Tonights update...

[GaryOak]

as with tu, your nefring it on the basis it works to well but you fail to see that its only working so well as getting high luck on here is easyish, TU with luck 0-2 is nasty unless you are much higher than the mob you are casting TU on. also a list of the mobs that can be tu able and not tuable would be nice

Yeah I agree with this.

This means only people with super high luck's Tu will work amazing, creating yet another massive diff between ppl who can afford and ppl who cannot again.

Its always the new to server and lower/poorer that suffers with most patch updates, yet its usually the high lvls that moan for some reason.

TU is garbage 1-2 especially with bad luck.
Only once at lvl 3 it comes into its self and tbh Its always been great at lvl 3, that was the full point and effort for lvling it to 3 in the first place and also getting a high luck weapon in this case.

I don't know how it will be yet so cannot fully judge it yet.
But TU doesn't really seem to be the issue with wizards so I am not sure what this is going to address, Apart from places like frozen place etc which its ludacris, but that can be solved quite simple by putting the lvl of high lvl mobs to that of high lvl mobs.


Skyline and Sam I appreciate the work use do and I do believe its better than a server wipe which alot of ppl ask for(since alot would leave regardless what they say), and it is better addressing now than later.

But have you taken into consideration for the ppl that are not quite as rich/high or as much luck on there weap ?.

This is only going to effect poor ppl and new ppl or solo ppl in this case also.

 

[Slipmatt]

Hilarious how all the wizzies are whinging about TU, you all talking about this leveling system, new players etc cant catch up.. what about warriors? what about taos? they have it hard leveling to start with, we dont have TU like you guys.. give it a rest!!

iv been here 3/4 weeks after the server went into BETA and im only lvl 43 probably down to the fact i dont level often now but even still, as a warrior i dont level half as fast as a wizard does and you dont see us whinging, FML get a grip.

While im on the subject, when Ring first joined the server and joined our guild, he was playing for around 2 maybe 3 weeks and was level 48/49 that is the result of being a wizard so quit bitching

 

[bayya]

Well its not just wiz who have gained is it people just stand in bdd or wherever on a warrior/tao and leech exp its the new player who have the disadvantage for any class. you may still level faster on a new wiz then a new warrior but you won't catch a 55 wiz very quickly t bolting minos

There are wiz ingame who say tsing in a pair is faster than Tu ing solo. Wiz can level fast here in many ways in a group or solo. They can still let others leech. You will never catch level 50+ players who are ingame all day every day. which is what most of the 50 ones are. You will catch the majority who slow down after a while.
Good work.
Later than it shoulda been but then none of the official servers gave u any patches more than once/twice a year ish.

 

[Rollcage]

I didnt lvl with tu, was waitin till i can tu all mobs in bdd before i do, and it was a very viable method of lvling on official USA.

stop askin him to give out HIS files as if they are ur right, bell end.

 

[czeldabolg]

Sam, honestly don't discuss changes with people, just post updates then lock the thread. As honestly people will just bitch about updates every damn time if it effects their leveling. They have no idea about the hours that go into code, the double checking, looking out for issues, oh and the fact you're also coding a 12 year old game and having to go through different file-sets to get new effects, new ideas etc.

None of this is obviously thought of, it just comes down to BUT HOW WILL I DO THIS NOW. Adapt. This isn't euro, it's based off it yes, euro STOPPED though, this isn't its continuation this is another server trying to bring new content around but also keeping it balanced for the SERVERS sake. Oh and honestly on the whole Sams attitude stinks, how long do you expect someone to put up with the negativity you guys throwout before the guy bites back huh? Really?

Amazing..

/Czeldabolg

 

[ashleyuk]

Sam, honestly don't discuss changes with people, just post updates then lock the thread. As honestly people will just bitch about updates every damn time if it effects their leveling. They have no idea about the hours that go into code, the double checking, looking out for issues, oh and the fact you're also coding a 12 year old game and having to go through different file-sets to get new effects, new ideas etc.

None of this is obviously thought of, it just comes down to BUT HOW WILL I DO THIS NOW. Adapt. This isn't euro, it's based off it yes, euro STOPPED though, this isn't its continuation this is another server trying to bring new content around but also keeping it balanced for the SERVERS sake. Oh and honestly on the whole Sams attitude stinks, how long do you expect someone to put up with the negativity you guys throwout before the guy bites back huh? Really?

Amazing..

/Czeldabolg

I'd prefer updates no matter the consequences.. I don't play the server so I wouldn't know how bad this could be.. But updates are just gonna make the files 100% better.. And once there done they will add more content and eventually release them and most likely add more content.. So I don't get the BIG DEAL.. Soon you all will be able to design your own legend of mir!. With the amount of cool content that is in you could create many cool servers.

So all these updates ain't only making the server better.. It will eventually help design new legend of mir server's. But I hope all the moans would of eventually evaded away by then.

All the best AceM2 Team.

-Ash

 

[Violet9]

Yeah but for the new wizzys they have a massive disadvantage to people who started say 1 month ago who are now 50, just don't see the logic and they will never catch up t bolting crap or lightning/fw omas trying to fight for the little amount of mobs.

Actually you are wrong here. The highest wizard on server didn't use TU to lvl, but used Firewall+Lightning 98% of time. So, Fwall+Lightning for the win!

 

[mStation]

not that i really care about the changes made on TU.. it is and was stupid how it worked before.. (not tried how it works now, not yet)

most of the moaning though is not about TU being changed but about keeping things as they are.. people are just mad because they think high lvl wizzes had weeks to use the other TU system and so they pretend to have the same advantage..

it is impossible to keep the things equal for everybody unless you wipe chars and items and restart or make special spells that allow TU to work as before for 30 days from when you learn it and then adeguate it to the new TU after 30 days.

i just have to say one little thing and any good wiz can confirm.. lightning + fw will still get you better exp than TU'ing, less MP involved and also time. Under suggestion of a friend ingame (thanks) i tryed it myself in PSC and it is much better than TU'ing in ZT (lvl 36-37-38 in my case)

 

[terriblen]

Actually you are wrong here. The highest wizard on server didn't use TU to lvl, but used Firewall+Lightning 98% of time. So, Fwall+Lightning for the win!

with or without exploited power and exp buffs?

 

[WildGirl]

with or without exploited power and exp buffs?

You have no idea what lvling really means, stop crying and go play the game. You suck at it anyways.

 

[czeldabolg]

I'd prefer updates no matter the consequences.. I don't play the server so I wouldn't know how bad this could be.. But updates are just gonna make the files 100% better.. And once there done they will add more content and eventually release them and most likely add more content.. So I don't get the BIG DEAL.. Soon you all will be able to design your own legend of mir!. With the amount of cool content that is in you could create many cool servers.

So all these updates ain't only making the server better.. It will eventually help design new legend of mir server's. But I hope all the moans would of eventually evaded away by then.

All the best AceM2 Team.

-Ash

Re-read it ash, i told him to post the update information but lock the thread after, the discussion part that's allowed is always filled with negativity.

 

[WildGirl]

Re-read it ash, i told him to post the update information but lock the thread after, the discussion part that's allowed is always filled with negativity.

It's easy to have no feelings toward anything that happens in game when you don't actually play it. Negativity is part of life, criticism is needed to go forward sometime, depends on the "man in charge" to have what it takes to makes those changes.

 

[Liandrin2]

Re-read it ash, i told him to post the update information but lock the thread after, the discussion part that's allowed is always filled with negativity.

Not allowing feedback as it may be negative is not the way to go. Some people will always be negative, if it's not justified just ignore it.

 

[DeadGirl]

At the end of the day, do people want updates? or shall he leave it 6 months then throw us a little update? People will moan if there is an update, and they will moan 100x more if there isn't.

 

[WildGirl]

At the end of the day, do people want updates? or shall he leave it 6 months then throw us a little update? People will moan if there is an update, and they will moan 100x more if there isn't.

People want updates and I give you some examples: new classes-sin/archers, new skills (for real not pretend they in game with very low rate of drop) and REAL in-game balance of skills/classes.

 

[Hoody]

for me this is a great change with TU, ive said its over powered fpr ages and those moaning its not fair are being dicks, ive had about 4 hunts with my guild in bbd and its just run about and lure mobs on pandoria to TU, 2 wizzies TS leveling can level fast as hell in bdd anyway! this change for me puts group hunting back into the game and giving other classes somthing to do other then lure on the highest level wiz with the highest luck and carry mp for them

if your also moaning it makes soloing hard then your a bigger dick cause any tao or war would level slow solo! if you dont wanna work or have a challenge to level then dont level! if you cant solo go play with a friend!

 

[deano13]

People want updates and I give you some examples: new classes-sin/archers, new skills (for real not pretend they in game with very low rate of drop) and REAL in-game balance of skills/classes.

Tbf good skills should be real hard to get, what's needed is more levelling areas, there's plenty about, you have ancient runes, red cave, troll cave etc, ancient runes was an awsome lvling area, lots of different ways to go and floors, would make a change from PB or vipers/BDD, more levelling caves/bosses is what's need as people are getting so bord of what we've got now as every1 has pretty much out levelled them.

 

[terriblen]

Tbf good skills should be real hard to get, what's needed is more levelling areas, there's plenty about, you have ancient runes, red cave, troll cave etc, ancient runes was an awsome lvling area, lots of different ways to go and floors, would make a change from PB or vipers/BDD, more levelling caves/bosses is what's need as people are getting so bord of what we've got now as every1 has pretty much out levelled them.

Right on target. they(some people) outlevelled the content.

You have no idea what lvling really means, stop crying and go play the game. You suck at it anyways.

would that be because most people "play the game" as you kindly suggest instead of exploiting it?

Your moaning that you are unable to turn a bunch of level 55 mobs against each other... Surely you knew this was a bug and didn't think to report it... Its near enough the same as being able to tame Foxes... Yet Vipers hurt more and you can hallucinate as many as you please...
Don't moan about not being able to exploit obvious bugs...Sam

Been told now
Maybe it isn't a "bug" but surely you with your expert knowledge of the game can work out that it isn't balanced or good for the server. Yet don't think to mention it

 

[Laylas]

Tbf good skills should be real hard to get, what's needed is more levelling areas, there's plenty about, you have ancient runes, red cave, troll cave etc, ancient runes was an awsome lvling area, lots of different ways to go and floors, would make a change from PB or vipers/BDD, more levelling caves/bosses is what's need as people are getting so bord of what we've got now as every1 has pretty much out levelled them.

Would love to see thos maps here, especially ancient ruins with it's nice drops

 

[czeldabolg]

People want updates and I give you some examples: new classes-sin/archers, new skills (for real not pretend they in game with very low rate of drop) and REAL in-game balance of skills/classes.

Not as easy as you think, NO english files have the archer class in, only two sets i know of have sin and they're buggy at parts, their is code glitches all over the place, you seem to think it's a simple thing and your attitude is poor, all you do is whine and to be fair a lot of the thread, you don't really offer constructive critism you just say oh this is ****, why did you change this etc. You give no real defense, you just expect. That is your main problem.

Real in-game balance / class changes, everytime that happens you guys jump up at the team, remember the spell cast change? How hard did people ***** within an hour before giving it a chance.

@The ones mentioning about locking the post to stop discussion, there is a main reason and it's due to the large negativity contributes more than the positivity, it's nothing to do with being a man or being able to hack it, it comes down to how grateful players are as a whole, and lately i can see why 5 members have left the team already. It's because the vocal community are negative, the ones who actually are fine with changes, play the ****ing game and are glad that it is updated.

People on the mir forums have been ungrateful for years, because they seem to think they're owed something, you're not, doesn't matter if you spend 6+ hours a day on it or 18 hours a week, you are not special. The people coding these files and contributing to the community to give them something to play for FREE, now that's something special.

Not allowing feedback as it may be negative is not the way to go. Some people will always be negative, if it's not justified just ignore it.

I'll agree and disagree here, in a lot of cases it is the way to go and has happened at major companies, blizzard stopped with mentioning content before it was released due to backlash, same with league of legends, they even stopped posting updates of what's to come before patch-notes. I think it would be easier to say that a reboot is coming, put the patch in and leave it be, if anything is bugged or broken it should be reported.

While I realise these are major games to compare to, league was a small company at first but negativity has drowned out a lot of what used to be given due to a negative vibe / vocal community who are spoiled. I do get that everyone deserves a voice but I also believe in balance too because as we can see content updates have slowed dramatically due to the feedback the team kept getting. If they push any harder these files may be dropped (I hope not obviously) but I get the feeling it may happen as i've seen it happen before over the years. That is my primary worry and a lot of the people don't think twice about how much damage they're actually doing until it's done, and even then they'll still be vocal i'm sure of that.

I decided this post deserved an actual reply to help convey my point


/Czeldabolg