bh , i so before they have a healing mass you mentioned before , and all class they have spell to learn but what now ? Only pluffing? Og goes make true your words dont stupid
The new skills to be expected?!?!@&£&
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Muh, the sun pots being "fine" is a matter of opinion. There have been plenty of threads to say otherwise, also a matter of opinion.
I have not played since the change so do not have an opinion eitherway as ive not tested it, not because of the change i just got bored and fed up of a number of other things.
My suggestion was more about making the tao desireable to have around. The sun pot thing given the number of complaints would infact make them desirable to many.
For those that find the sun pot thing "fine" would not be requesting tao assistance.
Just looking at the big picture, you should try it some time.
I have not played since the change so do not have an opinion eitherway as ive not tested it, not because of the change i just got bored and fed up of a number of other things.
My suggestion was more about making the tao desireable to have around. The sun pot thing given the number of complaints would infact make them desirable to many.
For those that find the sun pot thing "fine" would not be requesting tao assistance.
Just looking at the big picture, you should try it some time.
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Taos can solo most bosses ? What bosses can a Tao solo ? Apart from WT and ZT ( even so zt takes a really long time to kil with good kit ) This is the problem every time some one comes and says Taos are weak and need to be looked into or give them something worth playing people come and say oh " taos are a suport class " maybe they were a suport class 10 years ago ... like for eg Warriors should be a TANK class right ? well how come a Warrior on here is a DPS and Tank aswel ? even with very little AC they can tank more then a tao full buffed and full AC kited .
Every other class has it easy on here just taos need to strugle , you have those shitty buffs AC AMC lasts 3min + and the UE that lasts 2min ( and you need to cast it individualy on each player ) you have so many spells that you need to use , you dont have buttons to use them all even with Ctrl +F1-2-3 etc ...
You have 2 pets Shinsu and Deva , Shinsu should be the Tanking pet ... well when you summon it , it will spawn with Half HP , not worth lvling to lvl 6 because even in OMA LAIR if you go and he has like 6-7 mobs on him he DIES and that's a cave for noobs ... andother thing , in pvp Shinsu is to big so if he is on your target it's most likely you will hit your shinsu with sfb and not the person you fight with , pvp tao vs tao is the same , the other tao just rests his pets puts shinsu on his bottom and you cant atack him . Deva is walking slower then it used to , a Warr can Dash prety easy away from it , Sin can SS away from it ... and the deva has more HP then the SHINSHU , even with master target deva is not so much of a help as people think it is , if you fight an archer , he will just use statick shot and kill you easly with deva near you all the time , if you fight a wizz either he has 5 pets with him or he summons his clone , and spam , Blizz or FF and you are dead even with curse psn and all the other crap .
This is only my point of View like i said and some one above said aswell Tao's are good for Mining and that's about it , give Skeles some Pick axes as a buff and we are sorted this way we can mine even faster .
You people dont know much effort a Tao has to put in PVP or PVE and how much they need to strugle , for EG for a Wizzard it's fine to cast MB then SPAM BLIZZARD AND METEOR with no CD between them at all or even FF .
For a Warrior it's fine to spam shoulder dash ( a high warrior with BDA and AC/AMC kit you hardly can kill him because he just spams Shoulder dash untill you get bored of him and tt and leave him alone )
For a SIN it's fine to ShadowStep through walls ... it should not be possible to SS through walls like they do in Foxes and many other places . ( When they changed Fox boss so you cant RT in f1 , Toriblack was jumping walls in fox f1 and recalling all to the enterance to f2 then blocking enterance to f2 and killing anyone that was coming through the door .
I dont mind door blocking but i think it was not fair and still is not that people can jump walls .... if it's normal then rename the spell from shadowstep to " Wall step "
This is my point of view atm and as usual i expect many people to flame or troll because this community is realy realy bad when it comes to issues of the server
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What bosses would you like to be able to solo?
PS. Pm me ingame and i'll let you come heal me on some bosses.
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Haha
it's not about what bosses i'd like to solo it's about that most clases can solo or duo few bosses right ? just that taos cant or if they can do it to a boss it takes 10x times longer then any other classes that dont even use POSION ( apart from sins that have it ) the main thing tao was needed for on other servers since you could not kill bosses without a tao poison .I do not want ur poxy healing field stick it up ur arse and forget it ever existed. You want Taos to have a spell that will help other class spam sun pots are you ****ing kidding me????????? Propa silly selfish person u!!!!
Ur **** mate sun pots shouldn't even be Ingame we have energy shield I have no problems staying alive I can heal myself and everyone around me with two other spells. If I fight any other class the main problem I have is not enuff damage I get out potted by lvl 40 Chars daily. My sfb does the same damage as it did at lvl 24 I think. The only good thing going for a tao is a decent amount of holy at lvl 51 to do some lvling with psn cloud because psn cloud is ****ing useless too. Lvl 49 tao in top top sc lot and my top end spell does 0-15 damage the majority of them time.
People gonna troll this because they've delayed tao bugs long enough but enough is enough they need a damage improvement.
Ur **** mate sun pots shouldn't even be Ingame we have energy shield I have no problems staying alive I can heal myself and everyone around me with two other spells. If I fight any other class the main problem I have is not enuff damage I get out potted by lvl 40 Chars daily. My sfb does the same damage as it did at lvl 24 I think. The only good thing going for a tao is a decent amount of holy at lvl 51 to do some lvling with psn cloud because psn cloud is ****ing useless too. Lvl 49 tao in top top sc lot and my top end spell does 0-15 damage the majority of them time.
People gonna troll this because they've delayed tao bugs long enough but enough is enough they need a damage improvement.
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Re: The new skills to be expected?!?!@&£&
Taos aren't there to kill people in groups. You can curse people to slow them for damage classes. You can slow people with your auto lock on never miss deva. You can red poison people for an extra 20% damage. You can buff people to +8 - which can be 6 - 10% of peoples stats. You can heal your group. You can keep your group alive with resurrection. You can damage multiple people with poison cloud.
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Sorry, taos can duo most bosses in the game too. Just like every other class.
Taos weren't needed on other servers. I could solo DD, ZT, OK, MTK etc on a wizard. Poison isn't needed, it just speeds up the process.
Taos aren't there to kill people in groups. You can curse people to slow them for damage classes. You can slow people with your auto lock on never miss deva. You can red poison people for an extra 20% damage. You can buff people to +8 - which can be 6 - 10% of peoples stats. You can heal your group. You can keep your group alive with resurrection. You can damage multiple people with poison cloud.
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Haha
Sorry, taos can duo most bosses in the game too. Just like every other class.
Taos weren't needed on other servers. I could solo DD, ZT, OK, MTK etc on a wizard. Poison isn't needed, it just speeds up the process.
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As much as i agree with you , and i feel your pain because i always said Tao's aint good enough on here and people came and said " Taos are a suport Class " " Taos are fine i'm a tao myself " " you need proper kit for the places were you hunt for eg place with AC need AC kit places with AMC need AMC kit " " you dont play your class proper make another " " you dont have enough SC " ... well i did all the things people said and found out that it's still usless ,
PS: Few Sins and Warrs were running @ OKS KR with lvl 33 Armours on them because of the extra 3 DC ON THEM and were taking less dmg then me with buffs and AC KIT ...
Any way i dont think if you rage and talk trash to people will help us ... this will just get us ignored , we need to take a stand-in and make the server team see what we are trying to point out , because things are not right
When people complained that MagicBooster for wizz is OP , they came and said ... " you know how much time you need to invest to get to lvl 52 for the 24-24 extra MC buff ? " ( hope i am corect )
Well let me say this , a warrior full Speed DC kit and luck 7 from 49 to 50 makes 1% in 1 hour dunno if that's slow or noob or w/e , do you realize how long it would take for a TAO to lvl from 49 to 50 solo ? ( main reason i dont lvl any more and stuck @ 47 ) or you can take a warr with you and make 1% in 2 hours ? spend so many hours to lvl for what? you get nothing good as a reward to keep you motivated to lvl . oh and btw i think wizzards lvl faster
Any way end of the day we all play together even if we are enemies ingame , we can be friendly to each other on forums and act like normal people and i'm pretty sure most people even if they deny on forums and say taos are fine , they know they are not .
Re: The new skills to be expected?!?!@&£&
You're wasting time on this lot, they are completely clueless as to how to play a Tao. Tao's have never been an easy class to play but when played properly are a weapon to fear.
Making Tao's easier makes them over powered in the noobiest of hands. As mentioned in a previous post, the servers views on Taos is wrong. Taos are a support class but support is not needed due to the bosses states. Once these are reviewed a Taos roll will be perfect. Throwing more spells & higher damage will not fix a taos position in this server.
You're wasting time on this lot, they are completely clueless as to how to play a Tao. Tao's have never been an easy class to play but when played properly are a weapon to fear.
Making Tao's easier makes them over powered in the noobiest of hands. As mentioned in a previous post, the servers views on Taos is wrong. Taos are a support class but support is not needed due to the bosses states. Once these are reviewed a Taos roll will be perfect. Throwing more spells & higher damage will not fix a taos position in this server.
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DO you know how much time it takes for a Tao to do all those things ? you need to run and press a lot of buttons and do alot of juking , what is a wizzard doing in response ? Presses 3 Buttons , Blizz ( to slow / blue people ) then Meteor right after and if target still not dead he runs to it and spams FF till it's dead
PS: when you rez you are Locked in that place for a few seconds untill you finish the cast on the spell so it's enough time for any sin / wizz / warr to come and kill you , especiala SIN and WIZZ since they can get to you really fast you know i am right ! as for deva that can flinch you wile you blizz or ms ... it's not like you say , that deva dies in 1 blizz or 1 meteor , or if you have a smart warrior he will just LR IT and that's it , untill you can puri it back it's 50% chances you are dead , btw what damage is doing the deva to you ? 20-30-40 top ? wow so much damage so over powered pet ...
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Clueless ? did you hit yourself in the head with a rock ? The fact that it's a really hard class to play needs to give you more benefits ,and atm it gives you 0 , i can see you have so many clues when you say if taos get something worth playing lvling etc it will make them OP but , Spaming SD , BLIZZ METEOR FF is not OP when you hit for 1k damage in 2 seconds ... i'm out , like i said this community is really bad when it comes to issues and problems just because they are enemies ingame that makes them enemies on forums aswell
DO you know how much time it takes for a Tao to do all those things ? you need to run and press a lot of buttons and do alot of juking , what is a wizzard doing in response ? Presses 3 Buttons , Blizz ( to slow / blue people ) then Meteor right after and if target still not dead he runs to it and spams FF till it's dead
PS: when you rez you are Locked in that place for a few seconds untill you finish the cast on the spell so it's enough time for any sin / wizz / warr to come and kill you , especiala SIN and WIZZ since they can get to you really fast
you know i am right ! as for deva that can flinch you wile you blizz or ms ... it's not like you say , that deva dies in 1 blizz or 1 meteor , or if you have a smart warrior he will just LR IT and that's it , untill you can puri it back it's 50% chances you are dead , btw what damage is doing the deva to you ? 20-30-40 top ? wow so much damage so over powered pet ...---------- Post Merged at 10:18 AM ---------- Previous Post was at 10:15 AM ----------
Clueless ? did you hit yourself in the head with a rock ? The fact that it's a really hard class to play needs to give you more benefits ,and atm it gives you 0 , i can see you have so many clues when you say if taos get something worth playing lvling etc it will make them OP but , Spaming SD , BLIZZ METEOR FF is not OP when you hit for 1k damage in 2 seconds ... i'm out , like i said this community is really bad when it comes to issues and problems just because they are enemies ingame that makes them enemies on forums aswell
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I make 3% an hour at level 50/51. And guess what, I hunt with a tao, so they too gain the same ammmount of EXP.
Re: The new skills to be expected?!?!@&£&
I've played all 5 classes on here (using some of my friends high level and well kit characters - such as Tori and BIG)
I mained as a Tao - it has the highest survival rate and the best range of skills - I never had any issues with it. You can solo a lot more than WT and ZT if you know how to play a Tao - DD/EE/MK are but a few examples, I fancy a few Hell subs too!
I'm currently playing an Archer and they are the class that need the help / they need balancing in terms of PvE - PvP they work as designed but PvE is horrific.
I've played all 5 classes on here (using some of my friends high level and well kit characters - such as Tori and BIG)
I mained as a Tao - it has the highest survival rate and the best range of skills - I never had any issues with it. You can solo a lot more than WT and ZT if you know how to play a Tao - DD/EE/MK are but a few examples, I fancy a few Hell subs too!
I'm currently playing an Archer and they are the class that need the help / they need balancing in terms of PvE - PvP they work as designed but PvE is horrific.
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I said how a warrior lvls ... and at the end of my post i said : " i think wizzards lvl faster " duh ...
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Re: The new skills to be expected?!?!@&£&
Blizz and Met are both cancelled upon the wiz being hit. If you have deva lock on, and a timed SFB, you can cancel it from hitting you.
Yes taos have a lot of spells to use, what did you expect? You knew what skills they had before you started on here, you still chose to play it. I don't see Aso having a problem handling all his skills, taking down bosses or people. Why? Because he knows how to play his class properly.
Maybe you shouldn't have reclaimed your Tao, Audrey after you sold it. Then you wouldn't be having this nightmare?
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Great ... i'm a Sin.
DO you know how much time it takes for a Tao to do all those things ? you need to run and press a lot of buttons and do alot of juking , what is a wizzard doing in response ? Presses 3 Buttons , Blizz ( to slow / blue people ) then Meteor right after and if target still not dead he runs to it and spams FF till it's dead
PS: when you rez you are Locked in that place for a few seconds untill you finish the cast on the spell so it's enough time for any sin / wizz / warr to come and kill you , especiala SIN and WIZZ since they can get to you really fast
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Clueless ? did you hit yourself in the head with a rock ? The fact that it's a really hard class to play needs to give you more benefits ,and atm it gives you 0 , i can see you have so many clues when you say if taos get something worth playing lvling etc it will make them OP but , Spaming SD , BLIZZ METEOR FF is not OP when you hit for 1k damage in 2 seconds ... i'm out , like i said this community is really bad when it comes to issues and problems just because they are enemies ingame that makes them enemies on forums aswell
Blizz and Met are both cancelled upon the wiz being hit. If you have deva lock on, and a timed SFB, you can cancel it from hitting you.
Yes taos have a lot of spells to use, what did you expect? You knew what skills they had before you started on here, you still chose to play it. I don't see Aso having a problem handling all his skills, taking down bosses or people. Why? Because he knows how to play his class properly.
Maybe you shouldn't have reclaimed your Tao, Audrey after you sold it. Then you wouldn't be having this nightmare?
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Great ... i'm a Sin.
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Re: The new skills to be expected?!?!@&£&
I never sold nothing , char was shared , the share sold it , not my problem , this is another thing you are going off subject here but w/e
I never sold nothing , char was shared , the share sold it , not my problem , this is another thing you are going off subject here but w/e
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Re: The new skills to be expected?!?!@&£&
My replies were all on topic, and all valid points. If you can't handle playing a tao properly, maybe start a wiz.
My replies were all on topic, and all valid points. If you can't handle playing a tao properly, maybe start a wiz.
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Meh, Tao's only real problem as far as I can see is lvling them. Unless you have someone like Tori who can do insane amounts of exp and is willing to take a tao, it is utter shite trying to lvl one.
Used to be that most classes, melee especially, lvled faster with a tao, but that's not really the case any more. Its still more efficient to lvl with a tao, but its not as quick generally.
PvP wise they are what they are, Red psn flinch monkeys, nothing more.
A few minor tweaks would probably make tao's a lot more attractive to play and not effect the balance much. Make deva less glacially slow, give UE a mass cast of some sort and maybe combine the ac/amc spells, and give psn cloud, specially at early lvl's, abit of a boost so tao's can lvl themselves now that lvling is so solo focused.
On topic for the OP, im starting to believe the rumours that the majority of the supposed new spells genuinely aren't even ingame, you can barely give away EnergyShield and MagicBooster, yet no other skills have dropped.
Used to be that most classes, melee especially, lvled faster with a tao, but that's not really the case any more. Its still more efficient to lvl with a tao, but its not as quick generally.
PvP wise they are what they are, Red psn flinch monkeys, nothing more.
A few minor tweaks would probably make tao's a lot more attractive to play and not effect the balance much. Make deva less glacially slow, give UE a mass cast of some sort and maybe combine the ac/amc spells, and give psn cloud, specially at early lvl's, abit of a boost so tao's can lvl themselves now that lvling is so solo focused.
On topic for the OP, im starting to believe the rumours that the majority of the supposed new spells genuinely aren't even ingame, you can barely give away EnergyShield and MagicBooster, yet no other skills have dropped.
Agree Taos could use a boost at lower levels to help them grind quicker when solo. But 43+ they are fine.