Sword Oma's

[evilwomann]

Why are these capped at 1 pet? Should be 5 I thought,

any info?

 

[Babyhack]

Why should it be 5?
Maybe it's a bug and they should not be able to to tamed

BH

 

[Razarus]

Im not sure what official did but to me this level 13? Spell needs to be capped somewhere.
I see only 2 options to ensure the wizard does not outrank the other classes in both survivability, single and aoe damage output.

The first is that pets will not damage players 5 levels below your level.
The second is that no more pets can be tamed past 49. (So you stick to the lvl 49- ones)

I can only imagine coming up against 4lvl7 swords with a lvl 7 crystalspider, whilst being almost 2hit anyway by a magicboosted blizz and meteor attack. All coming from a "glass cannon" with better defensive capabilities than 3 of the other classes.
The wizard is approaching breaking point in my opinion and pets is a plausible fix in my view.


Alternatively if this is a bug it needs fixing so that we can see the damage capabilities to prove me right/wrong.

 

[SmavidDavid]

Im not sure what official did but to me this level 13? Spell needs to be capped somewhere.
I see only 2 options to ensure the wizard does not outrank the other classes in both survivability, single and aoe damage output.

The first is that pets will not damage players 5 levels below your level.
The second is that no more pets can be tamed past 49. (So you stick to the lvl 49- ones)

I can only imagine coming up against 4lvl7 swords with a lvl 7 crystalspider, whilst being almost 2hit anyway by a magicboosted blizz and meteor attack. All coming from a "glass cannon" with better defensive capabilities than 3 of the other classes.
The wizard is approaching breaking point in my opinion and pets is a plausible fix in my view.


Alternatively if this is a bug it needs fixing so that we can see the damage capabilities to prove me right/wrong.

Can it be capped at 2 or 3.. also stick a level cap? / Make them impossible to reach level 7 in 2 hour slot?

 

[Tai]

Im not sure what official did but to me this level 13? Spell needs to be capped somewhere.
I see only 2 options to ensure the wizard does not outrank the other classes in both survivability, single and aoe damage output.

The first is that pets will not damage players 5 levels below your level.
The second is that no more pets can be tamed past 49. (So you stick to the lvl 49- ones)

I can only imagine coming up against 4lvl7 swords with a lvl 7 crystalspider, whilst being almost 2hit anyway by a magicboosted blizz and meteor attack. All coming from a "glass cannon" with better defensive capabilities than 3 of the other classes.
The wizard is approaching breaking point in my opinion and pets is a plausible fix in my view.


Alternatively if this is a bug it needs fixing so that we can see the damage capabilities to prove me right/wrong.

Got to be some benefits to out leveling everyone else, no?

 

[evilwomann]

I thought pets were only capped to 1 when it's a sub boss or spec pet

etc frost tiger
healer ant
k haz
cs

sword Oma's are like any other mob, Brwn frogs, blue frogs, venom spiders, all of which a wizz can tame 5

sword Oma's have always been tamabale at 52...

 

[Babyhack]

Ah sorry I see the other PB Omas can not be tamed

Still would 5 level 7 Sword Omas + Blizzard + MS with MagicBooster not be over powered?

BH

 

[Tai]

Wait til level 58 xD

By default you can tame pretty much everything, DarkDevil included.

 

[Babyhack]

Wait til level 58 xD

By default you can tame pretty much everything, DarkDevil included.

Might have to fix that :P

BH

 

[Varaka]

Got to be some benefits to out leveling everyone else, no?

this +1

---------- Post Merged at 10:21 AM ---------- Previous Post was at 10:18 AM ----------

Ah sorry I see the other PB Omas can not be tamed

Still would 5 level 7 Sword Omas + Blizzard + MS with MagicBooster not be over powered?

BH

some reward of months and months of lvling?

what would be the point if do all that lvling just for the repulse advantage.

 

[HarryH]

Having blizzard and met strike means you can spam them non stop in rotation - negating each of the spells cool downs. Having a load of pets in there just makes it instant death, but hey that's a wizard

 

[Razarus]

Got to be some benefits to out leveling everyone else, no?

Absolutely, things like leveling new spells, being able to repulse everyone else.
I'm all for development and improving as people achieve levels that some of us will never ever hit.
Balance is an ever long battle, that's near on impossible to perfect.

I think 5 swords + those level 3 high tier spells would be overpowered. I cant imagine any other class at 52 standing even the slightest chance against these odds.
I guess we wont know until we see it.
Just putting my thoughts out there.

 

[Babyhack]

this +1

---------- Post Merged at 10:21 AM ---------- Previous Post was at 10:18 AM ----------



some reward of months and months of lvling?

what would be the point if do all that lvling just for the repulse advantage.

Im just pointing out it might be OP, I never said anything else but yes if you have put in the work and leveled that far you should be powerful

I asked a question I never stated a fact

BH

 

[evilwomann]

Imo 5 lvl7 blue frogs would be more powerful than 5 sword Oma's pvp wise

the Oma are really just a upgrade to brown frogs, they are so slow! They wouldn't be that op in pvp

 

[HarryH]

I'd like to see someone run and melee a wizard with 5 omas standing around it, they don't need to walk anywhere...

 

[Razarus]

what would be the point if do all that lvling just for the repulse advantage.

I don't think that's a valid argument. No other class' get a new use from a level 13 spell at 52, so are we saying no other class should bother to level?

 

[HarryH]

Nearly every boss fight on server is dictated by the number of wizards present - shows you their current influence.

 

[Sanity]

Some of the pets wizards can tame in mir is slightly ridiculous if you ask me, i know your following euro but never agreed with Sub bosses being able to be tamed, frost tigers, khaz, crystal spider, just silly imo.

 

[Tai]

Having blizzard and met strike means you can spam them non stop in rotation - negating each of the spells cool downs. Having a load of pets in there just makes it instant death, but hey that's a wizard

I think the cooldown should apply on both spells then. Similar to the global cooldown warrior's get when using BA/LR.

---------- Post Merged at 10:47 AM ---------- Previous Post was at 10:45 AM ----------

I don't think that's a valid argument. No other class' get use from a level 13 spell at 52, so are we saying no other class should bother to level?

Poison is level 13, no? It's a core spell just like repulse or heal, so I don't think that's a valid argument either.

 

[Varaka]

I don't think that's a valid argument. No other class' get use from a level 13 spell at 52, so are we saying no other class should bother to level?

Wizards are pet tamers, fine change it so I don't have to lvl up for better pets . Just give me sword oma @ lvl 3 E shock.

Every class should lvl up for pvp and pve reasons but if there is no incentive then what's the point? may as well just get max sc/dc/mc and gem the kit to +3 gg you have reached end game. Then what? get bored and quit?