Yeah the Comptia A+. All free and paid for by the company, not a bad starting point!
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Yeah the Comptia A+. All free and paid for by the company, not a bad starting point!
Yes, well done. As i said a degree i enjoy rather than one for a top salary. Had i wanted to study Maths/Geography or a Science (most likely a form of biology) at university i'm sure it wouldn't have been an issue.
I've (also) acknowledged i'm not guaranteed a job, and never said it makes me better than everyone else -- i've also managed to hold onto a part time (now seasonally employed) job for 4 years, whilst also working others and volunteering in numerous locations such as schools/charity work/etc. Whilst living away from my rents/paying bills/etc etc from the age of 18 without dole money, even those on the dole still rarely move away from their rents. I'd rather not give my life story, but don't talk crap you're clearly just taking from nowhere, maybe i'm arrogant, but if you'd stop attempting to judge me it'd make the whole thread alot easier.
You think you can spend a term writing on the history, concept, practioners, circumstances, science and so forth of the naturalist movement, something which is evident in EVERYTHING we read/watch/know about daily life whilst getting a reasonable mark? Then go for it. Similarly if you think you know enough about the Post Classical Hollywood era, the films of the seventies that shaped modern film, or are all clued up in the limited methods of animation so crucial to the production of anime that so many of you are fans of then clearly you should be on my course and coming out with a first. If not, which i assume you dont then quit the crap mate. Even then anyone can learn if they put their mind to it (well at least the majority can) it's being able to apply it in a quality research paper or diseration that gets you through uni. Which brings me full circle to my initial point - that university is the academics way into a beneficial industry, be that income, satisfaction or both.
I'll finish with the point that if you want to quote my posts please thoroughly read the whole post/thread because 90% of this epic essay of a post was me repeating myself.
(Oh and I ignored Zoni's post initially as the majority of us know he just looked like a right royal tit. Good job man.)
/Gand
PS - Just wanted to say cheers to the LOMCN community for providing the most epic debate/flame threads you'd find on any forum, its the reason i bet many of us continue to return
You ignored my post as well sweetcakes.
Kadama said:
Too true...
I think i answered it in the post previous to that one you quoted, 'sweetcakes.' However i hardly see any question/point there for me to answer that i havn't already mentioned somwhere -- unless your asking me what a NVQ is equivalent too (yet that was addressed to everybody).
Of all the staff in the Bannatyne's i work, most have been to university in the past few years year studying sports science and so forth and are using it as a step of experience to progress onto higher positions. Whilst the others have several fitness nvqs and other qualifications to make up for this -- such as diet & nutrition, personal training, class instructor, etc. Yet none of them were employed with no qualifications (each has at least an NVQ or degree) and simply based on experience.
But that's just an example i know of; perhaps those that do go to uni and get the jobs over those that didnt study are just fluke?
/Gand
Right, cos obviously anyone who doesn't go to university is an idiot without prospects; and the only possible and realistic explanation for them doing well in life is purely down to chance and luck.
Your ignorance is actually quite shocking.
Did i say that in my post? Did i say that in any of my posts come to think about it? No. Infact i have commented enough times saying you can, and people do succeed without going to university by taking other qualifications, having work experience, or generally having a good work ethic.
I think it's your ignorance that is quite shocking. Don't comment again on my posts you clearly don't read them thoroughly, therefore i won't bother replying to you again if you're not going to read them. I can see im clearly wasting my time and effort.
/Gand
Got an NVQ lv.2 in railway engineering, unemployed at the minute as there's not much work about. Plan on going to university this year and working part time on the rail if i can get work. Should keep me going as it's really good pay
In so many words? Ofcourse not. You merely implied it with the following comment:
Xanan said:
Thus suggesting that this is a more common scenario than not.
Xanan said:
Funny, I must have missed those posts...
Xanan said:
Why are you trying to save face now? If you're going to make such arrogant statements as what I have quoted at the top of this post then you need to have the balls to follow them up or you'll simply be another spineless faggot who nobody listens to.
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Implication is a matter of perception, you've clearly read my posts in a negative attitude therefore your approach to them will be to pick at them and distance yourself from any logical agreement with them.
My second quote was a sarcastic response to those that have been saying, "There's no point in university -- you have more job potential without it." I replied to an argument stating university is a pointless step towards a career? I fail to see why you quoted it, or the third quote either. In which i state an agreement to an (or an) opinion that studying (in any form) or working hard is better than just being dole scum, and still offers many the career/job they wish for.
I'm impressed with your dedication to try and belittle me to nothing more than an arrogant tosser. But in my eyes im failing to see your point. Every point i've made i've reinforced or reworded for clearer understanding where needed. As i have on this post; Infact i've spent far too much time replying to your negative flames. I'll repeat my request, yet reword it slightly for your own benefit. Don't quote my posts, or try and degrade/belittle me if you're clearly not even attempting to read them open mindedly. You're so tunnel visioned with flaming me its affecting your judgements.
/Gand
A negative attitude which was thrust upon me by your previous posts themselves. First impressions are everything. If I'm reading your posts in a bad light then you have only yourself to blame.
Now you say it was sarcastic, yet you failed to mention that in your earlier argument. Again, trying to save face. However I don't doubt that there was indeed an element of sarcasm to the comment, yet it is also evident that you believe it to be more true than false, otherwise you wouldn't have bothered with it.
Xanan said:
You asked me to, remember?
Xanan said:
Xanan said:
As much as that does "get me off", it would appear that that is already the general consensus around here...
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A negative attitude which was thrust upon me by your previous posts themselves. First impressions are everything. If I'm reading your posts in a bad light then you have only yourself to blame.
Now you say it was sarcastic, yet you failed to mention that in your earlier argument. Again, trying to save face. However I don't doubt that there was indeed an element of sarcasm to the comment, yet it is also evident that you believe it to be true more than false, otherwise you wouldn't have bothered with it.
You asked me to, remember?
As much as that does "get me off", it would appear that that is already the general consensus around here...
Do you get a kick out of arguing?
Anyway, I couldn't care less, so... please do continue.
What do I do, good question. I'm still in college so I study or revise most of the time - or if im bored either go out, program some stuff on MS VB or C++ (takes longer but worth it lol) or play mir, which is also fun.
I get money from working with my father, managing chemicals and formulae and so forth - sometimes abit of AutoCAD work... or just moving things about. Applying for a job later on in life, I'm not in desperate need of money at the moment.
And that's about it.
If your viewing me in a negative light, then that is your own judgement, you cannot blame me for stating a point you dont agree with. Whilst i do also admit there a select handful that don't always agree with me, those often being the opinionated posters with whom i disagree with on alot of topics and therefore argue their points - yet i don't view them as negative posts, simply a conflict of views.A negative attitude which was thrust upon me by your previous posts themselves. First impressions are everything. If I'm reading your posts in a bad light then you have only yourself to blame.
Now you say it was sarcastic, yet you failed to mention that in your earlier argument. Again, trying to save face. However I don't doubt that there was indeed an element of sarcasm to the comment, yet it is also evident that you believe it to be more true than false, otherwise you wouldn't have bothered with it.
You asked me to, remember?
As much as that does "get me off", it would appear that that is already the general consensus around here...
Furthermore I hearby apologise for not stating when sarcasm was used in my posts. I somewhat felt that was the point in it? Yet if it was also slightly evident then where lies the confusion? Never mind. Yet i do believe those that go to university or study elsewhere are more likely to end up in the jobs they aim for than those that don't study, so yes i still agree with the point i made.
Whilst the quote that you 'remembered,' was a pointless example - hence my lack of understanding in its reference?
Enjoy.
/Gand
Oh and i think he does Koriban, hah.
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If your viewing me in a negative light, then that is your own judgement, you cannot blame me for stating a point you dont agree with. Whilst i do also admit there a select handful that don't always agree with me, those often being the opinionated posters with whom i disagree with on alot of topics and therefore argue their points - yet i don't view them as negative posts, simply a conflict of views.
Furthermore I hearby apologise for not stating when sarcasm was used in my posts. I somewhat felt that was the point in it? Yet if it was also slightly evident then where lies the confusion? Never mind. Yet i do believe those that go to university or study elsewhere are more likely to end up in the jobs they aim for than those that don't study, so yes i still agree with the point i made.
Whilst the quote that you 'remembered,' was a pointless example - hence my lack of understanding in its reference?
Enjoy.
/Gand
My point was that you made it sound like I was being irrational with regards to your post, but if I was then it was only due to your posts which preceded it, as opposed to a flaw in my usual rationality.
Again, you've misconstrued what I was saying about sarcasm.
Orphanmaker1 said:
This does not mean "you failed to label your so-called sarcastic comment as sarcastic at the time of making it". It means you failed to mention it in your succeeding post whereby we were discussing it. Only a post later did you claim it to be sarcasm.
The quote wasn't remotely pointless as it has indeed proved my point.
Enjoy.
I admit my posts may have 'egged' you on abit, but i do feel your preset judgement on me are also partly to blame in any argumentative post i recieved in response. Fair cop?
There was an element of sarcasm, in the comment on it being fluke. Yet i didnt mention this straight away as the core point behind the post i still stand by regarding education/qualifications etc.
I take it back, i've re-read the post you made (the one will all the quotes in) and yes i can now understand the quote -- yet you have to understand by using the university example, it was merely that, an example that i can relate to. It could be applied to any form of qualification thats valid and of a highly regarded, the lack of understanding in my choice of example is my fault i'll admit.
My confusion with your choice of quoting , hence my asking why, comes from me reading the wrong line with the wrong quote. I thought each was a comment on each of the quotes.
I read it, "Thus suggesting that this is a more common scenario than not.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xanan
Infact i have commented enough times saying you can, and people do succeed without going to university by taking other qualifications, having work experience, or generally having a good work ethic."
Either way, this is turning into a debate on the relevance of quoting (my bad), and has been dragged out far too long. I think i've exhausted it.
/Gand
Medieval and Early Modern History at Aberystwyth University. In my free time I.. Well I'm 20 and a student, you can probably guess.
