Some words for the archers

[rainstone]

Dear team and the rest of players:

I have to say something about archers in this game.
As far as I know I found archer is the weakest career in the game now.

He does not have shell a as wizzd
He does not have very good PK skills (AB is still under fixing)
He does not have sin's speed.
He can not do massive killing and can not even play his role in field control in the battle now.
He do not have high level skills (other careers have 45+ levels skills)

As a wizzd, I used to be afraid of an archer. But I really do not care about them now because they could not do huge damage to me.

You can also see that there are less and less archers in the game,
I really feel sorry for them.

CNtroublemaker

 

[HarryH]

Once they have arrow barrage fixed they should be in a healthier position... They still have much higher single point damage than wizards which is very useful for frozen, orcs, evil mir etc

 

[Techno]

MagicShield is massively OP against archers thats why.My minimum hit with AB atm is 33x3(lame as hell but i know its bein fixed) i hit a wiz with lvl 2 magic shield for 11x3 lol...

let ur shield drop and il likely 1 shot u tho

 

[Exwizz]

I'm tired with archers now, i get that there's a coding error with a spell but seriously its been like 2month since the nerf and the class is so gimped its ridiculous.

Yes we have some nice SINGLE target dps but lets be real here, in fights we are the 1st targets because we have no get away and no defense, and with curse now we basically cant even move for 13 seconds.

I'd also like to note that the spells after level 38 are usless, piercing shot is a joke like wtf is this spell for seriously?


I don't want the gms to take my post personally but these are my feeling for the class i've played for 6months now.

I'd also like to note ive rerolled to wizzy because of the long ass wait on arrow barrage to be fixed.

 

[Jacko]

I'm tired with archers now, i get that there's a coding error with a spell but seriously its been like 2month since the nerf and the class is so gimped its ridiculous.

Yes we have some nice SINGLE target dps but lets be real here, in fights we are the 1st targets because we have no get away and no defense, and with curse now we basically cant even move for 13 seconds.

I'd also like to note that the spells after level 38 are usless, piercing shot is a joke like wtf is this spell for seriously?


I don't want the gms to take my post personally but these are my feeling for the class i've played for 6months now.

I'd also like to note ive rerolled to wizzy because of the long ass wait on arrow barrage to be fixed.

you be leve 40 by the end of holiday event

 

[Exwizz]

you be leve 40 by the end of holiday event

Im 45 with FF and blizzard. lol

 

[Samuel]

What is AB currently hitting in total? around the 100-150 mark?

And whats is the best kitted archer ingame? I want to make sure we get it right this time.

Sam

 

[HarryH]

Best kitted archer I've seen at the minute is mrtashonie or kingtony, I think Emily is using tash's ruthless bow though. I'm guessing between 100-110 DC on each one with plats

 

[ILovePie:D]

What is AB currently hitting in total? around the 100-150 mark?

And whats is the best kitted archer ingame? I want to make sure we get it right this time.

Sam

If you need a test char, let me know. Have the best kitted archer ingame.

 

[Exwizz]

What is AB currently hitting in total? around the 100-150 mark?

And whats is the best kitted archer ingame? I want to make sure we get it right this time.

Sam

Gimme 5mins and ill give you some numbers to work with.

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Ok

100dc with 40 bow level 2 AB Average damage on trainer 200-250

100dc with 40 bow level 2 AB Average damage on player 150-200 (with peaking very low to 10-5-5 ect.)

91 with 40 bow level 3 AB Average damage on trainer 250

91 with 40 bow level 3 AB Average damage on player 180-200 (with peaking very low to 10-5-5 ect.)

Ofc you can get a very rare good hit with AB but like i said its very rare.
Mostly its can just be crap hits from like 20-10-10 or something along them lines.

 

[Jacko]

Would suggest AB to not scale on luck or crit damage to prevent retarded spikes and worthless low hits.

and then make it hit something along the way of this
(AB only scales from top DC now)
level 0: hit 1(random number 0-20)+0.7 x DC 2 offhits (random number 0-10) 0.2 x DC
level 1: hit 1(random number 5-30)+1.0 x DC 2 offhits (random number 0-10) 0.3 x DC
level 2: hit 1(random number 10-40)+1.3 x DC 2 offhits (random number 0-10) 0.4 x DC
level 3: hit 1(random number 15-50)+1.6 x DC 2 offhits (random number 0-10) 0.5 x DC

examples:
Level 2 AB 100 DC would hit for 220-280 total on a target with 0 AMC
Level 3 AB 80 DC would hit for 211-266 total on a target with 0 AMC
Level 3 AB 120 DC would hit for 327-382 total on a target with 0 AMC

This would be fairly reasonable and doesn't make people hit the same number each time whilst being balanced

 

[Samuel]

Gimme 5mins and ill give you some numbers to work with.

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Ok

100dc with 40 bow level 2 AB Average damage on trainer 200-250

100dc with 40 bow level 2 AB Average damage on player 150-200 (with peaking very low to 10-5-5 ect.)

91 with 40 bow level 3 AB Average damage on trainer 250

91 with 40 bow level 3 AB Average damage on player 180-200 (with peaking very low to 10-5-5 ect.)

Ofc you can get a very rare good hit with AB but like i said its very rare.
Mostly its can just be crap hits from like 20-10-10 or something along them lines.

The tough thing with AB for me, is I really want it to do serious damage and scare people... But at the same time I don't want it to be able to 1 hit the lowered hp classes....

The problem is, ArrowBarrage doing up to a 100 damage per hit (300 total) is awesome, but archers/wizards barely have 300 hp at level 40, which leaves them incredibly vulnerable, Archers more so than wizards because they don't have shield.

Open to ideas/suggestions on this tbh... I have toyed with the idea of making it % based in pvp and your dc determining the higher %, but I am not convinced this is the correct thing to do :/

Sam

 

[HarryH]

If

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You aren't sure about making it a very high damage one off spell then possibly add the possibility of increased damage for a period of time?

For example:

Arrow barrage fires 3 shots

1st shot is a slightly weaker than full strength fire shot
2nd shot does low damage with a 1/5 chance of red poison at level if wearing the poison. Lasting 5-15 seconds
3rd shot does low damage with a 1/5 chance of slow at level 3 lasting 3-6 seconds

 

[Samuel]

LCD had an idea where the strength of arrowbarrage would depend on how far you are from the target... e.g:

Warriors/assassins would be fairly close in pvp as they are melee classes, so they are likely to feel the full 300 damage, where wizards/archers/taos are likely to be further away and there for have a reduced damage... This would enable some pvp skill to the spell also as you would really save it for a prime opportunity.

Sam

 

[Rollcage]

Archers dont do damage? kt hits me for over half my hp through shield with fire shot.
stop talking ****.

 

[HarryH]

But archers have slow cast speed and they can be potted easily. They are a DPS class and currently have no punch.

 

[Exwizz]

Archers dont do damage? kt hits me for over half my hp through shield with fire shot.
stop talking ****.

Learn to read the thread you sad individual.

 

[GimmeAKitKat]

Are you all joking? Archers seem OP if anything to me.

Couple Archers ingame have come close to 1 hittin me on 42 tao, iv taken hits from depress and plenty other hard hittin war/sin's and got away, stick bard or someone with even better dc on my screen and im rt'n, range hittin as hard as some of them do is ridiculous.

They have decoy, static and all sorts to help them in pve too.

What the **** they've got to complain about is beyond me.

 

[Rollcage]

Learn to read the thread you sad individual.

i read the first post...the one made by the person who made the thread, saing that archers dont do damage.

so shut up u prat.

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But archers have slow cast speed and they can be potted easily. They are a DPS class and currently have no punch.

Im fairly sure they have a skill that increases their cast speed

 

[ILovePie:D]

i read the first post...the one made by the person who made the thread, saing that archers dont do damage.

so shut up u prat.

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Im fairly sure they have a skill that increases their cast speed

And can also hit from ranged, using mobs around you also to get an easy static shock.

Archers are not gimped, they got a little nerf after AB got reduced, but they were always OP.

Don't get me wrong though, i'd love a good AB boost, fire shot hurts like ****, so will go back to archer again.