OKS back to its original spot

[DiabloVodkaShot]

As the server is getting less of a user count I thought as an event (perhaps forever) if it works omakingspirit was to spwan in its original place. Reasons for this...
1.it makes better guild wars
2. It will encourage old players to return for this epic old skool PvP.
3.why would you put it in bed in first place...

Hopefully this happens.

 

[Mystickiller]

I quite like the spot its in. Once you kick the last guild out they struggle to get back in time to take it off ya.

 

[Unseen0202]

As the server is getting less of a user count I thought as an event (perhaps forever) if it works omakingspirit was to spwan in its original place. Reasons for this...
1.it makes better guild wars
2. It will encourage old players to return for this epic old skool PvP.
3.why would you put it in bed in first place...

Hopefully this happens.

Agreed

 

[ILovePie:D]

Keep it where it is.

The guild wars were great in euro, but always thought it was silly how people could get back there within a minute.

 

[terriblen]

Not really. because
1. It wouldn't make better guild wars. Why do you think it would?
2. The oldplayers that were there for those fights aren't playing here anyway.
3. Because it isn't euro

This has already been suggested and talked about loads. OKS in skel cave was a cba to take it out leftover from an event on euro. Many enjoyed it many never even went there.
There were fights when most of the players were 43+ had all their skills and kits they had built up over a couple of years. Everyone fighting had a recall set or 2 or 3 and a GT to assemble in first.
You think that's the way it would be here?

Main annoyance about old OKS. You could kill the other players over and over again and they would be back in minutes before you had time to finish OKS. (recall sets, plus 2 mins to get there any way)

 

[DiabloVodkaShot]

I just think its a little silly how there is so many bosses in one cave ie bdd. Just thought it would be interesting to test it in its original place for say a week

 

[HarryH]

Once lords are out it'll bring in the close to town pvp whilst still keeping OKS in BDD, it's a good boss there, it drops so well really the guild who draw the biggest crowd in one go deserve its drop.

 

[d1craig]

BDD has plenty if potential to more bosses in it. It's not silly in the slightest that it has so many bosses. 70% of the doors in BDD either dont work or take you back to other floors. They should all be made useful and add ghosts of other bosses in them.

 

[The NightAngel]

BDD has plenty if potential to more bosses in it. It's not silly in the slightest that it has so many bosses. 70% of the doors in BDD either dont work or take you back to other floors. They should all be made useful and add ghosts of other bosses in them.

This has some legs to it.
if i can jump your suggestion and adapt it slightly.

The 3 doors that don't lead to IZT could all lead to identical OKS set ups.
When OKS spawns 2 fake OKS spawn also. same everything aside from drop (give them a WG or WT drop file)
so you never know what room the real one will be in.

Guilds would have to try and get a handle on one of the rooms while sending runners to disrupt the other rooms/guilds in an attempt to find the real one.
Im not sure how easy it would be to code and ensure that atleast 1 real one does spawn.. even if it was a pre defined spawn room location/pattern that only the team knew so room 1, 1, 3, ,2, 3, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1 ,2, ,2 2, 3, 2,3, 2,3 2,,3,2,3,2.
and so on removing the random factor whilst still portraying random.

just a thought and have not really looked into it or thought of the negatives.

BDD being an endless cave would be a cool idea though. perhaps once you go through one of the "dud" doors you enter a random map of IZT/IKH/DD/IWT/KS and you must clear the boss before going onto the next level.
could raise an issue of too many X boss being killed so maybe introduce possible fake ones here too. i dunno just a brain fart,

 

[terriblen]

Which glorious golden age of Euro did you mean?
The year of the dupes and EM exploits when who ever had the best cheats ruled?
The time just after the Q system ended when Revival mostly dominated? (they had at least 3 full groups comin n going)
The short time next when Bens mafia mostly won the fights? (also around 3 full groups being recalled)?
Then it was tt. also 3+ groups
By this time the game was wrecked hax cheats exploits packets and there was nothing else to do. EM was broken. Server count went to about same as here or less. Some people only logged on every 3 hours to go OKS or to stand about chatting.

You want a regular fight time in a specific easy to get to location?
Like I said OKS was not even supposed to stay ingame. Not everyone plays to pvp
I cant remember exactly but I reckon euro had more no pk guilds than fight guilds.

 

[Mystickiller]

Which glorious golden age of Euro did you mean?
The year of the dupes and EM exploits when who ever had the best cheats ruled?
The time just after the Q system ended when Revival mostly dominated? (they had at least 3 full groups comin n going)
The short time next when Bens mafia mostly won the fights? (also around 3 full groups being recalled)?
Then it was tt. also 3+ groups
By this time the game was wrecked hax cheats exploits packets and there was nothing else to do. EM was broken. Server count went to about same as here or less. Some people only logged on every 3 hours to go OKS or to stand about chatting.

You want a regular fight time in a specific easy to get to location?
Like I said OKS was not even supposed to stay ingame. Not everyone plays to pvp
I cant remember exactly but I reckon euro had more no pk guilds than fight guilds.

EM exploits on euro? This existed? Guild I was had by far the most mir items due to the simple fact we hogged it 24/7.

3 Groups? Lol group of FF'ers was only 6-7 of us. Mostly against 2-3 other guilds every time.

Major hacks weren't til the last year, Q'ing was dumb. Cheats were always prevalent and always will be. Quit being such a hater and calm down.

 

[ChaseyLane]

As the server is getting less of a user count I thought as an event (perhaps forever) if it works omakingspirit was to spwan in its original place. Reasons for this...
1.it makes better guild wars
2. It will encourage old players to return for this epic old skool PvP.
3.why would you put it in bed in first place...

Hopefully this happens.

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couldnt agree more dude OKS should live in oma cave the entire kr is specifically designed for that boss and makes for wicked fights

 

[Mystickiller]

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couldnt agree more dude OKS should live in oma cave the entire kr is specifically designed for that boss and makes for wicked fights

No it was designed for an event. Takes no skill to get there except a few rt bundles and all it takes is 1 person getting inside to last hit and get exp. Can't tell you how often a wiz would get through the line on euro and get the last lucky hit on OKS grab the drop and instant tt.

This idea would also encourage guilds to camp the bridge as OK is being killed, witch currently is difficult. Infact most guilds don't even venture into OKS KR without 8+. Lol

Example: OH WE JUST GOT OWNED AT OK, LETS GO WALL UP BRIDGE LOLOLOLOLOL :RpS_w00t:

 

[terriblen]

EM exploits on euro? This existed? Guild I was had by far the most mir items due to the simple fact we hogged it 24/7.

Am calm ty and not a hater. Just seems to me that there's some kind of memory twisting going on.
Apex were the people who first learned how to kill Em. Much harder than here. Then Revival
You say your guild had most Mir items because you were there 24/7. Revival? Got robbed? Got sold? No cheats there though.
Then Ben's crew had a lot mir items. Got sold for irl cash
I think the exploits n hax started about now
VillagePeople got a full set and got robbed
tt/word had a lot at the end

OKS u say you only had one group of 6/7 FF wiz but you also had at least one other group of wars and taos and 2 recallers(if its bens crew yr talkin about). They would dominate the server as revival faded but before ttword got strong with village people and shadow alliance showing up in between. Revival also had at least 2 recallers for OKS when they were strongest.

So all these really epic fights. When were they? How many people were there and who killed OKS most of the time?

My memory says there was a few weeks when there were epic fights.

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No it was designed for an event. Takes no skill to get there except a few rt bundles and all it takes is 1 person getting inside to last hit and get exp. Can't tell you how often a wiz would get through the line on euro and get the last lucky hit on OKS grab the drop and instant tt.

This idea would also encourage guilds to camp the bridge as OK is being killed, witch currently is difficult. Infact most guilds don't even venture into OKS KR without 8+. Lol

Example: OH WE JUST GOT OWNED AT OK, LETS GO WALL UP BRIDGE LOLOLOLOLOL :RpS_w00t:

Nice to see that you agree that OKS wasn't supposed to be in oma cave forever. But then I know you know the game well.
All these the fun we had was better then memories are wishful thinking I reckon.
There were more players who were more or less equal in levels kits and skills, more guilds and more recall sets.
Putting OKS back into oma cave given that door blocking isn't grief - or had you forgotten that? Changes the whole thing I think.
People didn't door block on euro until it became obv that no one was ever gonna get banned again ever

 

[Clintus2]

no one has mentioned Calacirian yet :-(

 

[ChaseyLane]

TT, rev and TM were fighting over OKS constantly.Tbh mystic moaned people will camp the bridge ... Good, it made it fun because you couldn't just show up every 3 hours and kill the boss

Every time you went unless it was silly o clock in the morning there was a fight for it which in turn meant that the boss didn't ever really get boring.

In my opinion that's one of the things missing from this server .... Its like everybody wants to play a fighting game but never wants to have to actually fight ....

 

[DiabloVodkaShot]

i agree ^^^^^

 

[terriblen]

TT, rev and TM were fighting over OKS constantly.Tbh mystic moaned people will camp the bridge

In my opinion that's one of the things missing from this server .... Its like everybody wants to play a fighting game but never wants to have to actually fight ....

They weren't fighting constantly because people left Rev and joined Ben or sa. People left Ben and joined vp or sa some even joined word.
A few Rev re appeared sometimes.
So the fights were never even and epic. There was almost always a guild that had the upper hand and the others tried to oust them until their numbers fell. Then it was someone elses turn to dominate.

But your right chasey. No one wants to fight. Most of the players don't play to pvp and the rest only want to fight when they are guaranteed to win and will grab any advantage they can to make sure of that.
OKS on euro is remembered because it became the only thing to do. You could grind to 50 for a statue. Everyone knew there would be no up dates nothing would change ever. Everyone had killed everything hundreds of times and mostly didn't even bother to go bosses any more.

Here there are other things to do and the possibility of updates and changes.

Maybe there should be a special spawn OKS in the old place once a week starting Monday, Tues the week after . Once it dies after a random interval 10 mins to 45 mins another spawns. During peak time so all the smaller guilds can go kill a boss.

Tactics here? Take the group that can kill OKS to kr before it spawns. Block the door. Game over.

 

[Dante83]

I like OKS being in BDD so I would say keep it there I did have some epic fights with TM on Euro when I was in KOTRT but like other people have said it's annoying when you floor someone and you know they will be back within a couple of minutes.

 

[Dorf]

They weren't fighting constantly because people left Rev and joined Ben or sa. People left Ben and joined vp or sa some even joined word.
A few Rev re appeared sometimes.
So the fights were never even and epic. There was almost always a guild that had the upper hand and the others tried to oust them until their numbers fell. Then it was someone elses turn to dominate.

But your right chasey. No one wants to fight. Most of the players don't play to pvp and the rest only want to fight when they are guaranteed to win and will grab any advantage they can to make sure of that.
OKS on euro is remembered because it became the only thing to do. You could grind to 50 for a statue. Everyone knew there would be no up dates nothing would change ever. Everyone had killed everything hundreds of times and mostly didn't even bother to go bosses any more.

Here there are other things to do and the possibility of updates and changes.

Maybe there should be a special spawn OKS in the old place once a week starting Monday, Tues the week after . Once it dies after a random interval 10 mins to 45 mins another spawns. During peak time so all the smaller guilds can go kill a boss.

Tactics here? Take the group that can kill OKS to kr before it spawns. Block the door. Game over.

I'm not even sure you actually played euro Dragon from some of the utter crap you've posted about gameplay. Firstly, the majority of Apex completely left in 2004 in August to go and play QGO's new server. Secondly you mention Rev and Word, yet utterly fail to mention Murder Inc, FOH, KOTRT MOD, Dark angels etc all of which were massive guilds that dominated server at times, and certainly were challenging Apex before the majority left. Village people? Who? Shadow Alliance? Who? Most people enjoyed euro so much because it was rare you got any boss WITHOUT a fight. I used to play silly hours like 10pm - 8 am, used to hunt with Koopa, varaka EddieSW Incog etc, we were from diff guilds but were the night crew. Basically everynight you would cycle through bosses non-stop. Every boss involved a fight, that is what made it fun, the server was still fun up until maybe mid 2007 when the exploits and cheats started becoming major, up until this time most bosses were contested. Regards to the user count being sub 200, maybe at the very end, but up until mid 07 the count was easily still 500+.

Some people seem to have been playing a completely different version of the game I did, most annoying when you see a load of BS being passed off as fact.

On topic, I don't understand why OKS isn't in the normal euro place, it did provide hours of entertainment, and that's including tele rings recall sets para rings FF and all the rest. Strikes me that people don't like people coming and 'disrupting' their kill. That was half the skill of killing the boss, being able to subdue people trying to rob it off. Not that I play this server anymore, but it seems to me people like having it too comfortable.