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ZeusStar

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What is actually happening to this server, both nemo/turrican resigned, all that's left is babyhack and sam, and when it comes to balancing, no offence here but its terrible, losing players daily, not listening to the community is vital, most of the moaning balance class posts get ignored and changes made to other classes when not needed, drops being changed every 24 hours, some people have made millions from a mob for it to be changed over night, can either of you explain where the future is heading with this server as it all seems to just be going downhill rather rapidly.... its acem2 all over again....
 

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I was planing on making a post about stuff today but I got busy.

I will post something later tonight.

On a side not I have been listening, reading and replying to everyone in relation to class balancing (something that is not easy to do, I do not think any server has ever managed it)

Nemo and Turrican both stepped down due to being busy with real life and not having the time to work on the server.

In the past two weeks I have had more forgotten password requests from old players coming back then every before.

Players are excited about 2.0 something I am working hard on and hope to release this within the next 3 to 4 weeks, refining and gems where the start of this.

As for balancing classes all I see on the forum is class threads moaning that their class is broken and eating it fixed straight away. Posts like that a fine for one class but their are 4 other classes and when you change something on one class you effect the other.

I have already said many times that I have started looking at all classes and all spells in relation to fixing them up. Right now I am looking at wizards as let's be honest here they are a mess and this is the reason there are very few of them.

Work is being done on the sever daily, the last couple of weeks have seen two reboots the fix slot of bugs and add a lot of things to the game, mining, gems and fixed shops being some of the main ones.

I really do not understand what more you want us to do.

BH
 

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What is actually happening to this server, both nemo/turrican resigned, all that's left is babyhack and sam,
Yes

and when it comes to balancing, no offence here but its terrible
BH is working on the balance of the server (my opinion, is its not as bad as many people make out... War, Sin, Tao are pretty well balanced, Archer is a little OP in PVP but is working as I designed him PVE, Wizards could do with a boost in both aspects (pve and pvp).


losing players daily
We lost a number of players due to a number of unfortunate events and the lack of worth for hunting drops... In fact the UC has seen a steady rise again since BH has been adjusting the drops.

not listening to the community is vital, most of the moaning balance class posts get ignored and changes made to other classes when not needed,
Much of the community is out for their own benefit, not the benefit of the entire server... There are no preferences to classes, we don't not want to see one class prosper over another.

drops being changed every 24 hours,
Drops will always be changed, they will not stay the same for very long, we have stated this previously.

some people have made millions from a mob for it to be changed over night,
Very large exaggeration, I think this happened once due to a bug and BH was very quick to resolve the issue.

can either of you explain where the future is heading with this server as it all seems to just be going downhill rather rapidly.... its acem2 all over again....
This is a very general question, care to elaborate? What is it your most interested in?

Answers in red.

Sam
 

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I consider you have done a lot of useful things.
I consider this thread as a moaning. no suggestions but crying and complaints
I was planing on making a post about stuff today but I got busy.

I will post something later tonight.

On a side not I have been listening, reading and replying to everyone in relation to class balancing (something that is not easy to do, I do not think any server has ever managed it)

Nemo and Turrican both stepped down due to being busy with real life and not having the time to work on the server.

In the past two weeks I have had more forgotten password requests from old players coming back then every before.

Players are excited about 2.0 something I am working hard on and hope to release this within the next 3 to 4 weeks, refining and gems where the start of this.

As for balancing classes all I see on the forum is class threads moaning that their class is broken and eating it fixed straight away. Posts like that a fine for one class but their are 4 other classes and when you change something on one class you effect the other.

I have already said many times that I have started looking at all classes and all spells in relation to fixing them up. Right now I am looking at wizards as let's be honest here they are a mess and this is the reason there are very few of them.

Work is being done on the sever daily, the last couple of weeks have seen two reboots the fix slot of bugs and add a lot of things to the game, mining, gems and fixed shops being some of the main ones.

I really do not understand what more you want us to do.

BH
 

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I actually think the server has seen decent improvements in the last few weeks, and i don't agree that the team aren't listening to people; in fact, i think the opposite. I also recognise that no matter what they do, they won't be able to please everyone. I'd even go so far to say that the reason people bitch and moan so much on here is due to the very fact that historically when people have complained, the team have listened and made changes, which encourages people to whine even more in the hope that if they make enough fuss a change will be implemented.
 
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I was planing on making a post about stuff today but I got busy.

I will post something later tonight.

On a side not I have been listening, reading and replying to everyone in relation to class balancing (something that is not easy to do, I do not think any server has ever managed it)

Nemo and Turrican both stepped down due to being busy with real life and not having the time to work on the server.

In the past two weeks I have had more forgotten password requests from old players coming back then every before.

Players are excited about 2.0 something I am working hard on and hope to release this within the next 3 to 4 weeks, refining and gems where the start of this.

As for balancing classes all I see on the forum is class threads moaning that their class is broken and eating it fixed straight away. Posts like that a fine for one class but their are 4 other classes and when you change something on one class you effect the other.

I have already said many times that I have started looking at all classes and all spells in relation to fixing them up. Right now I am looking at wizards as let's be honest here they are a mess and this is the reason there are very few of them.

Work is being done on the sever daily, the last couple of weeks have seen two reboots the fix slot of bugs and add a lot of things to the game, mining, gems and fixed shops being some of the main ones.

I really do not understand what more you want us to do.

BH

.... Fed up of hearing about 2.0 when the current state is so broken. stop all work on 2.0 until you fix wizzies. the majority of your time should be spent on that. it shouldnt take long to sort it and test. and if it does take alot of time to sort and test. then how do you have time to work on 2.0?

foxes is now fixed which is nice and the changes to drops and stuff have been pretty good.

classes just need fixing.

get the current content working perfectly before even thinking of introducing more bugs.

TKO seem to have a guild full of darkarmours now? i dont know where theyre dropping from, or where they WERE dropping from(probly been nerfed now)

... imagine those drop files have changed now, because half their guild are alrdy kitted out in dark armours. surely they should be a rare item... not 5+ of them dropping in less than a week?
 

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What is actually happening to this server, both nemo/turrican resigned, all that's left is babyhack and sam, and when it comes to balancing, no offence here but its terrible, losing players daily, not listening to the community is vital, most of the moaning balance class posts get ignored and changes made to other classes when not needed, drops being changed every 24 hours, some people have made millions from a mob for it to be changed over night, can either of you explain where the future is heading with this server as it all seems to just be going downhill rather rapidly.... its acem2 all over again....
DICK!
prob from another server getting worried again
wait for ddos
 

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bit shocking wizards havent been changed still - it was like February this was first highlighted (without prejudice).
my post about wiz mass killing mobs, carrying grp hunts for all classes - imo is still true - and find it amazing that the mp consumption of spells hasnt been reduced, nor damage increased. as a result NOBODY (not just wizards) can do long 'clearing to kr' hunts without a silly set up which saps the fun from the game. you just rush bosses which drop bad and are dull to hunt - as there is no real hunt.

wouldnt be in a rush to play again if these changes were made now, but could see myself returning for a game at some point - maybe once i see a ff book or 2 for sale on the marketplace - idk and am past caring for a variety of reasons - gl with it tho
 

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.... Fed up of hearing about 2.0 when the current state is so broken. stop all work on 2.0 until you fix wizzies. the majority of your time should be spent on that. it shouldnt take long to sort it and test. and if it does take alot of time to sort and test. then how do you have time to work on 2.0?

Has it occured to you that a class (or Wiz) rebalancing might be an integral part of 2.0? >_>

BH, Sam, you're doing a great job. Much better than the GMs on literally any other server I've played on. Kudos for that!
 

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All this talk of wizards not being changed...

FC has been boosted
Lightning has been massively boosted.
ThunderBolt has been boosted
The smarter AI has been removed from normal mobs...

Wizards are far from being neglected... They just have higher expectations lol.

Sam
 

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All this talk of wizards not being changed...

FC has been boosted
Lightning has been massively boosted.
ThunderBolt has been boosted
The smarter AI has been removed from normal mobs...

Wizards are far from being neglected... They just have higher expectations lol.

Sam

And we are actively doing more.

BH
 

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Wizards are far from being neglected... They just have higher expectations lol.

Sam

Wizards just want to be back to the position they are used to. They aren't asking for anything OP like other classes have. They will still get absolutely dicked in a fight.
 

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Wizards just want to be back to the position they are used to. They aren't asking for anything OP like other classes have. They will still get absolutely dicked in a fight.

And what is preventing this?

Sam
 

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And what is preventing this?

Sam

Is this a sarcastic post, or have I dreamt up numerous threads about how to put wizards back to how they used to be?

Warriors have constant TDB due to no slaying.
Taos have had a mega boost, and also can use masters target, which is way OP.
Sins have had their base ACC upped, and HP buff.
Archers have had HP buff, and do insane damage.
Wizards - want to be how they were on other servers. Nothing OP. Just normal wiz.
 

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Is this a sarcastic post, or have I dreamt up numerous threads about how to put wizards back to how they used to be?

Warriors have constant TDB due to no slaying.
Taos have had a mega boost, and also can use masters target, which is way OP.
Sins have had their base ACC upped, and HP buff.
Archers have had HP buff, and do insane damage.
Wizards - want to be how they were on other servers. Nothing OP. Just normal wiz.

It wasn't a sarcastic post, apologies if it came across so... I am just a little confused as to what is prevent wizards from being "Normal" what is the number one contributing factor that is making wizards feel hard done by?

Baring in mind Mirror will also have masters target from next reboot.

Sam
 

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Is there anything in the pipeline for sins? As flash dash is still doing 2 damage and has to proc to be useful, and when it does finally proc after numorus 2-8-12 damage it last for a second...
 

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It wasn't a sarcastic post, apologies if it came across so... I am just a little confused as to what is prevent wizards from being "Normal" what is the number one contributing factor that is making wizards feel hard done by?

Baring in mind Mirror will also have masters target from next reboot.

Sam

http://www.lomcn.org/forum/showthread.php?84714-Wizard-Class

I don't feel that any of these suggestions are untrue, and trying to make a class OP.

Great for the masters target ... but I still feel this shouldn't be around for wiz or taos.
 

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Wizards just want to be back to the position they are used to. They aren't asking for anything OP like other classes have. They will still get absolutely dicked in a fight.



When will any wiz take a step back and see that they were unbalanced. No balancing was ever done on Euro opr anywhere else. Wizards levelled fastest, hit hardest, could solo most bosses and no one even thought this a bit off cos there were more wiz on every server than anything else.
They got toned down on official servers but a lot of wiz still asking for everything to be the same. Just because you want everything easy.

This server is different. It has sins and archers and many of the other class skills arent quite the same. Wiz has been made much weaker but I dont want them like every other mir just better than they are.

Plus balancing them at level 30 doesnt mean they are balanced when they r level 40 which will change again around 45 and again and again later.
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Xele did fine with things as they were and now they have been upped. Maybe it's enough.
 
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jez

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the wiz on acem2 were fine, you could do far worse than using them as a vanilla starting point.
and ditch this wiz pet master idea.
 

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I love how much wizzys whine. Sins have the most right but we know what our class can do ultra late game. Its a real shame no sin will have decent levels dark body ect anytime soon...

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