Tao escape spell

[TheDayIDie]

As koriban was rude and decided to locked the previous thread before anyone could express their opinion on my idea I have decided to repost it. Flame away, positive feedback / recognition would be appreciated.

http://www.lomcn.org/forum/showthread.php?88154-Question-Suggestion/page3

I was thinking about this today and I think it would be good to have a spell something like 'SpiritWalk' which allows you to turn blue like an OKS spirit and run through monsters without taking any damage for a short period for like 2-3 seconds and have a big cool down of like 60 seconds. I feel this will put tao's back in place when running through caves to bosses etc. When I'm running to a boss with a guild 'especially if i'm in orcs, frozen or JD' I usually end up being like 10-15minutes behind them because I get stuck, have no escape and can't jump over the lures placed on doors whereas the rest can.

Yes as mentioned before we have Curse, Hide, Repulse and Pets but let me tell you something:
1. Curse does not help against ranged mobs that can para and freeze you, also if there is a door mobbed with about 50 mobs then cursing all of them to run in the door would be impossible.
2. Hide does not work on 50% of the mobs, I can hide in a lure 15 mobs and still have 6 attacking me which then when I cast pets the mobs still don't run anyway. Even if some mobs do follow the pets there is no way to make the pet move far unless your back is against a wall which then will teleport the pet randomly - this is a bad tactic as it gives you even less room to run.
3. Repulse is trash, if there is a mob behind the mob your trying to repulse it won't move unlike warriors shoulder dash. The repulse doesn't move the mob back far either and by time my repulse animation has finished the mob is nearly on top of me again giving me no time to move out of the way.

Also I was told that EnergyShield is rubbish for tao's themselves, I think it should be made self cast instead of target cast and buffed a little.

 

[Samuel]

As koriban was rude and decided to locked the previous thread before anyone could express their opinion on my idea I have decided to repost it. Flame away, positive feedback / recognition would be appreciated.

http://www.lomcn.org/forum/showthread.php?88154-Question-Suggestion/page3

I dislike the idea of players being able to rub through other objects, however, we do have mass hallucination coded... Maybe we could add this soon.

For those who are unaware of what mass hallucination does, it would cause a mass area damage causing mobs inside of it to turn on each other, which should provide you with some time to dig your way out of sticky situations.

Sam

 

[Sorry]

I dislike the idea of players being able to rub through other objects, however, we do have mass hallucination coded... Maybe we could add this soon.

For those who are unaware of what mass hallucination does, it would cause a mass area damage causing mobs inside of it to turn on each other, which should provide you with some time to dig your way out of sticky situations.

Sam

will it be the same like Hallu ? or will it work on all mobs? because atm Hallu dosent work on all mobs just a few of them

 

[Razarus]

horrible idea.
Tao's already have enough survival/crowd control abilities.
It is a rubbish Tao that gets stuck for more than 5 seconds.

 

[CrazyBear...]

I really don't think we need anything like this, taoists are pretty much perfect how they are. We are meant to be a support class, not some tank who can just run through mobs to a boss without any consequences, try using team work instead of crying for a new skill which makes just a taoist's life easier, run together to a boss as a guild, help each other. You have basically dismissed all the other skills which I would argue are invaluable, hide is fantastic in the right situations, pets do take agro very well, we also have trap hex and hallucination.

I agree with the energy shield point, this is pretty useless, I think EM is the only decent place this works, horrible for PvP. I've said all along they should add the crystal armour effect to it so its worthwhile using in PvP.

 

[Samuel]

will it be the same like Hallu ? or will it work on all mobs? because atm Hallu dosent work on all mobs just a few of them

Would work like current Hallu does, should work on all mobs with the correct level with the exception of bosses/handful of powerful mobs.

Sam

 

[TheDayIDie]

run through mobs to a boss without any consequences, try using team work instead of crying for a new skill which makes just a taoist's life easier, run together to a boss as a guild, help each other. You have basically dismissed all the other skills which I would argue are invaluable,

lol @ this, when recall set is nerfed in more maps then this will be valid

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I dislike the idea of players being able to rub through other objects, however, we do have mass hallucination coded... Maybe we could add this soon.

For those who are unaware of what mass hallucination does, it would cause a mass area damage causing mobs inside of it to turn on each other, which should provide you with some time to dig your way out of sticky situations.

Sam

Great and not so great in ways. I guess it will just be the same or better than lion roar.

P.S. with this area damage on mass hallu will we get the kill now if mobs attack each other? really sucks when you get 0 exp from a hallu mob

 

[Samuel]

lol @ this, when recall set is nerfed in more maps then this will be valid

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Great and not so great in ways. I guess it will just be the same or better than lion roar.

P.S. with this area damage on mass hallu will we get the kill now if mobs attack each other? really sucks when you get 0 exp from a hallu mob

Raise that in the suggestion section for currently hallu buddy, I will have a chat with team about it (part of my thinks you should get exp, other part is like wellllll... you haven't really tamed the mob).

Sam

 

[CrazyBear...]

lol @ this, when recall set is nerfed in more maps then this will be valid

You realise we've played the server for 10 months without a recall set? Again it's a case of someone wanting something to make their own lives easier rather than using skill.

 

[TheDayIDie]

You realise we've played the server for 10 months without a recall set? Again it's a case of someone wanting something to make their own lives easier rather than using skill.

Dont give me **** about 'oh we earned it', pay to win isnt earning. Once team get what they want they cry for nerfs on things. Recall is a game breaker 'fact'. A new spell to help with crowd control isnt.

 

[joking]

Taos dont get stuck when the group does their job and gets them through.. Leaving a tao behind to get stuck in the first place would be your first mistake :/

As for a "walk through" spell, probably not the best idea.

 

[CrazyBear...]

Dont give me **** about 'oh we earned it', pay to win isnt earning. Once team get what they want they cry for nerfs on things. Recall is a game breaker 'fact'. A new spell to help with crowd control isnt.

You are taking this thread completely off topic now, i'm not sure why you sound so bitter. Congratulations on being the first "tao" in 11 months on this server to ever ask for a spell to help with "crowd control", it's absolutely laughable when you go through the array of skills we already have, you seem to have issues with the skills already at your disposal so you're asking for more? logic.

 

[TheDayIDie]

You are taking this thread completely off topic now, i'm not sure why you sound so bitter. Congratulations on being the first "tao" in 11 months on this server to ever ask for a spell to help with "crowd control", it's absolutely laughable when you go through the array of skills we already have, you seem to have issues with the skills already at your disposal so you're asking for more? logic.

Sorry Mr I get recalled to bosses and pay for my items with real life money.

 

[CrazyBear...]

Sorry Mr I get recalled to bosses and pay for my items with real life money.

As i've already said, we didn't have a recall set for 10 months of the server and no one complained, and I also have never paid for any items with real life money. The way you are acting speaks volumes for how serious Samuel will take your suggestions, I advise trying to counteract my points about how a tao should not be running to a boss without team work and how they already have an excellent array of skills available.

 

[Razarus]

im a shlt tao .

whats your point?

you getting stuck in mass lures in mineral mines again? here is a tip for any taos that don't know how to use them.

Hide > Unrest Pets > walk hide > summon pets to you> walk hide > walk hide > summon pets to you > run through door
That is useful if your stupid enough to get stuck....

I would suggest not getting stuck in the first place, ideally grouping with someone that is happy to take the lure for you or share the lure...
but if you have to go solo..

If you dont get stuck but want to get past a collection of mobs...
Gain aggro > lure away > summon pets > hide > step hide> continue on route. !!!!! oh my gosh more mobs.. > Gain aggro > lure away > summon pets > hide > step hide>

If you have skills - Curse > walk between mobs..
If you're a high level - Trap Hex > walk around mobs.
If you're a high level - summon pets > hide> repulse > step hide> step hide> repulse.

You also have lure to one side RT start again in a large number of caves..


you really want to run THROUGH mobs?
Maybe you could just have ignore all damage and 10kdamage bouncing sfb's too?

 

[xXxX]

Are you kidding me?

Tao's DO NOT need any buffs lol, im sorry but it seem's either the ones asking for this are bad tao's or their group does not help them though packed areas.

Of course there is a chance they are just after a free cheeky buff, which they think wouldn't get questioned much.

As mentioned before why in 10+months has this not been a problem/mentioned by tao's until 1 tao decides to? and now.. shock horror all jump on agreeing for a free buff...

 

[TheDayIDie]

Are you kidding me?

Tao's DO NOT need any buffs lol, im sorry but it seem's either the ones asking for this are bad tao's or their group does not help them though packed areas.

Of course there is a chance they are just after a free cheeky buff, which they think wouldn't get questioned much.

As mentioned before why in 10+months has this not been a problem/mentioned by tao's until 1 tao decides to? and now.. shock horror all jump on agreeing for a free buff...

Wizards are fine 10months without MagicBooster and now they are OP. So remove it then?

 

[Koriban]

Wizards are fine 10months without MagicBooster and now they are OP. So remove it then?

You sure about that?

Because from the vast majority of "wizzies are crap, I'm leaving the game" threads within those past 10months would disprove that theory. Wizards weren't great, MagicBooster just gave them too much of a boost - but a boost was needed. This thread isn't about wizzies, so lets talk about Tao's.

Tao's have so much at their disposal it's ridiculous. You are so well looked after on this server compared to Euro. Deva master target? Auto Poison and Amulet swap? Playing a tao doesn't even require skill any more. Back in euro days you had to have ammy/pois on your belt ready to press to swap over to in the right situation, had to hallu mobs that were taking your deva aggro so that deva would hit the right target. Had to constantly resummon pets for positioning. There's none of that now. You just press a skill and it'll happen or leave deva on master target permanently and it'll walk about following you hitting the target forever.

You have curse and Poison cloud, arguably the best crowd control spells in the game and you're getting stuck in mobs?

I'm concerned that you're complaining about other peoples incompetence in your group for not protecting you or getting you through to a boss and instead of realising this and telling them you need help, instead ask for your class to be buffed to compensate.

Perhaps people just don't understand how important tao's are on this server, single handedly swinging the side of a fight, you'd think everyone would help you get through and maybe you're assuming this - then that's your mistake. Tell them or they'll just assume you're fine getting through.

 

[sarafino]

Can't recall on any server over the many years of playing, that people have asked for this. Luring mobs, at times tricky if you're on a slow connection or lagging but overall it should be easy on pretty much any class.

I can only assume that you're one of your guilds weaker taoists/players and therefore aren't vital to their abilities to kill bosses. Although probably harsh by whoever your guild is, if you're not a necessity to the boss kill it's not worth their time / effort clearing doors I guess. My advice? Get better at all aspects of the game.

 

[Silencer]

Taos own. A skilled Tao is unkillable and can hunt for days without having to TT.

Trust me, I know.


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