Mining (Gm Answer please)

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Ninje

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Mining as of late has gone very hard to get anything. I can understand luck but constant mining for days and getting hardly anything is not right.
I also know we have a macro problem and if you have ninja changed something it would only be fair to let the real players know.

If mining has been changed to a less % to get anything worth keeping then for the love of god change the gem making %rate aswell . as failing so much on 90-91% is bad and also failed on 98% is crazy.
You try rolling a 10 sided dice ot even runnig a 1-10 random number generator and see how hard it is to roll a 10 but in making gems it happens far too often.

If you want the auto macro bots gone just appear in mines u will see them and just get rid of them takes less time then re-programming mining

Anyway if you have changed nothing please can you take alook at the problem

Thanks in advance

Just want to add that it is very very annoying to try mining the p15+ gold and plat and marbles just to fail on 90-99%
 
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Kinneas

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I really don't like that even with 5 "optional" ores, your chances of success are still only 85-95% (unless you find some really good puri base ores). Having a gem fail to create with a 95% success rate is just balls.

It does add insult to injury when you mined all day for one bit of ore as well.

Honestly I don't know why the decision was made to not allow "afk" mining anyway. With the way it worked before, you still had to come back to the keyboard to empty the crap ore out of your bag every now and then.
 

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i mined for 6 hours stright b4 and all i got was 1 plat puri 15 .. and 10 adamantine ore ... that is no joke 1 plat ... i didnt even get any low puri plat .. and i was also using 3 chars to mine .. i dont have a marco so i was there controlling all the chars watched a few movies haha

think the chances of getting ores needs upping a bit.. but the chances of getting amathist ore is crazy u easerly get LOADS of that .. and wen i say loads i mean a good bag full b4 u get anything else =/ can u look into it plz thanks :)
 

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why up the amount of ore you get? dont you people understand you'll just crash the price of the ores and gems...= more ore but same amount of money made.
 

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why up the amount of ore you get? dont you people understand you'll just crash the price of the ores and gems...= more ore but same amount of money made.


Well i dont think its a up of ore . but fix it so its like it was 2 days ago.. because as of now its not working right.

And unless u want ore to go up to 10mill for 1x plat then u wanna hope it gets fixed. because i am no way slapping a wall for 10 hours to get 1 bit of ore.
 

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Don't want team to have to come in game to police it. More important things to do. Check for big cheating/exploits and ban people yes run around mines booting people who will be back in a few hours is pointless. Mining should be tedious and unrewarding anyway. Don't see why people get rewarded for standing still hitting a wall
 

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Don't want team to have to come in game to police it. More important things to do. Check for big cheating/exploits and ban people yes run around mines booting people who will be back in a few hours is pointless. Mining should be tedious and unrewarding anyway. Don't see why people get rewarded for standing still hitting a wall
Mining should be unrewarding? are u serious the whole point of mining is to be "rewarded" with Plat, Gold, etc... No mining means no BIO for refines, No gold or Plat for gems. Your saying they having more important things to be doing, but 1 of the most important things which is constantly overlooked by many GM's these days is Player satisfaction, If the players aren't happy then they will just quit and sooner or later the server will die. But hey you know best by sounds of it. That's my 2 pence anyway
 

Ninje

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Don't want team to have to come in game to police it. More important things to do. Check for big cheating/exploits and ban people yes run around mines booting people who will be back in a few hours is pointless. Mining should be tedious and unrewarding anyway. Don't see why people get rewarded for standing still hitting a wall

Thank you for your input , next time we will be talking about the subject at hand.
 

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I really don't like that even with 5 "optional" ores, your chances of success are still only 85-95% (unless you find some really good puri base ores). Having a gem fail to create with a 95% success rate is just balls.

It does add insult to injury when you mined all day for one bit of ore as well.

Honestly I don't know why the decision was made to not allow "afk" mining anyway. With the way it worked before, you still had to come back to the keyboard to empty the crap ore out of your bag every now and then.
Why is it?

95% is not guaranteed to work. Ok 5% is a small chance, but that chance is still there.

I personally have not had one fail to build when it's around the 90% mark.
 

Kinneas

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Why is it?

95% is not guaranteed to work. Ok 5% is a small chance, but that chance is still there.

I personally have not had one fail to build when it's around the 90% mark.

That's my point, if you have put the maximum number of ore you can in, I don't think there should be any chance of it failing. If you want to take a chance, don't put as much Adamantine in.

I'm aware that 95% is not guaranteed to work. My point is that I can't increase those odds anymore unless I happen to find a Puri 20 plat and Neph. It's annoying.

I'm glad you haven't had any fail. I've had over 10 fail now with 90%+ chances.
 

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personaly i find mining fine as is, have mind on 3 accounts with 4 picks each and gotten out 12 bits on plat first time (only 1 of pur 12+) and then second time today i got 9 bits (6 of which pur 12+) so i don't see an issue its just chance and you have had some bad time is all.

in respect of gem failing i no longer do ANY gems with a higher then 94% chance to work as out of the 10+ times i have tryed them they all failed but 89-94% always seem to work, well more like 4 out of 5 work but i do agree that the breaking chance to make a gem seems far damn higher then the chance for a gem to fail or break an item tho!
 

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So far plat is so hard to get had 3 in 24 hour one pur 3/8/12 but I've not had a single gem fail I been doing at the 60% mark
 

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ive made about 20 gems in the past 10 days..as well as sold like 8 p.12+ plat ores. of all that ive had 1 gem fail to make. I dont see a problem..Only dumb part if that people abused mining so that it had to be changed to how it is now, having to move spots every 30sec-1minute.
 

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Going to see what I get today been at it a hour so far not one plat ore but got 4 adamant ore

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Going to see what I get today been at it a hour so far not one plat ore but got 4 adamant ore
6 adamant 3 plat pur 3/4/7 lol fail
 

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Mining as of late has gone very hard to get anything. I can understand luck but constant mining for days and getting hardly anything is not right.
I also know we have a macro problem and if you have ninja changed something it would only be fair to let the real players know.

If mining has been changed to a less % to get anything worth keeping then for the love of god change the gem making %rate aswell . as failing so much on 90-91% is bad and also failed on 98% is crazy.
You try rolling a 10 sided dice ot even runnig a 1-10 random number generator and see how hard it is to roll a 10 but in making gems it happens far too often.

If you want the auto macro bots gone just appear in mines u will see them and just get rid of them takes less time then re-programming mining

Anyway if you have changed nothing please can you take alook at the problem

Thanks in advance

Just want to add that it is very very annoying to try mining the p15+ gold and plat and marbles just to fail on 90-99%

no offense but i find mining great....getting 5+ plats per day and much more adamantine ore

tbh never failed making a gem when used 5adamantines
 

spawn1979

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Going to see what I get today been at it a hour so far not one plat ore but got 4 adamant ore

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6 adamant 3 plat pur 3/4/7 lol fail
That's 3 hours and I got plat pur 6

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That's 3 hours and I got plat pur 6
6 hours mineing only got one put 12 plat that's crazy
 

Ninje

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Im not going to argue with anyone im just stating a fact that since i am there maybe the most on the server i know something has changed or is wrong from how it was 4-5 days ago.

Which is fine for the auto botters because they do nothing so what ever they get is a bonus.

I say make mining hard so its harder to macro . anyone thats not botting wont mind all i want is to be rewarded for the hours i put in the same as people who camp bosses they get rerwarded in the end.

So lets leave it now for a Games Master to reply and say whats changed.
 

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If you want to make it much harder to bot/macro, maybe change it so that whenever you would get an ore, you have to click a confirmation box?
 

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If you want to make it much harder to bot/macro, maybe change it so that whenever you would get an ore, you have to click a confirmation box?
would make no difference, u just include the click of the box with the macro