50 weapons... WHAT?

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reecew

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i agree if i'm honest assassins need some love... there is completely no use for the 45 weps can you fix these stats.

higher lvl item should always have better stats than the lower level.
 

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http://www.lomcn.org/forum/showthread.php?87765-Level-50-Weapons-Armours&highlight=

See the post I made months ago about 50 stats, plenty of time to discuss with the community about fair upgrades?

The below seem fair without messing things up too much
Warrior
40 = 5-40
43 = 6-50
50 = 10-60

Sin
40 = 10-29
43 = 14-40
45 = 16-44
50 = 18-48

Wiz
40 = 2-10
43 = 3-13
50 = 6-16

Archer
40 = 8-35 crit 2
43 = 13-47 crit 3
50 = 16-52 crit 3 acc 1

Tao
40 = 3-8 holy 2 acc 1
43 = 3-10 holy 8 acc 1
50 = 4-13 holy 8 acc 1

not bad stats in theory but the lvl difference between 40 to 43 and 43 to 50 are 2 different things
there should be a 46/47 wep with ur 50 stats imo.
then 50 items with a further stats.
 

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[/COLOR]MirBow 17-55 Acc + 3 Critical + 3
MirSwordWarrior 10-60 Acc + 1
MirBlades 21-51 Acc + 2
MirSwordTao 5-13 Acc + 1
MirSwordWiz 6-18 Acc + 1

You should make mir items scale like heaven armour does, so they evolve stats every 10 levels. This way you can keep the items better than the current "tier" for peoples levels.

This way you won't have a level 20 warrior with a DC60 Sword.

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not bad stats in theory but the lvl difference between 40 to 43 and 43 to 50 are 2 different things
there should be a 46/47 wep with ur 50 stats imo.
then 50 items with a further stats.

See the Sin weapon for example of a middle weapon

It's not really needed to have a 45-48 weapon around though, it's just introducing more content now that people won't need soon.

These weapons should have been thought about prior to people overtaking them in the masses?
 

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Your idea is not a bad idea.

I guess this idea will work out if there are somehow equal amount of different 50 weapons in game and also be hold in different guild hands:P


Not really the point if it does not balance across the other weapons

TBH I prob upped them a little to much (and I take responsibility for that) my thoughts where that these are level 50 weapons, the highest weapons in the game and should have the stats to reflect that, maybe I just see things different to others, we are all human.

BH
 

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You should make mir items scale like heaven armour does, so they evolve stats every 10 levels. This way you can keep the items better than the current "tier" for peoples levels.

This way you won't have a level 20 warrior with a DC60 Sword.

Not "inline" with Euro tho :P .. Mir weapons should be the best in game, so if they are thinking about adding 60 weaps, then yes I agree these items should scale per 10 levels
 

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Simply increasing original 50 stats by 33% I get:

PhantomBow 13-55 Critical + 3
GoldTigerAxe 4 - 63
ButcheringBlades 15-47
FanOfCrane 4-12 Acc+1 Holy + 8
LotusStaff 8-16

Thoughts?
 

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Then I guess the mir items should got boosted.
again, with these beast weapon, which kind of challenge are waiting in front of us?
I am also a PVE person.

Simply increasing original 50 stats by 33% I get:

PhantomBow 13-55 Critical + 3
GoldTigerAxe 4 - 63
ButcheringBlades 15-47
FanOfCrane 4-12 Acc+1 Holy + 8
LotusStaff 8-16

Thoughts?
 
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that looks alot better than it did before.

but something needs to be done about 45 weps as its a in between wep 43-50 but its worse than 43 wep kinda doesn't make sense at all.
 

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that looks alot better than it did before.

but something needs to be done about 45 weps as its a in between wep 43-50 but its worse than 43 wep kinda doesn't make sense at all.

There is only 1 level 45 weapon for 1 class. I have no idea why.

Also this whole thing started because the stats on level 50 weapons where less then the level 43 weapons and that did not make sense at all

BH
 

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Perhaps use the current mir weapon stats for 50?

War 10-60
Wiz 6-18
Tao 5-13
Arch 17-55
Sin 21-51

Then look at scaling mir items (all of them, not just weapon) to change stats every 10 levels.
 

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but why are the crap for?

43-45 and lose dc? surly the higher lvl you get the more rewarding the items should be.


not to mention the 43 blades are alot more common.
 

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There is only 1 level 45 weapon for 1 class. I have no idea why.

Also this whole thing started because the stats on level 50 weapons where less then the level 43 weapons and that did not make sense at all

BH

Should still be an upgrade from a 43 weapon, since 43 weaps drop more often than them
 

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but why are the crap for?

43-45 and lose dc? surly the higher lvl you get the more rewarding the items should be.


not to mention the 43 blades are alot more common.

I propose to make those blades 46(+1 level), give them proper stats and then introduce 46 weapons for all classes.
 

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Your idea is not a bad idea.

I guess this idea will work out if there are somehow equal amount of different 50 weapons in game and also be hold in different guild hands:P
exactley this ....soooo many whines...how many ppl actually have a 50 weap?the stats reflect the lvl....simple tonight i have pvp ed alfie and cn mortal i killed neither with my best kit ....alfie is quick so is cn alfie killed me twice(he s a monster) and i rt ed from cnmortal as flinches were fking me up *OP*ness i lol @ that. In a mobbed enviroment wiz v warr will be one winner only...towns are negated by griefers so what is a warrs problem again? bard was holding his own against me and winters....and b4 you say we are both **** at pvp we hit him plenty... he survived a x5 100+ blizz and got his own damage off.
I think when a few more weaps are out there the moans will diminish.....not our fault you havent had the drops and those that already had lotus staffs sold them or gemmed and broke them....tough luck i say.
Dont change the stats B/H hold your own against these constant whines and moans...yes i own a beutiful weapon now(irl also)hard work getting to 50 i think we deserve it!
 

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exactley this ....soooo many whines...how many ppl actually have a 50 weap?the stats reflect the lvl....simple tonight i have pvp ed alfie and cn mortal i killed neither with my best kit ....alfie is quick so is cn alfie killed me twice(he s a monster) and i rt ed from cnmortal as flinches were fking me up *OP*ness i lol @ that. In a mobbed enviroment wiz v warr will be one winner only...towns are negated by griefers so what is a warrs problem again? bard was holding his own against me and winters....and b4 you say we are both **** at pvp we hit him plenty... he survived a x5 100+ blizz and got his own damage off.
I think when a few more weaps are out there the moans will diminish.....not our fault you havent had the drops and those that already had lotus staffs sold them or gemmed and broke them....tough luck i say.
Dont change the stats B/H hold your own against these constant whines and moans...yes i own a beutiful weapon now(irl also)hard work getting to 50 i think we deserve it!

The stats only reflect the level if they add another weapon in between 43-50. With only the 43 weapon before 50, the amount of stats between them is clearly wrong.
 

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The stats only reflect the level if they add another weapon in between 43-50. With only the 43 weapon before 50, the amount of stats between them is clearly wrong.

7 mind numbing lvls of millions of exp grinds....dont think they are that wrong.Maybe players who have no appetite to grind it to lvl 50 may think this:friendly_wink:
 

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7 mind numbing lvls of millions of exp grinds....dont think they are that wrong.Maybe players who have no appetite to grind it to lvl 50 may think this:friendly_wink:

I've done the grind, and as I've said the stats are all wrong. Especially for a wiz with the way the mc scales here. The base mc is way too high, and the top end is too high.
 

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You guys complain you get killed quickly, yet you want more stats... I understand, it's perfectly logical to aim for more.. but what about HP? sounds dirty on a weapon but people die so easily on here...

Hockus, BH's first post about it kinda gave away 9 is either a typo or a mistake.. stop trying mate.
 

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7 mind numbing lvls of millions of exp grinds....dont think they are that wrong.Maybe players who have no appetite to grind it to lvl 50 may think this:friendly_wink:

The incentive to level drops when people realize there isn't anything interesting between 43-50, accessories give a small increase, and players who don't have all spells won't care what speed they level at.

Introducing a weapon in between these levels with stats in between that of a 43 weapon and that of a 50 weapon would create more interest in leveling, once i got to 43 on my archer and had the 43 weapon I became bored cause I didn't really see anything worth leveling for. I did have all spells, but there was no "new" spells to achieve, only higher level spells. At least with other classes there is spells near 50, which is why you push to reach those levels.