Can we have some sort of reply about GAME BREAKING DEFECTS in game????

[ChaseyLane]

My post regarding brown pk bug .... Only response I got was an infraction really oh and a fob off about it being as old as the game itself (which isn't true)

Swamps post about taos being OP has no comment from BH or Sam even though its something that has been brought up multiple times and has now caused a player to quit

People are leaving left right and centre due to things like this, these are big user count destroying bugs which are very evident in the user count atm

Okay I understand you have your own lives etc but if the workload is too much then surely shouldn't you expand the team..?

This is not a malicious post or one aimed at moaning .... This post comes from the fact that were literally watching the user count dwindle away, don't get me wrong things are getting better like the drops etc that being sorted has helped but at the end of the day as server is generally judged by its user count .... You can have the best files in the world but if no bugger wants to play anymore its useless .... A server is only as strong as its user count

 

[Guccci]

Personally, I think that any person runnimg a private server, needs motivation to keep it going for longer than 6 months. And although most will hate the idea of it, the only way for that to happen is profit. If a server is not making any money, and people are genuinely just doing it as a hobby, then you can see why somebody would start taking longer to bring updates out / fix bugs.

The current game shop, is not going to make hardly any revenue at the moment. Most of the items drop from bosses, so people don't need to spend money... The exp potions mean absolutely **** all after level 42, because you would have to spend 30-40 quid on them for each level... The only thing I can see people buying at the moment, is the curse potions. And that alone is not makimg Sam enough money to quite simply care about the server like he used too.

There are too many carebares that play the server, to allow him to actually put anything on there which would actually entice anyone to want to spend money on the server.

 

[Mystickiller]

Personally, I think that any person runnimg a private server, needs motivation to keep it going for longer than 6 months. And although most will hate the idea of it, the only way for that to happen is profit. If a server is not making any money, and people are genuinely just doing it as a hobby, then you can see why somebody would start taking longer to bring updates out / fix bugs.

The current game shop, is not going to make hardly any revenue at the moment. Most of the items drop from bosses, so people don't need to spend money... The exp potions mean absolutely **** all after level 42, because you would have to spend 30-40 quid on them for each level... The only thing I can see people buying at the moment, is the curse potions. And that alone is not makimg Sam enough money to quite simply care about the server like he used too.

There are too many carebares that play the server, to allow him to actually put anything on there which would actually entice anyone to want to spend money on the server.

Haven't used any curse immunity's in the last 3 weeks seems cheaper with current rates to spend 300k every 3 hours warring guilds.

Most of the larger guilds have done the highest level content bosses, not really much for us to do except fight and even that gets boring with deva and people constantly rt'ing. Lol

 

[ChaseyLane]

Tbh why would people donate at the minute when the basics arnt sorted..?

The basics need to be sorted before they can expect to bring any decent revenue in

If things was as they're supposed to be most people probably wouldn't mind supporting the servers running cost abit more

The only reason the 100 or so active users have stayed atm is due to the files being a lot less buggy then other servers currently offer but let's face it that won't last forever

When you factor in that new servers are just on the horizon things like I've pointed out in my first post need sorting sooner rather then later as later will be too late

 

[Babyhack]

Very very very simply answer to this, I needed 24 hours away from the moans, cries and drama from some people on this forum.

Not sure if you have noticed but I am the ONLY person left replying to threads related to the server.
The ONLY person who spends time to reply to threads and reply to all of you.

I posted in the brown PK thread that the bug has been reported and that a fix was being worked on, what more do you want me to say.

As for the swamp rage quit thread, I did not reply to it because as I said I needed time off, sorry for putting my own well being before replying to a thread.

As for the server making profit, that has little to do with anything. I do this because I love Mir but as has been pointed out and it is the reason people like Milo left the team. Some people on this forum and on the server think we are a full time professional server company who should reply to PMs and thread within minutes. Working on this server is the most stressful thing I have ever done.

Some of you expect so much that it is not funny at this stage. I post more then anyone in this section, I reply to 90+% of the threads and messages. I work on the server daily, yet this is still not enough.

What more do you want from me?

BH

 

[ChaseyLane]

Less of an attitude would be a start maybe..?

As I stated in my first post if you feel its too much then expand the team there is more then 2 people on lomcn who can code

Do you think we are posting to annoy you or just maybe do you think the players care about the well being of the server too..?

As I also put in my first post this was aimed to be constructive yet there is nothing positive about your response

As I have also already said we appreciate you have your own life etc but is it really too taxing to make a 30 second post just letting people know of the progress of the fixes..?

 

[Jacko]

Very very very simply answer to this, I needed 24 hours away from the moans, cries and drama from some people on this forum.

Not sure if you have noticed but I am the ONLY person left replying to threads related to the server.
The ONLY person who spends time to reply to threads and reply to all of you.

I posted in the brown PK thread that the bug has been reported and that a fix was being worked on, what more do you want me to say.

As for the swamp rage quit thread, I did not reply to it because as I said I needed time off, sorry for putting my own well being before replying to a thread.

As for the server making profit, that has little to do with anything. I do this because I love Mir but as has been pointed out and it is the reason people like Milo left the team. Some people on this forum and on the server think we are a full time professional server company who should reply to PMs and thread within minutes. Working on this server is the most stressful thing I have ever done.

Some of you expect so much that it is not funny at this stage. I post more then anyone in this section, I reply to 90+% of the threads and messages. I work on the server daily, yet this is still not enough.

What more do you want from me?

BH

Relax take a day off, don't let people get to your head.

Also suggest you suggesting samuel to add some more people to the team since it ain't a 2 man job.

The only way this would be running fine is if someone would invest all his time into it which means he wouldn't have work.

But there is nothing wrong with issues. They are there to be fixed other there wouldn't be anything to do would there?

Anyways ignore forums for another nice 24 hours you can even ask milo or tai to ban you for 24h so you won't even be able to post if you'd want to

No need to get a burnout or something on this.

 

[Babyhack]

Less of an attitude would be a start maybe..?

As I stated in my first post if you feel its too much then expand the team there is more then 2 people on lomcn who can code

Do you think we are posting to annoy you or just maybe do you think the players care about the well being of the server too..?

As I also put in my first post this was aimed to be constructive yet there is nothing positive about your response

As I have also already said we appreciate you have your own life etc but is it really too taxing to make a 30 second post just letting people know of the progress of the fixes..?

I take a number of hours away and come back to a thread (in caps) moaning as to why 2 threads have not been replied to. TBH that feels like a personal attack on me for not replying to the thread. I do not know of any other game where staff are so active in replying to issues. No thread on this forum has gone 24 hours without a reply from me.

As for members of the team, that has nothing to do with me.

Threads like this one feel like a direct attack on me, they may not be designed to be that way but that is how it looks and feels as I am the only one that posts here.

I never said players do not care about the server, I know you do but none of you have to deal with all the stuff I get related to the server, you do not see the PMs or any of the Facebook stuff.

I work hard on this server, I listen to you all, I make requested changes for something after a bitchy moan thread and I get PMs bitching and moaning that i listened and changed something.

I am not going to post and say that I will reply more as TBH I reply more then anyone. I am also not going to post on threads saying that bug will be fixed in a day when I have no way of knowing it it will be or not.

My post above was not an attack on you, I was a general comment.

BH

 

[ChaseyLane]

None of my threads are aimed as a personal attack BH if anything me and the rest of the players are trying to provide ideas in ways that can help you such as suggesting expanding the team.

I know all too well how annoying being a GM can be and how difficult it is to keep everybody happy all of the time.

As I said before a lot of improvement has come since you joined the team and we as players are greatful for the work your putting in to fixes & drops etc.

How about having a forum team member who solely deals with the forums and Facebook posts..?

This would free you up abit more time and also reduce any stress caused for yourself.

 

[Babyhack]

How about having a forum team member who solely deals with the forums and Facebook posts..?

I was added to the team to do the quoted role.
Since then it seems to have turned into server manager.

Again my above posts where not ment to come accross as attacks I was just pointing out the facts.

I fully understand where you are coming from and I would love to be able to fix and add things to the server at a much faster rate but my job and family always come first. As stated before and as much as I love Mir this is only a hobby.

Now if some of you want to pay me a salary to quit my job and work on the server full time then I have no problem with that.

BH

 

[ChaseyLane]

Fair play dude well it might be worth chatting to Sam about adding more people mate

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When I win the lottery I'll happily pay you to run the server lol I'll be playing from my super PC on my moon base :P

 

[Doug]

What more do you want from me?

BH

just your patience with the community to last longer I'd personally hate for you to loose total interest in it and give up and you and Sam to close to server, this server saves me a fortune of going out to the pub with the lads every night to cure Boredom

 

[ChaseyLane]

Lmao Doug +1

 

[d1craig]

The fact Sam has posted in another section on Lomcn saying he is working on the heroes files doesn't really help your cause BH

 

[Swampduck]

I didn't ragequit, i raged about the deva being as OP as it is, i said keep the deva the same and let the server run it's course cause iv had enough of it anyway considering im not even on that much over the past week or so due to being consistently bored and majority of the community on this forum and ingame is ****. Anyway gl with server

 

[Aluvian]

The fact Sam has posted in another section on Lomcn saying he is working on the heroes files doesn't really help your cause BH

I think this is more the issue BH can only do so much, updates bug fixes etc are more SAMs forte and have almost ground to a halt by the looks of it. I don't KNOW but it appears SAMs got no time or a lack of interest in the server

 

[terriblen]

My post regarding brown pk bug .... Only response I got was an infraction really oh and a fob off about it being as old as the game itself (which isn't true)

Swamps post about taos being OP has no comment from BH or Sam even though its something that has been brought up multiple times and has now caused a player to quit

People are leaving left right and centre due to things like this, these are big user count destroying bugs which are very evident in the user count atm

It wasn't a player it was swampduck

There's the view that town fighters aren't the main part of the game and if you choose to do that then like buying chars its at your own risk because there's bugs like that on many servers and its full of possibilities of grief. There's a contest room and upstairs in store where the pros always used to go.

People are leaving the server for lots of reasons and I don't think deva is the main one at all and I don't think its gamebreaking. It might affect 1v1 harshly but in a group fight its less significant. Not everyone cares about pvp.

My opinion is that people are leaving because of the perceived injustices. It seems wrong that players can exploit a bugged boss and keep the swag. That known code geniuses make gamebreaking weaps and people buy them for irl cash and buy suspect chars.
People played that bugged to pieces exploited overrun with cheats USA server for 5(?) 3? years because they hoped that fixes would arrive. Waiting a couple weeks here isn't so bad plus ppl trust BH and Sam even tho they disagree with them.
Here you have non commercial p server and people want the same top level pay thru the nose individual instant response service with SWAT back up for the nastiest bugs.
Not getting at you chasey almost everyone that posts seems the same.

 

[HarryH]

I've seen more work done on this server by certain individuals than any other server I've played, and quite honestly it's incredible for a part time hobby. The server has been running for almost 6 months solidly and all of the big problems have been sorted. It's small ones such as SZ pk, small tweaks of spells and a few bugged mobs that take a vast amount of time to sort out and it's not worth the effort! Just learn to deal with them.

In my eyes it's similar to Medical budgeting I learnt at university:

It it costs you 1M to solve 50% of the problem
A further 1M for every subsequent 50%

So 50%, 75%, 83%, 89%

at some point the reward just doesn't match the investment as each smaller step requires the same input.

If you're still following my rant what I'm saying is most of the big stuff has been done and it has massively improved the server, a lot of the small things just aren't worth trying to fix, on any server!

 

[ChaseyLane]

I never said that the server isn't good but whether its the main reason people play or not the fact remains PvP is a big part of mir .... Especially when there are games like wow and tera that provide pve that mir can't match, so my main reason to play mir is PvP as is a lot of peoples

As stated before I appreciate that it isn't easy to run and server and keep people happy 100% of the time

The only people who havnt moaned that taos deva is overpowered are taos (wonder why that is)

The Tao problem just needs the commands removing so that requires very little fixing tbh as they're an addition made by the team

 

[bayya]

There was a survey early on which showed that less than 30% said pvp was their main reason to play. - not that they didnt want it just that it wasnt their main motive.
USA mir did a survey at launch which you had to answer the first time you got ingame and the result of that was that pvp was discouraged.
Mir2forever the carebear server lasted a long time and had a decent used count for most of it also discouraged pvp.
harryh is a tao by the sound of things
It should only really matter 1v1 situations. Surely if its a group fight then its less of a problem. I doubt many taos solo in the same place as a high warrior like swamp. So where is it that these devas own everyone?