I'm not certain building it would be worth your time as Its unlikely the staff will take it off you and use it.
The main reason for the thread.
If its something easy enough to build the staff would have built it.
I doubt it, The first point in your signature is an example of this. I've seen plenty of times(paraphrasing here)
It was spelt wrong in the drop file.
Drop files take time to write and test.
This tool would completely eliminate the first point, and eliminate some of the second point.
If its something pretty complex
Basically what the example drop file question was.
the risk of a player knowing the ins and outs of a drop "tool" with potential to exploit it, build in back doors and or pre defined guaranteed drops (if any of that is possible, i'm no programmer) would likely turn them away from using "outsider" help.
I completely agree, but there are various methods of preventing anyone accessing
I can account for this through a commit log/sharing the source code and not even having access to live data.
Last drop file i saw was along the lines of..
Xitem 1/10000
Yitem 20/500
Mass drop chance 1/10 > pull text file "massdrop"
1Dropsystem 1/1 > Pull text file "1dropsystem" > blades 1/50, staff 1/50, sword, 1/50, bow 1/50 redorchidring 1/5
pot 1/1
pot1/1
pot1/1
gold
Thanks for that, doesn't seem so simple as what BH made it out to be.
Line by line:
1. & 2. Fairly simple.
3. I assume from this code that mass drops are stored in another file.
4. Can only make educated guesses about what this(probably wrong)
5. 6. & 7. See 1. & 2.
8. Gold.
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I get what youre saying however i dont think the need to test anything can ever be removed, ever. It would still be necessary to test new drop files to see if theyre balanced, eg you wouldnt want 4 SOWGs dropping in 10 boss kills etc.
It wouldn't be idiot proof. If you put:
SwordOfWarGod 1/1
ofc its going to drop a SOWG every time.
So as well as testing for human error/making the creation of drop files a less manual process it coud potentially help foresee any issues with balance.
Sounds like a feature!
Run a report on...
How many SOWG's should be dropping per week, based on every boss being killed 50% of the time.
Plus as a programmer i suspect you're already well aware that the program you write to create drop files would also be prone to human error, as with all coding.
Of course, but as a programmer this is what we strive to achieve.
I'm all for both aspects of this idea (creation and testing of files) but as mentioned I cant see this being taken up so probably isn't worth discussing at too great a length unfortunately.
Thats a shame, I might just build it anyway. I think i'm going to post a discussion on other forums(as some of you have suggested)
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There was plans for this early on in development in the form of Achievements (along with first to level 22,33,40 etc) , but the launch was rushed and although all the graphics was all done, it was never coded. It was also missing code to check for it to be implemented in the future.
The main reason the kill count system was added was for the Achievement system, although iv been told the kill counts have been disabled now anyway, which makes sense as it currently serves no purpose and eats resources.
Possibly the reason why no lords have spawned
Hmm. Do bosses have a chance at mass dropping? Could it be coincidence that the first solo kill I had dropped completely differently compared to the now ~20 times ive killed it?
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Im at work atm
I'll do a full spec on the way home and see what people think get some of my thinking down on paper, maybe it will make more sense.
