Who's here waiting for a good server?

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daneo1989

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i think people are going well of topic this thread isnt about donation's this thread is about people are waiting for a good server to arise.

currently waiting for a good server all the servers atm are bollox best online atm is 4H
 

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Dedi's give the server owners reason/excuse to ask for donations.

Would I put up a server on a dedi knowing it's going to cost ME money? No.
Why? Because why go for something you can't afford on your own.

Why on gods earth do people go to run a server knowing they don't have they're OWN money to pay for the costs and expect it off other people.

Enough said.

Donation = bad.
Non donation = good.
enough said? hardly

stop trying to push your opinions on ppl thinkin your right........ no1 is gonna 100% agree on the donation topic, every1 has their own opinion, so just leave it at that

fact is donations help servers run for a long time, theres not been any non-donation servers that last over 6months, so qq



i think people are going well of topic this thread isnt about donation's this thread is about people are waiting for a good server to arise.

currently waiting for a good server all the servers atm are bollox best online atm is 4H

totaly agree, as usual its some idiot like anonlol always bangin on about donations and takin it off topic.

on topic:

i think id rather do a low/med ish rate server if i done 1 again, 4H LR style
 

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i think id rather do a low/med ish rate server if i done 1 again, 4H LR style

You shouldn't say that.
Within a few days the rumour shall spread, that you are actually making one.
Then aswell as all the other questions you get, this shall be another.

Low/Med servers have never really worked. Not since the creation of easy leveling servers, where achieving things takes about an hour. :drool1:
 

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All I said was that I'm not interested in another of your P2P servers Ben, you're the one that gets defensive every time. I must be onto something else you wouldnt fly into a rage at every small comment I make, not to mention banning me off FH, lol.
 

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no point doing a lr ben unless preachers running it, low rate with donations are silly :/
 

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Ragezone 1.9 and 2.3 were up for well over a year with no donations but things have changed for the worse now:sad:

Forgot about 1.4 that was non donation and was up around about a year.

fact is donations help servers run for a long time.

That's because it's going into the server owners pocket. (the profit)
Hence why I don't agree with Donation servers.

theres not been any non-donation servers that last over 6months

Again you fail, there's been quite alot of server's in the past (from 2002-2010) that I know of that have been up longer than 6months and non-donation so get some facts before you post bullcrap like that again.


Med/High rates have always been the most fun, LR have been slow, boring and as much fun as having a pin stuck in your ass while sitting down.
 

daneo1989

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Forgot about 1.4 that was non donation and was up around about a year.



That's because it's going into the server owners pocket. (the profit)
Hence why I don't agree with Donation servers.



Again you fail, there's been quite alot of server's in the past (from 2002-2010) that I know of that have been up longer than 6months and non-donation so get some facts before you post bullcrap like that again.


Med/High rates have always been the most fun, LR have been slow, boring and as much fun as having a pin stuck in your ass while sitting down.
oh please tell me what server has been online since 2002-2010 WITHOUT donations only server been running that long is Project69 and that has donation list.
 

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oh please tell me what server has been online since 2002-2010 WITHOUT donations only server been running that long is Project69 and that has donation list.

I didn't say A server has been up since 2002, I said from 2002 to 2010 there's been many servers been online longer than a the six months ben is saying and they didn't have donations.

Again you fail, there's been quite alot of server's in the past (from 2002-2010) that I know of that have been up longer than 6months and non-donation so get some facts before you post bullcrap like that again.

there it is in red for you to read.
 

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Ragezone 1.9 and 2.3 were up for well over a year with no donations but things have changed for the worse now:sad:
he still got some sort of income from it

That's because it's going into the server owners pocket. (the profit)
Hence why I don't agree with Donation servers.

Again you fail, there's been quite alot of server's in the past (from 2002-2010) that I know of that have been up longer than 6months and non-donation so get some facts before you post bullcrap like that again.

Med/High rates have always been the most fun, LR have been slow, boring and as much fun as having a pin stuck in your ass while sitting down.
So u expect the server owner to put in hours of work every day for a bunch of ungrateful whiny kids? admitingly there are some really nice grateful ppl, but most of them are plonkers like anonlol.

Its same old story, your just 1 of these ppl that bangs on about wantin a non-donation server, so why dont YOU go and make 1? then see how easy it is for u to run a server for a year gainin nothing from it, probably losin ur own money thro hosting costs.

i fail? sorry, im talkin about servers that actually achive a usercount of over 40 here. not servers like LOCMS that yes, was up for a good 5years but never had over 25 users, majority of time had 5 users, 3 of which were probably u, thats what u call a FAIL server.


so ye, go ahead, name these legendary servers that have been up so long w/o donations, and we'll all lol at them.



You shouldn't say that.
Within a few days the rumour shall spread, that you are actually making one.
Then aswell as all the other questions you get, this shall be another.

Low/Med servers have never really worked. Not since the creation of easy leveling servers, where achieving things takes about an hour. :drool1:
oh ye forgot this was mir and how fast news spreads and rumours start :lol1:

low/med servers work if u have the usercount, fh LR imo was well fun for 1st month or 2, but after that the hype sorta died down and the low rate set in, of slower levelin, harder to get items etc... it does get abit boring

only way for a low rate to suvive really is for a big user count for lots of fights
 

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How are Low Rates not fun? Bloody lazy ****s.

Can't remember the name, sadly, but me and Kani was playing a Low Rate with Nicola (yes, a woman!) hosting it. It lasted about 3-4months, but was brought down due to Nicola's bf exploiting it so she didn't want to continue. And that was FUN. It had a usercount of about 40-50 and, fights were good... lvling and achieving something was good. There was a motive to lvl all the time, which is incredibly important.

Low rates can be fantastic, but as mentioned you need A) Usercount B) Decent ideas and C) A trusted host

High Rates are brilliant but just become repetitive and boring in no time at all. Never enough input to make people want to keep lvling and fighting, then it becomes insanely unbalanced... you get the picture.

Best of both? Med Rate. Can't go wrong really, just make it fun =/

I'd be happy to see a new Med rate tbh.
 

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How are Low Rates not fun? Bloody lazy ****s.

Can't remember the name, sadly, but me and Kani was playing a Low Rate with Nicola (yes, a woman!) hosting it. It lasted about 3-4months, but was brought down due to Nicola's bf exploiting it so she didn't want to continue. And that was FUN. It had a usercount of about 40-50 and, fights were good... lvling and achieving something was good. There was a motive to lvl all the time, which is incredibly important.

Low rates can be fantastic, but as mentioned you need A) Usercount B) Decent ideas and C) A trusted host

High Rates are brilliant but just become repetitive and boring in no time at all. Never enough input to make people want to keep lvling and fighting, then it becomes insanely unbalanced... you get the picture.

Best of both? Med Rate. Can't go wrong really, just make it fun =/

I'd be happy to see a new Med rate tbh.

SoulSlayer? only ones with para? :p was a n1 day camping oks heh
 

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I'd like to see Ben create a real medium rate server. OldSkool at the beginning (Before he lowered exp needed to level and introduced X5 x10 x20 pots) was the best server I've played. You had mega geeks level 80-90 trying to reach Rebirth level and most of the server happily trailing around 65-70. Luck 10 wasn't ingame at this point so fights were fair through and through and stats weren't ridiculous. To have high stats you had low AC AMC or legendary kit which was extremely rare. It took months for the first OldSkool item to drop ingame. The sub-class system was clever as ****, being able to change your sub-class via rebuild as well made the game fun. It varied, if you wanted to be an assassin (Warrior) with high DC but you were a knight with lower DC and super AC AMC you'd simply go into rebuild level back up a bit gain some extra DC and have the better DC but almost no AC AMC. Same for wizards you were either a tank but low damage or a demon dieing in 1-2 hits. Speed cheats weren't a problem at beginning of the server, less people knew about them and it was much more fun. However the flood of speed in mir has made it die faster imo.

Yet this was a medium rate server for the most and best part. If ben recreated OldSkool at the beginning with new features such as Assassin class and others like BV and GV fights the server would be unbeatable. He just needs to make sure it stays medium rate and not let people donate for x10 x20 x30 pots which ruined the server completely. The marriage system was awesome, babies were the best levellers and balanced levelling for all classes. There were so many different types of kit and nothing was worth more than a couple of bil. It turned into trillions and instead of max level 95 the top became 130, 140, 150, 160, 170+ due to mass donations and bosses dropping ridiculous. Yes we all complain about drop rates on FourHeroes as its obvious about 75% of items are donated. As well as most high levels have either donated exp pots or earned money to buy exp pots ingame. I also enjoyed how low exp pots dropped ingame on OldSkool such as x1.5 x2 x2.5 x3 they were rare but worth it by a mile yet levelling on x1 exp wasn't a struggle as it is on Four Heroes. Ben just needs to understand that he lets donations rule the server far too much, moderation is the key to success.
 

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Close this post TBH....

And why exactly? Because most of them have actually stated what type of server they'd look for, or because you can't be bothered to read those facts?

Don't ask for closures and things that don't need to be closed, that'd just be killing it fullstop. Realise what you say before you post, oh and you may wish to change your picture. It just makes you look like a racist moron to those that don't realise the discussion going on in France.

/Czeldabolg
 

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no1s denyin ben doesnt make good servers, i like um altho me n ben dont get on now i played all of his servers apart from the high rate four heroes but they do get "unbalanced" due to donations, maybe it effects me more than most cause i wanna be the guy with the best kit and best lvls and so someone comin on buyin lvls n kit to be same as me would piss me off lol.
 

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id be up for making a med rate server. i could host on my home pc, but that then means i cant use the internet for my own use, so there for i would do a donations system for a dedi pc so i could use my own home pc for other things.

There is that but then there is also, i cant use variables in npc scripsts so they would be very basic >< i cant code so couldnt do a 2.6 server an atm 2.3 wont get many players online. and then mpas (although i would learn maps) but all in all i couldnt use my pc so yeah i would like a bit of "£" to try cover my electric and also to look at other aspects aswel.

Tbh the best serrvers are low rates, but theres not really much difference between high rate servers an low rates. once you hit a high level on a high rate you grind to get higher. same as low rate, just low rates seem to be generally more balanced due to items etc.
 
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