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d1craig

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come on they aint really novelty items... they fill the gap between gaxe and jmace pretty well. if im to beleive what some poeple say "they do offer more dps than the weapon below them".

the aspd is different on this server. if its adjusted for some items then it should be adjusted for all items.
 

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come on they aint really novelty items... they fill the gap between gaxe and jmace pretty well. if im to beleive what some poeple say "they do offer more dps than the weapon below them".

the aspd is different on this server. if its adjusted for some items then it should be adjusted for all items.
that is right, can only see what sam say's, novelty item or not, the dmg I do now is far more than what you would do with a mace and the same gear I am in. The+2 galerings made up for the -2* Aspeed (as I stand corrected) on the BDS, it doesn't make sense that it currently is +1galering and -2Aspeed you have to lose 8DC if wearing 2 dragon rings just to get normal attack speed and a further 4-5 DC from having to gain an advantage in speed by using a gale necklace. Sam can ya look at this please.
 

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that is right, can only see what sam say's, novelty item or not, the dmg I do now is far more than what you would do with a mace and the same gear I am in. The+2 galerings made up for the -2* Aspeed (as I stand corrected) on the BDS, it doesn't make sense that it currently is +1galering and -2Aspeed you have to lose 8DC if wearing 2 dragon rings just to get normal attack speed and a further 4-5 DC from having to gain an advantage in speed by using a gale necklace. Sam can ya look at this please.

but you cheat, already banned once, and tell me, you aren't cheating now, you cheat full stop, should just remove you and put you down.. be the best thing for everyone else but yourself.. It's for the best..
 

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that is right, can only see what sam say's, novelty item or not, the dmg I do now is far more than what you would do with a mace and the same gear I am in. The+2 galerings made up for the -2* Aspeed (as I stand corrected) on the BDS, it doesn't make sense that it currently is +1galering and -2Aspeed you have to lose 8DC if wearing 2 dragon rings just to get normal attack speed and a further 4-5 DC from having to gain an advantage in speed by using a gale necklace. Sam can ya look at this please.


So you want gale stuff to have double atk speed,
so not only do you hit harder and tank more then sins, you also want very similar atk speed to them?
Nut up and shut up, get a proper DSlayer if you want to wear your normal rings.
 

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Had it been anyone else posting this thread you'd all be in agreement.
 

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Had it been anyone else posting this thread you'd all be in agreement.

Hardly, I have no issues with anyone on this server, but he's asking for things that are ok as they are :)
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Hes only asking this now as he has one anyway, people aren't posting about the other zuma items.
Also if you buff gale rings and neckies due to this post alone, you will make standard weapons much stronger with the atk speed buff, lose your neckies DC for +4 atk speed seems way too good considering warrs damage output already >.<
 

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Hardly, I have no issues with anyone on this server, but he's asking for things that are ok as they are :)
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Hes only asking this now as he has one anyway, people aren't posting about the other zuma items.
Also if you buff gale rings and neckies due to this post alone, you will make standard weapons much stronger with the atk speed buff, lose your neckies DC for +4 atk speed seems way too good considering warrs damage output already >.<

http://www.lomcn.org/forum/showthread.php?83661-Attack-speed-weapons-items

I posted about it a month ago.

I play a wiz, so this doesn't effect me in any way.

You don't need to make gale items better, you can make zuma mace / blk dss less "****".

Zuma WMS / Blk D Staff are still better than a mage staff, so why should the warrior counter part be worse?
 

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Hardly, I have no issues with anyone on this server, but he's asking for things that are ok as they are :)
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Hes only asking this now as he has one anyway, people aren't posting about the other zuma items.
Also if you buff gale rings and neckies due to this post alone, you will make standard weapons much stronger with the atk speed buff, lose your neckies DC for +4 atk speed seems way too good considering warrs damage output already >.<
well the problem is with gale items having the numbers reduced from 2/4 -1/2 but the blk weapons have stayed at -2 instead of being changed to -1 which would be inline with all the other speed items that have been changed.
 

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but you cheat, already banned once, and tell me, you aren't cheating now, you cheat full stop, should just remove you and put you down.. be the best thing for everyone else but yourself.. It's for the best..
Please post something constructive. Also @lightbringer, how would changing aspeed to -1 and gales to +2 make us hit as fast as sins, your talkin nonsense. And don't u worry i'll have a proper dslayer soon enough as for tanking sins, we are a tank class. now gtfo.
 

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Please post something constructive. Also @lightbringer, how would changing aspeed to -1 and gales to +2 make us hit as fast as sins, your talkin nonsense. And don't u worry i'll have a proper dslayer soon enough as for tanking sins, we are a tank class. now gtfo.

Lmao you are so biased towards your own class.
I don't even play 'sins anymore, but the fact is they are meant to be high single target damage, low tankyness - they are not high damage and can't tank
Warriors currently hit harder then them on single targets, while still packing the AC and HP to tank stuff, they have no downside is what I was saying, I dont see why the atk speed increases should come into affect since it only affects warriors. (8atk speed is capped on this server)
I didnt say same I said similar, and if you have gale ring and neckie at your proposed atk speed you would have +8 atk speed.

Don't do anything with these BD weps, they are fine as is, they are the poor mans equivalent, so get over it.
so dear swamp how about you GTFO with your nonsence
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Lmao you are so biased towards your own class.
I don't even play 'sins anymore, but the fact is they are meant to be high single target damage, low tankyness - they are not high damage and can't tank
Warriors currently hit harder then them on single targets, while still packing the AC and HP to tank stuff, they have no downside is what I was saying, I dont see why the atk speed increases should come into affect since it only affects warriors. (8atk speed is capped on this server)
I didnt say same I said similar, and if you have gale ring and neckie at your proposed atk speed you would have +8 atk speed.

Don't do anything with these BD weps, they are fine as is, they are the poor mans equivalent, so get over it.
so dear swamp how about you GTFO with your nonsence
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Im not asking him to change a thing so get off your high horse, I asked him to look into it, if you cant tank a war get some better dc plenty of sins make me run before I make them run, Im not asking this to be changed simply cause I have a BDS now, but it is the fact I have the only one and can experience how bad it is having to lose 10 dc to be on the same attack speed as everyone else. Better still, your not even playing a class that requires aspeed so yeh gtfo the thread. You and most others on this section of the forum are the cause of Sam not replying to threads like these to shed his light upon the subject cause al you do is fill them with hatred and spam. No one wants to hear it/read it. And holly is right, if it was anyone else posting the same thread your mouth would be salty. now fo.
 

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The reason gale items have less speed is to stop warr's getting +8 a speed or wot is the point in having sins in game tht use speed to there advantages. A warr with +4 speed is OP enough so to have 8 wud make sins pointless and also tbh soon as gems become more involved and storm gems in game sins will be pointless then as warr's cud easy get Close to +8 anyways
 
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If they don't want warriors to be so fast with speed, then drop the Dswords down to +1 instead of +2, as you did with gale items.
 

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Take gale items out full stop or make it so they can only use for mining
 

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You'll need more than aspeed to make you good pal, you tried cheats but you were still as bad.
 
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