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If Forsaken wanted a weapon nerf you should've jumped on this thread with us. If you read it, it's essentially a team conversation with a few other sensible people thrown in complaining items are dropping TOO much. So you won't find anyone crying for more on our side.
If Forsaken wanted a weapon nerf you should've jumped on this thread with us. If you read it, it's essentially a team conversation with a few other sensible people thrown in complaining items are dropping TOO much. So you won't find anyone crying for more on our side.
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Its called server progression citrix, 43 weaps have been the top tier, they no longer are and people have something to aim for,
Granted stat boost should be accompanied by content requiring said boosts but from what im hearing that content is just around the corner.
They have had plenty of time to fix 50 stats but they chose to do it now. Maybe im reading into it too much but id say easter will help people get to 50, then the content will drop at the end of april.
Dont quote me bitch cause i aint said shlt.
Granted stat boost should be accompanied by content requiring said boosts but from what im hearing that content is just around the corner.
They have had plenty of time to fix 50 stats but they chose to do it now. Maybe im reading into it too much but id say easter will help people get to 50, then the content will drop at the end of april.
Dont quote me bitch cause i aint said shlt.
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If anything the sin dc boost is shlte compared to the war one.
Increasing all items by x% of their predecessors only increases the % difference from class to class. A poor design in my opinion.
If you look at 43 weaps. War dc 50 sin dc 40 a fair 10DC difference.
Now war 63(+13) sin 47(+7) the gap between war and sin is increased much much greater.
Wars having 25% more dc at 43 now have 34% more at 50..
That model does not work. The 25% was perfectly acceptable.
The weapns should have been
Sin 47 wars 61.
Or war 63 sins 50. Giving as close to the 25% standard difference.
If this method is used for all upgrades wars will soon have 100 while sins are at 65...
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Before anyone mentions min dc remember that wars ignore armor unlike sins so that min dc boost is swallowed by ac anyway.
The fix, highly unpopluar with warriors i can imagine but bringing 2 issues to a fix.
Slap some - aspeed on these weapons and then make them non storm gemmable.
Return the warrior to what it should be heavy handed hard hitting slow but devestating attacks.
-2 aspeed on the axe id say.
Increasing all items by x% of their predecessors only increases the % difference from class to class. A poor design in my opinion.
If you look at 43 weaps. War dc 50 sin dc 40 a fair 10DC difference.
Now war 63(+13) sin 47(+7) the gap between war and sin is increased much much greater.
Wars having 25% more dc at 43 now have 34% more at 50..
That model does not work. The 25% was perfectly acceptable.
The weapns should have been
Sin 47 wars 61.
Or war 63 sins 50. Giving as close to the 25% standard difference.
If this method is used for all upgrades wars will soon have 100 while sins are at 65...
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Before anyone mentions min dc remember that wars ignore armor unlike sins so that min dc boost is swallowed by ac anyway.
The fix, highly unpopluar with warriors i can imagine but bringing 2 issues to a fix.
Slap some - aspeed on these weapons and then make them non storm gemmable.
Return the warrior to what it should be heavy handed hard hitting slow but devestating attacks.
-2 aspeed on the axe id say.
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Raz please shut up, you talk utter bollocks on here.. Sins have aspees 8 and double slash which means even with a warrior who has aspeed 8 sins hit twice to a warriors one, secondly wars with max aspeed have put alot of time effort and money into having max aspeed. Where as sins dont need to spend a penny but can put it on slow etc instead, swings and roundabouts mate, so please stop thinking your some legend of mir advisor 2015 and back down, your pretty clueless, love ramb
Your in team now harry , lol tisk tisk, I am disgraced for you
on-topic , grats on a tiny bit of new content
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Tdb hits twice.
war and sins are balanced as long as you stat your sin correctly , go full dc and your gonna get mashed .
- Apr 25, 2014
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nah ramb your wrong... Even a gm will agree a warrior with 8 aspeed hits fast than 8 aspeed sin
(double slash animation hits a lot slower than tdb animation so the two classes are not balanced)
therfore sins are a lot slower and weaker you even have to cast flash dash and that's even slower not to mention max hit for fd is like 50.
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Ever wondered why its called TWIN drake blade and not SINGLE drake blade? keep up the good work ramb lmao
Lol you ignore the statistics highlighting for a FACT that the gap between warriors and sins is increasing with each weapon upgrade.
Gap of 25% increased to 34% (before rage)... the numbers speak for themselves.
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you get rage to make up for the loss of DC from aspeed items.
Next?
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You get agil? You get slow on kit which if wars want, makes a war kit even more risk factor and i just thought.. Ive played a war years and tdb does have a minor delay between each cast of it. Its a pointless arguement really. Sins have diff spells to wars. But personally there balanaced, lets take hypers kit and err inoob. When i had luck5 too, i couldnt stand there toe to toe with her, a few sins only way i can beat is dashing them. X
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You also get a spell that uses para like tdb and gives double damage is it? And that procs alot... Like i said swings and rambabouts x
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You also get a spell that uses para like tdb and gives double damage is it? And that procs alot... Like i said swings and rambabouts x
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no point having this discussion with you as you have no clue what spells do, even the main spell for your own class so I highly doubt you will offer much to this debate.
Ill finish by highlighting once again that the DC difference in growing between the two classes think pve not just pvp please. wars have aspeed8 and 30-40 higher DC with rage. sins are slowly getting weaker and weaker in comparison.
Boost sin 50 weap or nerf the war 50 one. the idea of adding X% from the previous item is just bloody stupid, no thought process whatsoever.
First attempt umm pick some number guys.
second attempt. lets just ad X% onto each of them..
why dont you PLAN and THINK. before giving items stats.
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Id erm give you an answer back but judging by your new topic post aimed at nerfing wars showed me your aim behind all of this. You clearly died to a warrior and didnt like fact you cant toe to toe him. You might have less dc but your spell that yellows player nearly every prog and makes it double damage, makes it even, please stop being a baby. I think gm's dont listen to you anyway. As on all threads you just bitch and whine more than a girl. X
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Like i said learn the spells.
Flash dash offers the same multiplier as tdb 20% that is not double in case you are not educated in percentages.
Its not an attempt to nerf wars, its an attempt to get answers for questions asked by more than just me.
btw everyone kills me, not just wars, I'm one of the slowest player in the game.
again please learn this game and its spells, maybe even level your own character and earn your own kit before offering any opinions on things you have no knowledge of.
Flash dash offers the same multiplier as tdb 20% that is not double in case you are not educated in percentages.
Its not an attempt to nerf wars, its an attempt to get answers for questions asked by more than just me.
btw everyone kills me, not just wars, I'm one of the slowest player in the game.
again please learn this game and its spells, maybe even level your own character and earn your own kit before offering any opinions on things you have no knowledge of.
- Apr 25, 2014
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Flashdash is 40% success rate and only does a 20% damage boost not 100% 
it also is very clunky so means to cast it you lose a full 2 hits in that time period, so unless you have high luck on your weapons it's only real advantage is stunning mobs.
it also is very clunky so means to cast it you lose a full 2 hits in that time period, so unless you have high luck on your weapons it's only real advantage is stunning mobs.
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was just correcting you on flashdash! They are balanced if both spend equal amounts. Say a warr spends 100m on speed, and a sin spends 100m on slow/agil they'd be equal at equal levels. I Could beat Ozzie or Citrix for example, and they'd have a good chance of beating me. But I will never, ever be able to beat alfie/badboy. Even if we were the same speed and I was their lvl.
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But yeah as you say pve assassins are a walk in the park. Luck7 Warriors or 130dc+ can easily solo DD/omaking/colossus though.
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But yeah as you say pve assassins are a walk in the park. Luck7 Warriors or 130dc+ can easily solo DD/omaking/colossus though.
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But yeah as you say pve assassins are a walk in the park. Luck7 Warriors or 130dc+ can easily solo DD/omaking/colossus though.
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But yeah as you say pve assassins are a walk in the park. Luck7 Warriors or 130dc+ can easily solo DD/omaking/colossus though.
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Thats all im saying harry, i personally think same kitted gold wise sins and wars are balanced i was fighting murdok or w.e hes called yday. And if i didnt dash him a few times id not win that fight, sometimes i facerolled him, all down to hits