Strong Set.

[MOKA]

weap neck x2brace x2rings.
ac+1 amc+3 mc+3
that is what it gives for a wiz.

problem is strong items are as expensive as lets say next level items such as knightbraces greenbead etc.
the stats on them are too poor. and needs to be buffed.

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problem is: this set was introduced in ace to give 'low' level players something to hunt for, aka give low/medium boss's something to drop, rather then powerlvling to 40+ and going for the big boss's.
chronicles in it's infinite wisedom however, decided no items should drop: so even the stuff that's designed to be semi common turns out to be the rarest set ingame

+1

 

[Babyhack]

I just had a look at the set bonus
In the case of the strong set

DC Set Bonus = AC + 3, AMC + 1, DC + 3
MC Set Bonus = AC + 1, AMC + 3, MC +3
SC Set Bonus = AC + 2, AMC + 2, SC +3

If players could please post what they think the bonus should be (within reason)
I will look at having it changed

BH

 

[thedeath]

heh babyhack maybe the problem isnt the bonus itself, but the rarity of the items combined with the level you might wear them (aka they are lvl 26-30 items and everyone assumes they should give a set worth having at lvl 35+)
think you should defently make the set less strict
- make the weapon an 'option' for like 1 extra dc, lets face it you dont need that lvl 26 weapon verry long.
- reduce it to 1 ring and 1 brace rather then both (many ppl want sharp braces, tons of better dc/mc/sc rings even at that lvl etc

 

[Babyhack]

heh babyhack maybe the problem isnt the bonus itself, but the rarity of the items combined with the level you might wear them (aka they are lvl 26-30 items and everyone assumes they should give a set worth having at lvl 35+)
think you should defently make the set less strict
- make the weapon an 'option' for like 1 extra dc, lets face it you dont need that lvl 26 weapon verry long.
- reduce it to 1 ring and 1 brace rather then both (many ppl want sharp braces, tons of better dc/mc/sc rings even at that lvl etc

Yeah I was thinking it might be a option to drop the requirements for the bonus down to weapon, 1 ring, 1 brace and necklace

Or maybe like your other idea, have lower bonus stats if you have 1 ring,1 brace and necklace but not the weapon

Am interested in hearing what people think about this

BH

 

[MOKA]

heh babyhack maybe the problem isnt the bonus itself, but the rarity of the items combined with the level you might wear them (aka they are lvl 26-30 items and everyone assumes they should give a set worth having at lvl 35+)
think you should defently make the set less strict

am not sure what you mean with less strict but changing the items to become common is too late. these are rare and should still be rare..

Yeah I was thinking it might be a option to drop the requirements for the bonus down to weapon, 1 ring, 1 brace and necklace

Or maybe like your other idea, have lower bonus stats if you have 1 ring,1 brace and necklace but not the weapon

Am interested in hearing what people think about this

BH

the set i believe should stay as it is with the number of required items but the bonus should be increased as it is too late for those who been have saving these items for over 3 months now to see what a set will give only to find out that the bonus is too low and i happen to be the first one to find this out .
keep the stats on the items as low as they are, to be useless unless with a full 5 items set.

 

[Ludacris]

not sure on the stats of the axe and staff , but the strong serpentsword stats are terrible. lose the strength+1 and put holy back on it please.

 

[Zed]

Change the max stats of the strong gear to the same of the normal gear
Strong Plat Ring is SC1-3 (make it 1-4) and if any others are like this, do the same,
I would also take out the weapon as part of the set, as it really limits the sets capabilities

Also means then Sins n Archers can use the set!

 

[MOKA]

the weapon it self is as low on stats like the actual set.

if anything, you should not take an item off the game. you just buff it a bit. not because were asking for it ! no thats because you made a rare set that takes 6 items to work and you aint giving no real bonus stats + you cut down the actual damaging stats on the items. mc sc dc
increase 1 top end stat to each item including the weapon.

 

[HarryH]

I think removing the requirement of every item to get the necessary boost is a good enough change, for example one of each ring, bracelet, necklace, or no weapon.

The items themselves have higher base stats plus defensive stats so adding more to them will make them amazing items individually and take the emphasis away from them being part of a set.

 

[FaithKING69]

the weapon it self is as low on stats like the actual set.

if anything, you should not take an item off the game. you just buff it a bit. not because were asking for it ! no thats because you made a rare set that takes 6 items to work and you aint giving no real bonus stats + you cut down the actual damaging stats on the items. mc sc dc
increase 1 top end stat to each item including the weapon.

+1

 

[HarryH]

Each item of the strong set is already better than it's regular counterpart, as the total class stat on each is the same including the base and also there is added defensive stats. Increasing the stats on each individual item will make them rocket in price and also make them superior to the tier above. The options are either make it easier to attain the set bonus or buff each individual item and completely remove any set bonus, I'm in favour of having a set as it's an aspect of mir which is nice to have.

 

[MOKA]

maintain the required amount of items required for the set then, do not buff do not let them be common items
buff the bonus stats earned with the full 6 items set. for example.. the current stat bonus should be only for necky brace ring.. if you wear the rest (staff brace ring) you get double stats.

 

[d1craig]

Why not give little bonus for parts of the set ie. 1ring 1brace. And a bigger bonus for the full set?

these should be dropping as regular as there copies aswell.

 

[HarryH]

3 item bonus and 6 item bonus sound like a good idea. If they were just as common as the regular version then power rings, soul necklaces etc would drop a lot. With the set bonus they'd be better items.

 

[Babyhack]

Ok after taking into account what you have all said I have updated the Strong sets as seen below

StrongClawNecklace
StrongKnightBracelet
StrongDragonRing
Bonus of AC + 3, AMC + 1, DC + 3

StrongGreatAxe
StrongClawNecklace
StrongKnightBracelet x 2
StrongDragonRing x 2
Mini set Bonus + AC + 2, AMC + 1, DC + 2

StrongPearlNecklace
Strong3rdEyeBracelet
StrongPlatinumRing
Bonus of AC + 2, AMC + 2, SC + 3

StrongSerpentSword
StrongPearlNecklace
Strong3rdEyeBracelet x 2
StrongPlatinumRing x 2
Mini set Bonus + AC + 2, AMC + 2, SC + 2

StrongLifeNecklace
StrongSpellBracelet
StrongRubyRing
Bonus of AC + 1, AMC + 3, MC + 3

StrongMageStaff
StrongLifeNecklace
StrongSpellBracelet x2
StrongRubyRing x 2
Mini set Bonus + AC + 1, AMC + 2, MC + 2

This will become active from the next reboot and are there for testing (we may change them again if they are to strong (or too weak)

All feedback is welcome related to these changes

BH

 

[HarryH]

Awesome work! Looks a little strong for a buff but I'll see what others think guess my added set will rocket

 

[MOKA]

not too big not too small seems a fair buff

 

[d1craig]

yea it gives close to normal items top end and adds defence aswell so should be good. gives a little more customisation.

 

[jez]

yea it gives close to normal items top end and adds defence aswell so should be good. gives a little more customisation.

gives you a reason to come bak and fkin play then.

yer stats are looking good, much improved.
they dont show up on TM tho when you mouse over an item.

 

[shane1985]

Prices of strong items are going to sky rocket