era lol where everyone does not fight and just use their mouth to debt not their hands and guns.

/Tom

 

[bestbet]

So you was "taking" at work. I see.

You're probably pissed because you failed your academic life , and lift bricks, so why not blame the immigrants; who can lift bricks better than you.

I hate fags like you who have no knowledge of the subject there trying to discuss and get inspired by another co-idiot to post **** like this.

 

[Prai]

Why should i fight for my country, When my country couldn't give a sh1t about me?

 

[JoeAshton]

Well said tbh ^G0trex

best bet ur a sad loner who fails at every thing in live oh and i dont lift bricks for a line i am an apprentices wood machinist .

if i was in charge of this country first thing i would do is all ppl who have been unemployed for over 3 moths is make them do service if they refuse stop there benefits they will soon run to the job center other than to collect there dole.

and would have border control not like 1 we have now a real 1 with armed men. to many fu*king immigrants is here now

and then theres ppl of other colours.

if i walked up to 1 and called 1 a paki i would be fined or some ****

yet if they called me a white tw*t there would be f**k all done about it
y u ask cuz pussy like miles and best bet don't give a f**k about this country any more hell think of how much money is wasted on u low life bums when it could be used in other places like the NHS.


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Prai u fight for ur country for a reason u think ppl in the 2 WW wanted to go ???
but they did and 90 % of them did it for the country there its called PRIDE go out side and find how many shops there are run by Asian's and polish now when theses could be used to employee
are own

 

[Prai]

What do you mean our own?

And yeah, if we walked up to a *Paki* and called them a *Paki* we would be done. The only reason why they are not prosecuted for calling us white trash or whatever is because were so stupid not to say anything.
Ever since The days of Slavery was rightfully ended, The words ******, Paki and others have been a Shock to people hearing it in public, The only reason i can think of why people can get away with calling others white trash is because we wasn't treat like dogs, In the way of slavery, its hard to explain but i know where im coming from.

And tbh, These people have more of a right to be here than your friend whos on the dole, Me personally have never seen a polish or an asian on the dole, They all have jobs. And The only reason people are saying there taking our jobs is because there taking the jobs others wont have, or will work for cheaper.. Dont like it? Go and cry about it, Because no one will ever listen to you, Your a racist and a Watanabe patriot.

I dont give a **** about this country. A Friend of mine is seriously ill, Well 3 of them all have the same illness, But ones worse, And the government dont want to know **** all about it, She has to rely on charities to help her live.

Im not proud to be British, When all our government do is lick ass of Bigger governments such as the US.

Thats why im getting out of here as soon as i can.

 

[bestbet]

Well said tbh ^G0trex

best bet ur a sad loner who fails at every thing in live oh and i dont lift bricks for a line i am an apprentices wood machinist .

if i was in charge of this country first thing i would do is all ppl who have been unemployed for over 3 moths is make them do service if they refuse stop there benefits they will soon run to the job center other than to collect there dole.

and would have border control not like 1 we have now a real 1 with armed men. to many fu*king immigrants is here now

and then theres ppl of other colours.

if i walked up to 1 and called 1 a paki i would be fined or some ****

yet if they called me a white tw*t there would be f**k all done about it
y u ask cuz pussy like miles and best bet don't give a f**k about this country any more hell think of how much money is wasted on u low life bums when it could be used in other places like the NHS.


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Prai u fight for ur country for a reason u think ppl in the 2 WW wanted to go ???
but they did and 90 % of them did it for the country there its called PRIDE go out side and find how many shops there are run by Asian's and polish now when theses could be used to employee
are own

In a country with a high percentage of educated and qualified populous there is no-one to do the dirty work,thus the need for immigrants you retarded waste of oxygen.

But, whats more pathetic is you call yourself a proud Brit when you don't even possess the skills to construct a proper sentence with at least a sight of punctuation or grammar.

You failed school, your gonna fail life and never ammount to anything. Don't worry though blame the immigrants, they are the reason for your miserable fail and attempt at success.

Educate yourself on this subject more please, then learn the ENGLISH language , then you may type your racist bullsh!t here.

 

[czeldabolg]

I'm confused on why a poll was made for this? I mean.. since when the hell did parlament visit LOMCN?

that's my overall point.

Hate people on the doll but they have to live aswell i suppose.



Ciao.

 

[^G0trex]

i love how ppl on here still arnt able to grasp the concept of NOT insulting each other, this thread is a debate...

when was the last time u saw gordon brown calling another member of parlement a Low life/Peice of ****/scumbag/loser etc?

I however agree with prai on the why should we fight for our country? and most Asain/Polish etc do have jobs, ur only anoyed ate the slim few who sponge of the benifits they recieve and how they twist "the system" n manage to drive nice cars, have nice houses. it winds me up 2, but what can u do.. there smart ill give them that.

 

[Colonel]

well i just come back from north yorkshire, Catterick and north hallington area where i was visiting family, and up there is a massive army influence on everyones lives. even in the house you can hear some of the training etc. but people up there either go to school leave school go to college get jobs etc or they join the army. literally i walked passed the job centre and it was empty, where as ill walk passed the job centre where i live and theres people outside smoking and a flow of people in n out.

id say if people between 19 and 30 who have been on the doll for 1year or more who are medically fit should be forced into national service in some way, you dont have to hold a gun you can drive lorries fix lorries be an electrician plummer pilot whatever, over there they have to have campsites where they go back to so they build little towns essentialy. if you cant get a job in a year theres something seriously fuking wrong youre not contributing to society and your just as much of a burdun on the country as a fuking gipsy. and if foreigners come to this country to live they should be forced to become a british citizen.

and btw miles in WWI and II if some one refused to fight who was in national service they were shot, if some one was shellshocked they were shot, if some one commited treason they were shot. these days you can buy yourself out of the army so there isnt much of a problem, although if people were forced into national service their right to buy themselves out would have to be taken away from them for a certain period of time.

 

[Atomicide]

In all seriousness I am against the idea of National Service for the unemployed. The problem with it is, in some area's there are a lot of lazy scrotes who are unemployed and spend their dole money on drinking and buying knives to stab each other with. The last thing this country needs is the army taking these ****s and training them how to kill. I know the army "installs discipline" and all that, but as soon as they leave, they will forget the discipline part, and remember the more violent part.

The latest current thing I've read about it is getting the long-term unemployed into community service jobs like cleaning graffiti and picking up litter etc, its theoretically a good idea, but it'll be retardedly expensive to do so, because after 2 weeks they will realise their doing a fulltime job for £45 a week, and a court case will be launched. The courts will then rule that they have to be paid a full-time wage for what they are doing, and as a result, there will either be spending cuts, or tax hikes for everyone that does work legitimately.

People who refuse to work will still get money one way or another, cos places here in Northern Ireland have tonnes of unemployed people who are never going to work regardless of anything. The government isn't going to let towns like these end up with loads of people living on the streets cos that would be worse than the current situation.

All of this applies to British people only anyway, cos the asylum seekers won't be forced into the military/community service cos it would violate their human rights, and the government would have to pay them compensation for distress on top of the £1000's they give them for climbing onto the back of a lorry and living here illegally.

 

[MasterQ]

All of this applies to British people only anyway, cos the asylum seekers won't be forced into the military/community service cos it would violate their human rights, and the government would have to pay them compensation for distress on top of the £1000's they give them for climbing onto the back of a lorry and living here illegally.

I think them sort of rules should be stripped from them when entering the country, i think that is the main problem myself. The country is changing for people who come into the country not for the people who have been here for hundreds of years and who have died for it.

Colonel did you see them all in town on Thursday night? Dunno what the army calls it but they get paid and all go out on the piss on thursday nights lol.

 

[JoeAshton]

id say if people between 19 and 30 who have been on the doll for 1year or more who are medically fit should be forced into national service in some way, you dont have to hold a gun you can drive lorries fix lorries be an electrician plummer pilot whatever, over there they have to have campsites where they go back to so they build little towns essentialy. if you cant get a job in a year theres something seriously fuking wrong youre not contributing to society and your just as much of a burdun on the country as a fuking gipsy. and if foreigners come to this country to live they should be forced to become a british citizen.

only problem with that is that most dole dossers are not the smartest ppl in there world as seen with ppl on here so would be hard to train them for things other than how to hold a gun lolol