Refining Feedback

[Stoney]

I just want to get one thing out of the way, I'm not creating this thread as a troll, QQ or trying to get access to peoples private recipes.

I am looking for community feedback to see if anyone has had any luck with this refining system. I know personally myself I have done 30-40 refines over multiple characters and never got past +2, Refines that have worked for me haven't for another person and I don't think I've yet had a refine which has worked twice on two different weapons.

Personally I've only refined Magestaffs. I have been working with 3 different people on recipes and different refines and none of us have had any luck.

Every person I have spoken to has now given up on the refine system. Durability loss isn't our issue it seems everything just breaks.

Refines was something I really loved from Dragonserver having spent millions working out my own recipes to make +10 magestaffs.

I'm looking forward to peoples feedback.

 

[Bay]

There doesn't seem to be any consistency - 1 Recipe will work sometimes and other times will not.

Considering they've clearly made the % of success a lot lower than other servers and upped the price they don't want people to be refining much.

IMO 100k is too much for a refine and I'm not sure how much the refining system has even been tested.

 

[Guccci]

its completely messed up bud.. almost seems like gem's, like a random chance

 

[onestone]

Doesnt seem to be any consistency.
I had 1 refine work and tested a few things out, always losing 3 Dura on every weapon - Blades and Staffs
The 1 refine that worked, i tried the same recipe but with increase in pura ore - shattered
I tried a refine which technically is better than the 1 that worked on the same type of weapon(more ore, higher pura, higher level item, more items) - shattered
Think the chances of success are very minimal and hasnt been tested enough.

 

[Babyhack]

I tested the refine system and get 2 weapons to + 6 both failed on the 7th go

BH

 

[Follower]

I tested the refine system and get 2 weapons to + 6 both failed on the 7th go

BH

I too got to +2 on a WMS then have never been past +1 again with exact same purity ores...

obviously by knowing how refines work you can get to +6 and beyond if needed, but can you explain or give any insight as to why the same recipes are failing several times over?

 

[lancelot1]

I tested the refine system and get 2 weapons to + 6 both failed on the 7th go

BH

With the ideal items according to whichever formula you devised?

 

[Samuel]

So, as I said when we implemented the system its changed ...

I have had the maximum out of a wep but then I made the formula...

What you need to remember is that the traditional refine system was well known to anyone who has ever read the source and was there for exploitable... I can and will say that Ore has never effected the chance of a successful refine (maybe if you used a ridiculously amount) and still doesn't... Stop focusing on the ores and focus more on the items...

Sam

 

[jez]

ppl want it too easy, so everyone runs around with +10 weaps.
100k is way too much, i agree there, 10k!!

 

[Stoney]

ppl want it too easy, so everyone runs around with +10 weaps.
100k is way too much, i agree there, 10k!!

I've never said I wanted it to be easy Jez I was just looking for community feedback.

 

[ziiid]

Sam / BabyHack

1 Question, With the refine picture you showed on the path to hell expansion there was 3 items and 2 ores. With the system now theoretically we could use 45 jewelry and then ores. Can you answer whether or not using an entire bag of jewelry is part or the system or can we focus on using recipes of 3 ish jewelry?

ZiiiD

 

[jez]

I've never said I wanted it to be easy Jez I was just looking for community feedback.

it wasn't a personal attack Stoney, an observation... refines are what? 2 weeks in and ppl havent sussed it yet (including myself) so my point was, it shouldnt be too easy and its for us to suss it.

10k fee!!!

 

[lancelot1]

Sam / BabyHack

1 Question, With the refine picture you showed on the path to hell expansion there was 3 items and 2 ores. With the system now theoretically we could use 45 jewelry and then ores. Can you answer whether or not using an entire bag of jewelry is part or the system or can we focus on using recipes of 3 ish jewelry?

ZiiiD

Yes please.

Also, did you test with recipes that are very close to your "ideal" ones? Say, PearlNecky if the 100% success chance recipe calls for SoulNecky? Does it drop down to 5% or 90% if you go half a tier lower? Are there even 100% success chance recipes that aren't outlandish (such as say 8x SoulNeckies for SerpSword from +1 to +2)?

Also, thanks for the info about BIOs.

 

[Jicaa]

Lower the refine cost to the proper cost and I'll start joining in with recipes o/

 

[NewHope]

It's always been about the jewels.
I used to use jewels which combined total when added (3xLifeNecklace(1-5)=MC15) was double or higher the current stat of the weapon.

So if I was refining a MageStaff(MC2-4) I would perhaps use 2x LifeNecklace(MC10) on the first refine.

 

[Stoney]

I'm happy to share 2x and 3x Life Necks fails for +1 on a magestaff.

 

[davey_boyy]

Refining weps is a huge part of mir its fun and good for the server but at 100k each attempt I wont ever be trying it 100k is ridiculous amount to be charged you spend enough on the items and buying of wep no idea just another stupid thing they put in to server amongst many many other things they changed for the worse put it back to 10k!!!

 

[Bay]

Cost definitely needs to be reduced - 100k is silly.

Takes long enough to get the ore without having to piss around getting the cash too.

 

[HarryH]

Haven't been in game since refine has been out but it sounds like the refine man is some sort of cowboy builder!

100k does seem steep though, I understand the need for money sinks but combined with the way the refine system is pretty harsh maybe you should only have to pay for a successful refine. Might encourage him to do a good job

 

[lancelot1]

It's always been about the jewels.
I used to use jewels which combined total when added (3xLifeNecklace(1-5)=MC15) was double or higher the current stat of the weapon.

So if I was refining a MageStaff(MC2-4) I would perhaps use 2x LifeNecklace(MC10) on the first refine.

Why not use 5 Convex Lenses for a WMS then?

I think it's a tad more complicated than that, else everyone would be refining Serps with 4 puri 15 and 10 Glass Rings.

@Harry (and @Sam, really): aren't there enough gold sinks? Raw cash seems rather difficult to come by.

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