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With everyone going on about 64 bit and duel core and intelD's i would like a bit of clarity please.

do all the chips with 64bit slapped on the box have two 32bit cores or is it just the amount of pathways and such its build inside? this question is about the amd and intels and if its not could you explain or even a link to a site about it would be great. building a computer for the new year and i would like to know the full ins and outs.


P.s is water cooling really needed or just a look cool thing?
 

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intel core duo is two 32 bit chips
intel core2duo is two 64 bit chips
A regular cooling fan is sufficient for both.
 

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intel core duo is two 32 bit chips
intel core2duo is two 64 bit chips
A regular cooling fan is sufficient for both.

Thanks. Just a few more questions if you please, for the AMD i have listed below which is two 32bit chips and which is 2 64bit chips?

Athlon 64
Athlon 64 FX
Athlon 64 MP
Athlon 64 X2

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kk heres something that might help -

amd are singal core up untill the 4000+ and on (dual core then)
literally all amd chips r 64 bit now
@ the mo ment the intell core 2 duo r the best u cn get .. the 4800+ chip dnt even touch it tbh

now imo if ur w8ing to splash out on a best chip i suggest w8 a bit coz there is a core quad comming out = 4chips in 1 lol

now as 4 ur cooling most fans nowadays own water cooling tbh .. watercooling is now a thing of the past imo

/dano
 

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kk heres something that might help -

amd are singal core up untill the 4000+ and on (dual core then)
literally all amd chips r 64 bit now
@ the mo ment the intell core 2 duo r the best u cn get .. the 4800+ chip dnt even touch it tbh

now imo if ur w8ing to splash out on a best chip i suggest w8 a bit coz there is a core quad comming out = 4chips in 1 lol

now as 4 ur cooling most fans nowadays own water cooling tbh .. watercooling is now a thing of the past imo

/dano
Shut up and stop talking crap.

Will edit my post as soon as i do some research :D.

Athlon 64 - 64 bit single core
Athlon 64 FX - Actually, i have no idea. I think it's also dualcore, both cores have their own cache.
Athlon 64 MP - No idea lol.
Athlon 64 X2 - Dualcore, both cores have their own caches.
 
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Some of the FX chips are single core, the higher ones are dual core.
 

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Right forget about what he said about Quad processors and the 4800+, you should get yourself a Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 for 2 reasons, if you overclock this to roughly about 3GHZ it can wipe the floor with the top of the range AMD FX 62, if you wish to leave it standard then its the equivelant to the AMD 4200/4600+, it beats the 4600+ in most benchmarks but beats the 4200+ in all benchmarks, so its deffo better to get that than a 4200/4600. As for the water cooling there is no need to get that unless your are going to mega overclock and there isnt a motherboard that lets you max the overclock performance of the Intel core duo at the moment, all you would need is a upgrade CPU heatsink that would cost you about £20/£30, it can be overclocked with the stock cooler as far as 2.7/2.8GHZ i think but its safer to upgrade the heatsink. Here are a few motherboards that are good for overclocking or just running you CPU off, Gigabyte GA_965P_DS3 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard or Gigabyte GA_965P_DQ6 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard, the DQ6 is the better model, but both do the same job, i would recommend one of these, if you dont want to overclock straight away it always leaves you the option for overclocking, as for RAM, Corsair 1GB DDR2 XMS2-6400C4 TwinX (2x512MB) something along those lines, good quality high performance ram, depending on the GFX you want, most games demand CrossFire or SLI, personally a single GFX card would suit me,the Sapphire ATI Radeon X1950 XT 256MB GDDR3 takes my fancy, looks to be a very nice GFX card for only £187, it really up to you tho. . I am aslo building a Intel core duo setup just now so ive been doing my research aswell, hope this can help ya make up your mind m8.

/Sic


Also im sure that the FX chips that are single core only go up to the FX 57, anythin above are Dual core, not worth buying these days i think tho. Overclocked E6300 ftw :P.
 
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Right forget about what he said about Quad processors and the 4800+, you should get yourself a Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 for 2 reasons, if you overclock this to roughly about 3GHZ it can wipe the floor with the top of the range AMD FX 62, if you wish to leave it standard then its the equivelant to the AMD 4200/4600+, it beats the 4600+ in most benchmarks but beats the 4200+ in all benchmarks, so its deffo better to get that than a 4200/4600. As for the water cooling there is no need to get that unless your are going to mega overclock and there isnt a motherboard that lets you max the overclock performance of the Intel core duo at the moment, all you would need is a upgrade CPU heatsink that would cost you about £20/£30, it can be overclocked with the stock cooler as far as 2.7/2.8GHZ i think but its safer to upgrade the heatsink. Here are a few motherboards that are good for overclocking or just running you CPU off, Gigabyte GA_965P_DS3 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard or Gigabyte GA_965P_DQ6 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard, the DQ6 is the better model, but both do the same job, i would recommend one of these, if you dont want to overclock straight away it always leaves you the option for overclocking, as for RAM, Corsair 1GB DDR2 XMS2-6400C4 TwinX (2x512MB) something along those lines, good quality high performance ram, depending on the GFX you want, most games demand CrossFire or SLI, personally a single GFX card would suit me,the Sapphire ATI Radeon X1950 XT 256MB GDDR3 takes my fancy, looks to be a very nice GFX card for only £187, it really up to you tho. . I am aslo building a Intel core duo setup just now so ive been doing my research aswell, hope this can help ya make up your mind m8.

/Sic


Also im sure that the FX chips that are single core only go up to the FX 57, anythin above are Dual core, not worth buying these days i think tho. Overclocked E6300 ftw :P.

thanks that clears alot of things up thanks. its been a while since i have built a pc, last one i did was a amd barton core and it was a project and we tec'd that sucker with a DD water cooling rig and juiced it up. im usually a sucker for amd but i couldn't overlook the new core 2 duo.