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Toddwhite

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Wizz vs war doesn't take time and skill. it is impossible to kill him if he hp pots. if it took time and skill it would be balanced! That is the entire point, why comment on things you have not tested? Hp + ff wiz will be fine, I think. but that means that its ok a level 40 wiz cant kill a level 35 war? When I say cant kill, I mean it literally, a warrior in a little amc can out pot a wizards damage. that's not balanced.
 

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Give wizards Geo Manipulation ... or whatever its called, that port to mouse pointer ****.
 

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Make it add a cooldown to FF if used, that way you can't abuse it. so its either FF or GEO


and vice versa ofc.
 

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I'll agree here, I was on a 37 wizard and I couldn't kill a 31 war trapped in a lure, he was just auto potting away killing the lure and even typing lol

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I'll agree here, I was on a 37 wizard and I couldn't kill a 31 war trapped in a lure, he was just auto potting away killing the lure and even typing lol

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I'll agree here, I was on a 37 wizard and I couldn't kill a 31 war trapped in a lure, he was just auto potting away killing the lure and even typing lol

---------- Post Merged at 07:48 PM ---------- Previous Post was at 07:48 PM ----------

I'll agree here, I was on a 37 wizard and I couldn't kill a 31 war trapped in a lure, he was just auto potting away killing the lure and even typing lol

---------- Post Merged at 07:48 PM ---------- Previous Post was at 07:48 PM ----------

I'll agree here, I was on a 37 wizard and I couldn't kill a 31 war trapped in a lure, he was just auto potting away killing the lure and even typing lol

---------- Post Merged at 07:48 PM ---------- Previous Post was at 07:48 PM ----------

I'll agree here, I was on a 37 wizard and I couldn't kill a 31 war trapped in a lure, he was just auto potting away killing the lure and even typing lol

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I'll agree here, I was on a 37 wizard and I couldn't kill a 31 war trapped in a lure, he was just auto potting away killing the lure and even typing lol

---------- Post Merged at 07:48 PM ---------- Previous Post was at 07:48 PM ----------

I'll agree here, I was on a 37 wizard and I couldn't kill a 31 war trapped in a lure, he was just auto potting away killing the lure and even typing lol

---------- Post Merged at 07:48 PM ---------- Previous Post was at 07:48 PM ----------

I'll agree here, I was on a 37 wizard and I couldn't kill a 31 war trapped in a lure, he was just auto potting away killing the lure and even typing lol

---------- Post Merged at 07:48 PM ---------- Previous Post was at 07:48 PM ----------

I'll agree here, I was on a 37 wizard and I couldn't kill a 31 war trapped in a lure, he was just auto potting away killing the lure and even typing lol
 

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so, you are honestly saying that it is fine that it is impossible for me to kill a warrior, but he can 2 hit me? If so I won't bother replying to you anymore. Ofcourse, if you land 20 consecutive hits, you should be able to kill him. try the test with him red poisoned too. Try the test vs a tao healing himself. Wizards don't do any damage, to any classes, aslong as they hp pot, they can ignore a wiz.

Wizard don't come into the PVP scene until late, when they can tame stupid things and have ridiculously overpowered skills, but if a Warrior is managing to get near you with pets (I assume you are using pets or this topic is flawed becuase pets are a key part to a wizard) then you simply need to learn to play a Wizard in PVP better.

But i still believe your all judging wizard too early, you need to buff that MC up a little.
 

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Wizard don't come into the PVP scene until late, when they can tame stupid things and have ridiculously overpowered skills, but if a Warrior is managing to get near you with pets (I assume you are using pets or this topic is flawed becuase pets are a key part to a wizard) then you simply need to learn to play a Wizard in PVP better.


If I had a pound for every time someone has cried about my level 7 armoured ants over the last week... :D
 

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But i still believe your all judging wizard too early, you need to buff that MC up a little.

Every1 is in shop kit (or a little more than, with few exceptions) and wizards get smashed.

What makes u think that when wizards finally get some MC (???) that SC/DC isnt gonna also rise, and the process just happens faster...?

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Wizz's are weak ATM true but no1 really has any decent mc or items yet so can't really moan,
Lvl44 is where the fun begins!!.....

Ew2
 

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Wizz's are weak ATM true but no1 really has any decent mc or items yet so can't really moan,
Lvl44 is where the fun begins!!.....

Ew2

That's the thing, plenty of games have the same problem (is it really a problem?), some characters are just not strong during the start of the game. The reason being is that they are an endgame class, okay fair enough getting dropped by players in seconds is annoying but then you live with the fact that you can PvE alot faster than most classes.

This comes at a price
 

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That's the thing, plenty of games have the same problem (is it really a problem?), some characters are just not strong during the start of the game. The reason being is that they are an endgame class, okay fair enough getting dropped by players in seconds is annoying but then you live with the fact that you can PvE alot faster than most classes.

This comes at a price
It is a problem yes. If it was hard to kill somebody that was hp potting, I can understand. It is currently impossible. so it is a problem. A warrior with a bag of hp doesn't have to worry at all about having to tt from a wiz, this is wrong. plain and simple.
 

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Thats the point tho...

Heres what the classes are good at...

Archers
Massive single target damage in shop kit
Massive AoE damage with staticshot
Level fast in BDD/PB/Frozen with AttunedMind killing 1by1
Destroy wizards
Give taos hell in group fights

Warriors
Tank for days in shop kit
Cannot be killed by wizards
Massive single target damage
Can lvl pretty fast in PT/PB/BDD with TDB
Can tank bosses
Destroy wizards(in any fight) and archers (in group fights)

Taos
Goes without saying, can solo plenty bosses
1 hit kill Archer/Wiz w/ poison in shop kit
Level fast w/ Archer/Sin/Warr in PB/PT/BDD
Destroy wizards (In any instance) and archers (1v1)

Assassin
Do massive single target damage in shop kit
Can solo plenty bosses (alot more with a tao, including OmaKing.....)
Destroy wizards in a few seconds (fair enough)
Level very fast in PT/PB/BDD with another sin.

Wizards
Thunderstorm PT in shop kit.

On that, which class sounds least fun....

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Toddwhite

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Thats the point tho...

Heres what the classes are good at...

Archers
Massive single target damage in shop kit
Massive AoE damage with staticshot
Level fast in BDD/PB/Frozen with AttunedMind killing 1by1
Destroy wizards
Give taos hell in group fights

Warriors
Tank for days in shop kit
Cannot be killed by wizards
Massive single target damage
Can lvl pretty fast in PT/PB/BDD with TDB
Can tank bosses
Destroy wizards(in any fight) and archers (in group fights)

Taos
Goes without saying, can solo plenty bosses
1 hit kill Archer/Wiz w/ poison in shop kit
Level fast w/ Archer/Sin/Warr in PB/PT/BDD
Destroy wizards (In any instance) and archers (1v1)

Assassin
Do massive single target damage in shop kit
Can solo plenty bosses (alot more with a tao, including OmaKing.....)
Destroy wizards in a few seconds (fair enough)
Level very fast in PT/PB/BDD with another sin.

Wizards
Thunderstorm PT in shop kit.
Die the easiest, deal easily potable damage to all classes.

On that, which class sounds least fun....

x
Completely agree, but added another line to wiz, it's not just warriors you cant kill, any class can hp pot it with shop level amc.
 

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Thats the point tho...

Heres what the classes are good at...

Archers
Massive single target damage in shop kit
Massive AoE damage with staticshot
Level fast in BDD/PB/Frozen with AttunedMind killing 1by1
Destroy wizards
Give taos hell in group fights

Warriors
Tank for days in shop kit
Cannot be killed by wizards
Massive single target damage
Can lvl pretty fast in PT/PB/BDD with TDB
Can tank bosses
Destroy wizards(in any fight) and archers (in group fights)

Taos
Goes without saying, can solo plenty bosses
1 hit kill Archer/Wiz w/ poison in shop kit
Level fast w/ Archer/Sin/Warr in PB/PT/BDD
Destroy wizards (In any instance) and archers (1v1)

Assassin
Do massive single target damage in shop kit
Can solo plenty bosses (alot more with a tao, including OmaKing.....)
Destroy wizards in a few seconds (fair enough)
Level very fast in PT/PB/BDD with another sin.

Wizards
Thunderstorm PT in shop kit.

On that, which class sounds least fun....

x

add pets

this is the best case for Wizards I have seen.

it would be dif if we could refine, make Gems etc not just for MC but to up our AC and MAC like we used too
be able to use FW like we used too
hide behind walls like we used too
cast on the move like we used too

any more "like we used too's" that ive missed?
 

Toddwhite

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add pets

this is the best case for Wizards I have seen.

it would be dif if we could refine, make Gems etc not just for MC but to up our AC and MAC like we used too
be able to use FW like we used too
hide behind walls like we used too
cast on the move like we used too

any more "like we used too's" that ive missed?

do damage like we used to. I know archers are better at 1 vs 1 dmg, but vs undead mobs, I do 40, my archer in same kit does 120. 3x the single target damage? I just don't understand how this got through beta. Vs players, it is much worse. The pve, I can understand to a degree, but the PVP is just wrong.
 
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