It 100% deserves a NEW thread.

[Xx69xX]

Me and and another Archer both 44+ With lvl 2 AB both with GOOD DC just decided to test AB now the games up

So we called a SIN as no warriors ingame

We both popped Deathly Aim, and BOTH Shot AB on a SIN and he went down to 1/3 life.

A SIN!!!!

Are you kidding me LOL

then I thought, lets try FS, I hit 70s.60s.30s.30s.40s.then one 100

I then found a warrior who potted through my hits with normal hp, while I was standing still and he was too, Imagine me running aswell, less hits.

Pathetic, You'll find me never moaning, as I only moan over something that warrants a moan, and by Jesus this does...

 

[Follower]

Can confirm, I was test dummy.

It is pretty shocking. AB needed a slight nerf, not to this extent.

 

[Babyhack]

Have you tested it on monsters?

It was adjusted on it's pvp side and only slightly adjusted on it's pve side.

But again as I said we are looking into it

BH

 

[Xx69xX]

Have you tested it on monsters?

It was adjusted on it's pvp side and only slightly adjusted on it's pve side.

But again as I said we are looking into it

BH

BH no offence, but no and I don't think I can even be bothered too. can you actually say with head held high, that its ok to be "good" for PVE but not For PVP. That's a poor decision. The fact that you even nerfed it for PVE is absolutely shocking... That's more fuel to the fire. How are we in any way too strong for PVE now????

Taos can solo bosses
Warriors can solo bosses
Sins can solo bosses
Archers could never solo bosses
No idea about wizzys, not played one

So what's the reasoning behind nerfing PVE too (not that I particularly care right now but I think you owe some reasoning as to why?) please reply?

I really cant understand this? I really need to know now, for my personal knowledge why you nerfed them PVE too? What was wrong with them PVE? I get you did a silly test with tashes equipment which may lead you to think it was too strong, fine im ok with that. (poor testing but fine) but during what tests did you accumulate that archers were too strong pve??? Because of the damage output from PVP??? If so then just lol.

 

[Doug]

Shouldn't just rely on one skip pvp tjo
1 v 1 war archer, decoy, static shot decoy near war wars is slowed down via flinch + 1-2 pots worth of damage, ice shot fliched war, repeat till Ice procs then AB war, repeat this draining wars pots till he's forced to tt, as ranged you shouldn't let a war get close to you best he can do here is SD, time ya shots right you'll hit him out of SD,

war needs to 1-2 hit you as he struggles getting close enough to hit,

if archer can do stupid damage in 1 hit where's it fair on melee?

If it still does high damage on pve then this balance is perfect, hopefully luck will make AB hit high end more often, random like FS is perfect, especially when wizards are 1 shot by archers and can't do much damage to an archer,

 

[Rollcage]

anyone even considered that its not the base damage of archers but infact the crit damage that was the issue here?
put archers back to they way they were before patch and lower crit damage by about 30% and go tweak from there as needed.

just an thought

 

[lancelot1]

BH no offence, but no and I don't think I can even be bothered too. can you actually say with head held high, that its ok to be "good" for PVE but not For PVP. That's a poor decision. The fact that you even nerfed it for PVE is absolutely shocking... That's more fuel to the fire. How are we in any way too strong for PVE now???? Taos can solo bossesWarriors can solo bossesSins can solo bossesArchers could never solo bossesNo idea about wizzys, not played oneSo what's the reasoning behind nerfing PVE too (not that I particularly care right now but I think you owe some reasoning as to why?) please reply?I really cant understand this? I really need to know now, for my personal knowledge why you nerfed them PVE too? What was wrong with them PVE? I get you did a silly test with tashes equipment which may lead you to think it was too strong, fine im ok with that. (poor testing but fine) but during what tests did you accumulate that archers were too strong pve??? Because of the damage output from PVP??? If so then just lol.

You should really compare how long it takes a Tao versus an Archer to solo WT. And Archers being unable to solo bosses is BS.

 

[Babyhack]

BH no offence, but no and I don't think I can even be bothered too. can you actually say with head held high, that its ok to be "good" for PVE but not For PVP. That's a poor decision. The fact that you even nerfed it for PVE is absolutely shocking... That's more fuel to the fire. How are we in any way too strong for PVE now????

Taos can solo bosses
Warriors can solo bosses
Sins can solo bosses
Archers could never solo bosses
No idea about wizzys, not played one

So what's the reasoning behind nerfing PVE too (not that I particularly care right now but I think you owe some reasoning as to why?) please reply?

I really cant understand this? I really need to know now, for my personal knowledge why you nerfed them PVE too? What was wrong with them PVE? I get you did a silly test with tashes equipment which may lead you to think it was too strong, fine im ok with that. (poor testing but fine) but during what tests did you accumulate that archers were too strong pve??? Because of the damage output from PVP??? If so then just lol.

Slightly adjusted on it's pve side

And again as I have said we are looking into it. AB was hitting 400+ on players and monsters at level 2, 600+ at level 3. This is overpowered and 1 hitting some classes, it was adjusted due to this.

Think of it from the other classes point, your a wizard or even an assassin, you get hit at random from distance by an archer with AB, that is that you are on the floor before you know what has happened.
Stuff like that should not be happening.

BH

 

[kickey]

BH no offence, but no and I don't think I can even be bothered too. can you actually say with head held high, that its ok to be "good" for PVE but not For PVP. That's a poor decision. The fact that you even nerfed it for PVE is absolutely shocking... That's more fuel to the fire. How are we in any way too strong for PVE now????

Taos can solo bosses
Warriors can solo bosses
Sins can solo bosses
Archers could never solo bosses
No idea about wizzys, not played one

So what's the reasoning behind nerfing PVE too (not that I particularly care right now but I think you owe some reasoning as to why?) please reply?

I really cant understand this? I really need to know now, for my personal knowledge why you nerfed them PVE too? What was wrong with them PVE? I get you did a silly test with tashes equipment which may lead you to think it was too strong, fine im ok with that. (poor testing but fine) but during what tests did you accumulate that archers were too strong pve??? Because of the damage output from PVP??? If so then just lol.

Tao's can solo bosses?

 

[Carribean]

anyone even considered that its not the base damage of archers but infact the crit damage that was the issue here?
put archers back to they way they were before patch and lower crit damage by about 30% and go tweak from there as needed.

just an thought

exactly what i have said numerous times

 

[Tai]

Rome wasn't built in a day.

 

[Carribean]

yeah and it also wasnt knocked down every stage of the build

 

[LordOfWar1]

The fact that 3/4 of people who rerolled, rolled a archer tells you that the class is op but I agree its crit damage that needs nerfing

 

[davey_boyy]

---------- Post Merge at 04:39 PM ---------- Previous Post was at 04:38 PM ----------

Me and and another Archer both 44+ With lvl 2 AB both with GOOD DC just decided to test AB now the games up

So we called a SIN as no warriors ingame

We both popped Deathly Aim, and BOTH Shot AB on a SIN and he went down to 1/3 life.

A SIN!!!!

Are you kidding me LOL

then I thought, lets try FS, I hit 70s.60s.30s.30s.40s.then one 100

I then found a warrior who potted through my hits with normal hp, while I was standing still and he was too, Imagine me running aswell, less hits.

Pathetic, You'll find me never moaning, as I only moan over something that warrants a moan, and by Jesus this does...

LMAO! this is hilarious! archers was so so OP damage for a ranged class OMG NOW A WARRIOR CAN OUTPOT YOU USING HP POTS NOW!!omg its so unfair! hahaha. Welcome to being a wizzy all classes have been able to outpot wizz using normal hp pots, Now you know how wiz have felt since the launch of the server!! Archers were OP now they are balanced get used to it you had your easy time 1/2 hitting everyone now you play normal class like everyone else grow up and suck it up and Learn to play lad x x

 

[ILovePie:D]

Slightly adjusted on it's pve side

And again as I have said we are looking into it. AB was hitting 400+ on players and monsters at level 2, 600+ at level 3. This is overpowered and 1 hitting some classes, it was adjusted due to this.

Think of it from the other classes point, your a wizard or even an assassin, you get hit at random from distance by an archer with AB, that is that you are on the floor before you know what has happened.
Stuff like that should not be happening.

BH

As a wizard, i've always expected to be 1 hit by people with greater kits, usually a warrior. Luckily on here, the tiger necklaces are a great defensive item.

Since playing on a friends Sin, i've had no problems in being able to kill archers, or any other class. Because i'm able to kill them in a few hits also (massive speed on Sin), I expect them to be able to cause considerable damage to myself too, if they land some good hits.

This is the same light, in which i've said that wiz should be able to output some decent damage too!

 

[davey_boyy]

all you archers Kingtony/Wong and exwizz always saying suck it up u TALK RUBBISH giving me negative rep when I keep going on about how weak wizzys are damage wise ahhahah now you know what it feels like.. the tables have turned now you are doing exactly the same as I always am complaining about how much wizzys suck, Pot kettle black?

 

[Exwizz]

When your hitting more with your weapon than you do with a level 40 spell at level 2 something is ****ed up.

 

[Carribean]

all you archers Kingtony/Wong and exwizz always saying suck it up u TALK RUBBISH giving me negative rep when I keep going on about how weak wizzys are damage wise ahhahah now you know what it feels like.. the tables have turned now you are doing exactly the same as I always am complaining about how much wizzys suck, Pot kettle black?

u struggle to get 40 mc thats why ya **** i have invested millions to upgrade my kit to smash people. ur just a baby that wants everything on a plate

 

[Jacko]

Rome wasn't built in a day.

This isn't remotely comparable to rome even in time scale or manpower.
though nice try

 

[davey_boyy]

u struggle to get 40 mc thats why ya **** i have invested millions to upgrade my kit to smash people. ur just a baby that wants everything on a plate

HAHAHAHA! as if you have your kit is pretty average you can get high DC very very easily on an archer plat arrows +12 dc the weps dc 30 compared to wizzys weps lol 8 mc??? and it doesn't matter how much mc you have on wizzys its poor I have used a mc 70 KIT and I can say the damage was under 100s each hit so you know nothing.... Get used to it archers are balanced now they never were before better learn to play better as you cant just 1 hit every now Ha!!!