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Even if it was exploited on other servers, why should it be on this one? Done correctly with revamped features to make it more applicable to this server (such as the combination of classes needed to enter) and I think it would be a good addition.
 

Razarus

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Forget about a combination of classes to enter as once your in you can dissolve group and regroup with whoever you wanted to.

Try adding specific blockers to ensure the group always has one of each class, if they don't they cant proceed.
an example could be every 15mins everyone gets locked into a trap with 1hp but...

TaoTrap - Cant be killed unless its red poisoned.
SinTrap - Only takes damage from fatalstrike
WarTrap - Must Be Bladeavalanged
ArcherTrap - Must be static shot
MageTrap - Needs to be eshocked

The game will randomly choose what trap spawns and it grabs each character individually, This will ensure the group stay together otherwise they might not be able to help each other escape.
 

ChaseyLane

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That's an interesting idea razarus would enforce and ensure team work too :)

Could we have an answer from the gm team on whether or not BG is something that is do able on chronicles..? Also thank you for cleaning up the thread :)
 

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I did love BG on Euro just because its been exploited before doenst mean it will be again if the area is revamped and done properly which I am sure the GMs on here will ensure they do because I think there doing a good job. I also like Razarus idea and think that would be great to see put in.
 

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There are some very nice ideas here.

I think if done right, we can implement a BattleGrounds that's enjoyable and not with as many flaws as Euro had. Time limiting would have to be a factor and perhaps limiting the amount of times a character can go in per day. (No more than 3, for example)

This would mean it would be part of your daily things-to-do as a guild/small group, but not completely take over your other boss/Mir experiences, much like BG did on Euro/other servers.

Personally I don't think it should go in exactly as it was on Euro. A completely new map/routes/bosses would be far more fun in my opinion. People would need to start learning the quickest routes again and most effective, which is part of the fun!
 

Paloma

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Why dont you have a look at the other threads bout this?
I cannot remember all of the exploits but here are a few
Changing the group from 3 of each class to whatever u wanted at the last step
having multiple noobs so you could solo whenever you wanted
defeating the timer staying in as long as you wanted
 

Dante83

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Why dont you have a look at the other threads bout this?
I cannot remember all of the exploits but here are a few
Changing the group from 3 of each class to whatever u wanted at the last step
having multiple noobs so you could solo whenever you wanted
defeating the timer staying in as long as you wanted

Suggestions for making it fair and encouraging team work have been made above I think with the team this server has and some of the ideas made by other players like needing one of each class and a timer with new maps and only been able to go so many times a day I think it would be a welcome and successful addition to the server
 

horton

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I never saw bg being exploited on euro.
Surprised to hear that. It was exploited so much by so many.
The guys that do Ben's servers tried a couple of times but couldnt get it right. Think there was an almost fun version on another p server I played but it wasnt the same.
Seems the guys working on this server have the talent and expertise but maybe not the time. They've got a long To Do list before new maps get done.
And anyway euro bg was for levelling up to 42ish (unless you exploited solo on a FF wiz)
The biggest bosses were MTK and IZT. Most people gone beyond needing BG
 

Dante83

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Surprised to hear that. It was exploited so much by so many.
The guys that do Ben's servers tried a couple of times but couldnt get it right. Think there was an almost fun version on another p server I played but it wasnt the same.
Seems the guys working on this server have the talent and expertise but maybe not the time. They've got a long To Do list before new maps get done.
And anyway euro bg was for levelling up to 42ish (unless you exploited solo on a FF wiz)
The biggest bosses were MTK and IZT. Most people gone beyond needing BG

Just cause people don't need it doesn't mean people wont hunt it for more enjoyment. Also more areas to hunt might entice some new players to join
 

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I would love to see this cave on Chronicals. I used to level up here on my old Euro Tao, got to level 42 in here. There were alto of bug exploits that people did use but there are ways around it, i feel the best ones to make the cave enjoyable and keeping it similar in ways might be,

New map, keep the mobs teleing to you and keeping the mobs that were previously used, but also adding your own for around the outter circle of where the old Euro mobs were. 2 Hour tele time to accommodate the new size map, and using variables on the groups that enter to make sure you still have 2 of each class in the group if not it will tele you out of there. Also placing the final check to enter the cave at the very last click not at the start as it was on Euro and USA Mir.

The downfall to two of my suggestions is if someone has to leave the group for personal reasons (usually kids) then the group thats left will be teled out, also if a player dies it would need to be made so that they leave the group rather than stay in and revive in the town as the variables will still class this as there in the cave, but there again you could have it check the BG map for each players to see what map they are located on.

this would need to be confirmed by the npc developer to make sure this can be done or from coders as it might need adding.
 

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Just cause people don't need it doesn't mean people wont hunt it for more enjoyment. Also more areas to hunt might entice some new players to join

It would be level 46 + camping any of the bosses that did drop. Like Ghoul King now. And with 3 conections each pc would be easy to do.

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I would love to see this cave on Chronicals. I used to level up here on my old Euro Tao, got to level 42 in here.
Its a lower level cave as someone else said.

Agree it was fun but having a one cave where players can do almost all their levelling, get items from bosses and farm sub bosses for cash makes the rest of mir redundant.
Why not just have 2 BGs one for -40 another for 40+ like that pay to enter USA one?
 

Razarus

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Why not just have 2 BGs one for -40 another for 40+ like that pay to enter USA one?

I think pre 40 is fast enough already and does not need any new time or content spent on it. It may have been nice from the start but in reality its not something that would be big enough to draw people in for the 1-2 weeks it takes to get to level 40.
If there are players out there that would only return/start here for BG then its the 40+ BG that's relevant.

I agree that it will get camped, but this is where the team have to be creative enough so that it doesn't replace everything else but is interesting enough that it piques peoples interest.
Smart enough to not be exploited, stupid enough so that everyone understands, Easy enough to be rewarding, Hard enough to be a challenge, enough exp to make it worthwhile for higher levels, not too much exp that the lower levels fly up in level.

Whatever the team decide im certain we will be getting something exciting and new that none of us will have experienced before.
 

peterpan

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I wish I could be as smoothly sarky as you.
A nice pay to enter USA style map where you an level undisturbed by pk (mostly), grab a few mates when you have a kill boss token and never have to go anywhere else. If you could put the entrance in BW it would be really convenient too.
Sarcasm aside
this might be a good idea for the casual players. The entrance tokens should drop from some of the sub bosses too. Say buy a 1 week pass but get 24hr tokens rom subs.

Should make cash also. Seemed v popular on USA. 35+ and difficult to solo at first. Easy to solo at 44 but level capped so at 45 yr in a harder one.Make it so not too many mobs are TU able.
 
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