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nice mate, my stepdad used to work as a consultant for capgemini for aaaages went up inside the company a few years ago he left to be the director for the england side of another consultancy company using oracle
good money im unsure about what to do, almost finished my degree in business management lol so who knows what il do
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How much you been paid hell if you don;t mind me asking?
i do 2nd/3rd line support and massively underpaid...!
£19,500.
Trying to push it up, to at least £22,000, and so is my boss to be fair to him, but the company is struggling a little so they have set stupidly tight budgets which is making it hard to make any changes to wages.
Was offered a new job at £21,000, but that was slightly different to what I'm doing now... And don't just want to jump for money.
I know, right!
I wanna get into 1st line support right now (just left college) & work my way up.
Wouldn't mind about the pay (jobless sucks!).
Jesus mate, that is badly underpaid for S2/3 support. I was on 17k for S1 support, which was serverly underpaid for the company I was working for. So had to leave as couldn't continue to be paid at that rate, especially with the cost of living the way it is now.
If the company is struggling, the worse you can do is stay with them until they go under, if at they go under. As getting a new job in a similar role in Sheffield is a bloody nightmare, I went for an interview about 6 weeks ago and they told me about how hard it has been for them as well. For a simple S1 position, they where getting something like 5000+ applications for it and a good 70% of them were over qualified for the job.
It's a struggling time at the moment in IT.
If you want to get into IT, you don't go to Uni as it's a waste of your time and money. Most companies won't employ someone straight out of Uni, as the lack of people skills and experience for the job.
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In your opinion/area? I plan to go to Uni.. I have a years experience working in IT Support, your telling me I shouldnt bother?
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well i think if you wanna go uni then you should cos theres no point turning down that opportunity if you have the chance to do it go uni liammc10 dont be silly and decide not to go cause of what mapadale is saying theres always gonna be companys that are not able to take certain people on cause they are over qualified its just that they have to pay you more cause of the qualifications and they aint willing to do that however you can negotiate on a wage if theres a chance of you getting the jobs i know plenty of people that have done this.
What he said; I figured it out after my first year of college.
Experience in the real world > a certificate proving you can solve some hypothetical problems.
I wouldn't bother. I never went to college or Uni, just simply pushed me way through the door.
IT is all about experience and certificates. Get a job in IT and take the exams to gain certificates, even better if like my company they will pay for your exams/training.
Uni is a waste of time if you want to get into IT as they don't specialise in the correct qualifications to get you to a position within the IT industry where you can potentially earn 100k+.
By all means if your looking to go towards web design or that area, then yes uni is good for this. But to do things such as networking, network administration or anything along those lines. Then Uni is a waste of time, the best you will get form Uni is a computer science degree and guess what I got that when I was at school, though back then it was known as a GNVQ.
If your looking at solaris or that side of administration, then going through uni is also a good option.
I was sat on train last year going to work, when I heard a guy talking to his mate on phone about going for a network administration job with a salary of 56k. He had just completed uni and was expecting to get the job, I bust out laughing when he said. He asked me what I was laughing at, so I told him he just wasted a good part of 4 years of his life for nothing if that was the role he was looking at. He asked me why, so I told him I would have more of a chance of getting the job in the field than he would as I had the experience in that position and was working towards the correct qualification for it.
If you want to get your foot into the door at a base level in IT and start on around 16k per year, then do the following.
Gain 2 MCP's - The easeist way to gain these is to "Self Study" for your MCDST - 70-271 & 70-272
The exams will cost you around £80/£90 to do, but it's a better step than having to work your way from the bottom up, as this can be a very long and hard slog to get up.
Once you are in the door, you need to think about the route you want to go. Myself I'm doing networking, but I'm not sticking to just Microsoft qualification, I'm also doing my Cisco as well. Also don't be put off by what people say or how they influence you in what you do, at the end of the day it is your choice to take the path you want in IT, but I would recommend that you look hard at what you want to do though as this will be the job you do for the rest of your life, unless you go into consultancy.
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Just to give an opposite side of the argument I did my 3 years of uni.
Walked into 19.5k and I've been working for 2 years and I'm now on 24k and I've done a number of specialised qualifications all paid for by my company.
Yeh there might have been other options and possibly greater rewards but my years in uni were the best of my life.
Wouldn't do it any differently.
Walked into 19.5k and I've been working for 2 years and I'm now on 24k and I've done a number of specialised qualifications all paid for by my company.
Yeh there might have been other options and possibly greater rewards but my years in uni were the best of my life.
Wouldn't do it any differently.