3G Server
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- Dec 1, 2003
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Maybe I may be able to shed some light on this .....
When we first started we has JOB server, which came with and used for everything the Old style maps. I provided a server exe which Visio went through (top guy btw) and not only did he manage to add 6 magics (so in effect 7 left to add) but closed down a lot of back doors. Back doors are quite important to be taken out - once someone knows how to get GM or crash the server, then its very bad for the server host i think you will agree.
So we move on as it were to adding things, Mobs, Items and Maps are failry easy to add to the exsisting client - nothing new here, mainly getting right stats for things and of course having the files avail for the people so they can see the new stuff..
Lastly then - Map + Quests, the quests that came with job (hell of a lot of them) matched the npcs that were on the ground, does not matter really where they are placed as long as people know what town to go to and the X/Y. To use the new maps (euromir3) you need to alter a few things on the server :
MapInfo - so the maps all work and fit togehter well
MiniMap
Merchants - as old x,y will not work
Mobs - again spawns will need sorting..
So imagine if you may this before you start knocking Triton:
People played for AGES on the said OLD maps and yet no one single person complained back then they were too big. People are posting asking for Camelot to come back (amonst others) - which again was based on the old maps.
Now lets take a server running on old map (like Olypia) and lets see the work involved if he wanted to be with the "in Crowd"......
Get a new set of files as i stated so the new maps would work.
Update his client/patch so that it relfects the new maps, which means another client + patches to grab for the existing members and of course finding places to put the npcs or in fact do what the chinese have done and remove most of the quests...so in fact, back to square one (questless mir3).
There is no reason for example Triton could if he wanted to Im sure use the New server exe (providing it works well as I have pointed out). He could Maybe add the New maps, I have not tested them on old WIL files and def not going to start from scratch like Xander on translting a while set of files again just for the odd new thing...
When we first started we has JOB server, which came with and used for everything the Old style maps. I provided a server exe which Visio went through (top guy btw) and not only did he manage to add 6 magics (so in effect 7 left to add) but closed down a lot of back doors. Back doors are quite important to be taken out - once someone knows how to get GM or crash the server, then its very bad for the server host i think you will agree.
So we move on as it were to adding things, Mobs, Items and Maps are failry easy to add to the exsisting client - nothing new here, mainly getting right stats for things and of course having the files avail for the people so they can see the new stuff..
Lastly then - Map + Quests, the quests that came with job (hell of a lot of them) matched the npcs that were on the ground, does not matter really where they are placed as long as people know what town to go to and the X/Y. To use the new maps (euromir3) you need to alter a few things on the server :
MapInfo - so the maps all work and fit togehter well
MiniMap
Merchants - as old x,y will not work
Mobs - again spawns will need sorting..
So imagine if you may this before you start knocking Triton:
People played for AGES on the said OLD maps and yet no one single person complained back then they were too big. People are posting asking for Camelot to come back (amonst others) - which again was based on the old maps.
Now lets take a server running on old map (like Olypia) and lets see the work involved if he wanted to be with the "in Crowd"......
Get a new set of files as i stated so the new maps would work.
Update his client/patch so that it relfects the new maps, which means another client + patches to grab for the existing members and of course finding places to put the npcs or in fact do what the chinese have done and remove most of the quests...so in fact, back to square one (questless mir3).
There is no reason for example Triton could if he wanted to Im sure use the New server exe (providing it works well as I have pointed out). He could Maybe add the New maps, I have not tested them on old WIL files and def not going to start from scratch like Xander on translting a while set of files again just for the odd new thing...
if peeps keep demanding the new euromirmaps which in my opinion r small and boring in comparation with the full setup (complete world of Mir) we will most certainly put them in as additional maps...tested that ages ago on Olymp (usinf 2.9 server at that time) which will boost the playing world by about 30% in size lol so peeps can either play the real Mir world or the little euromir part of it...maybe the euromir maps could be used as event maps or stuff like this even the past bichon thingie from euromir2 can be simulated using the new "bichon" map
Yer I Prefer The Old Maps But Also Like the New Maps So I Can Try The New Ones And If Not Switch Yes I Am Translating The New Files And A Basic Set Will Be Released For Any One Who Wants To Use Them With The New Magics Working e.g. Purification n so on items/mob are done n the npcs are done so far im working on the new quests now
Xander said:
as u r working on the 3gserver u propably can say something about the db system used on them: is 3gserver dbsystem similar to the 1 used for JoB...so is it possible to just switch the server while using the existing JoB db-system (with added new spells etc of course)?
- Dec 1, 2003
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Had a brief go at this and this is what i can say tbh....
The maps, mobs, items are easy to add to old and new alike....
KingforEIServer - It comes ASPacked, if you run the server using your exsiting JOB files (thats not encryted) it comes up with a long line of Script errors. Looking at the files they supplied they are not encryted, so why it comes up with errors I dont know - but if you copy across the Envir DIR the server runs fine. Iused all the same files from JOB, only the ENVIR dir was replaced.
Now onto the next problem - every single client I have tried comes up that its not compatible, now maybe its something in the ini file that needs adjusting, if you delete the ini file, it recreates it. I used the EXE included with the server (new interface) and also cannot get in.
If you Un-ASPACK the file, you will see (if you understand the code anyhow) that all the backdoors that was removed from the last version (6-30) are back, Including GSA and the same password.
In a ideal world (if there was ever one) - the file would not need a INI file, be unpacked and Hex'able and be able to use whatever client that works. Maybe thats why Xander, you have choosen to translate the files supplied rather than work out why it cannot use the already translated one you had???
From what I have seen of this exe (KING), you get 7 extra magics (but with a few bugs I have read) but loose so much...I think Ill wait for VisStudio to complete his work instead myself...
The maps, mobs, items are easy to add to old and new alike....
KingforEIServer - It comes ASPacked, if you run the server using your exsiting JOB files (thats not encryted) it comes up with a long line of Script errors. Looking at the files they supplied they are not encryted, so why it comes up with errors I dont know - but if you copy across the Envir DIR the server runs fine. Iused all the same files from JOB, only the ENVIR dir was replaced.
Now onto the next problem - every single client I have tried comes up that its not compatible, now maybe its something in the ini file that needs adjusting, if you delete the ini file, it recreates it. I used the EXE included with the server (new interface) and also cannot get in.
If you Un-ASPACK the file, you will see (if you understand the code anyhow) that all the backdoors that was removed from the last version (6-30) are back, Including GSA and the same password.
In a ideal world (if there was ever one) - the file would not need a INI file, be unpacked and Hex'able and be able to use whatever client that works. Maybe thats why Xander, you have choosen to translate the files supplied rather than work out why it cannot use the already translated one you had???
From what I have seen of this exe (KING), you get 7 extra magics (but with a few bugs I have read) but loose so much...I think Ill wait for VisStudio to complete his work instead myself...
- May 13, 2003
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i run my server with no errors including using the KingforEIServer.exe
the errors are caused by not having the right language setup within windows.
and i got the KingforEIServer.exe to run by overwriting my old serverfiles with the newones then all worked a treat.
Only 1 problem i have found and thats when i kill cows pigs ect it drops lots of small hp pots instead of gold and fills my bag up totally and all the floor and laggs out totally.
the errors are caused by not having the right language setup within windows.
and i got the KingforEIServer.exe to run by overwriting my old serverfiles with the newones then all worked a treat.
Only 1 problem i have found and thats when i kill cows pigs ect it drops lots of small hp pots instead of gold and fills my bag up totally and all the floor and laggs out totally.