A plea/ temp solution for wizards.

[Falk]

Right im gnna say this at the start, If you're a retard who cant think beyond his own class and see the situation from a wizards point of view and your response is just gonna be "OMFGZ NO DEY GET TEE ESS AND EVERYFIN" then please leave my thread.

Wizards are the hot topic for debate at the moment, alot of people moaning about their damage but i find the real problem with wizards is solo hunting.
Wizards are supposed to be the most accomplished hunters but at the moment unless you have a full time tstorming partner or a guild thats hunts 24/7 hunting on a wizard can be very very frustrating.
Not everyone wants to go tstorming constantly it gets kinda boring just running around mobs and mashing one button... the exp is nice yeah but its very expensive and drop chances are minimal.

I myself like to log on every now and again go to places like MM, BC, insect cave and rmv looking for subs and possible drops to get some cash...cause otherwise how am i going to kit up?

Now this is made doable with pets... pets are not a necessity for wizards if you want to level by all means but they do greatly help especially when our damage is so poor at the moment.

The trouble i find is that once i have pets i know i cannot move from my chair until they untame (Which is kinda annoying). I want to be able to go to the gym if i want.. or take a 15 minute break without thinking "**** i better not i only got half hour left on pets etc etc"

Now we come onto the matter of aquiring sed pets... this is a time consumer in itself.. take ants for example if youre lucky you can get ants within 15 mins... but most of the time i find it takes around half an hour to get 4 ants and a healer which means you've already eaten into the time you would use to hunt with them!

I could go on but my hands are getting tired and im about to start work... my suggestion is to get rid of the pet timers please.. we arent on euro the game has moved on. Limit the levels they can level up too if you have too but just give us pets whenever we want for aslong as we want lol. Id rather 4 lvl 4 ants for a whole day than 4 level 7 ants for 2 hours.

Anyway was just hoping to get sams input and see what the commnity think?
I am under no illusion anyone who isnt a wizard will object to this... but ask yourself... is a wizard hunting for longer with pets really going to affect you that much?

 

[Razhiel]

i agree whit you 100% and btw wiz alone = what lvl is is a victim in 2 sec or got other option tt !

 

[blink]

Wiz are so used to being able to solo everything and now they cant. This is the whinge.
Seems to me this server is set up to discourage solo hunters. So instead of playing the same old way and tsing with another wiz and going off on your own, find a group of people who arent all wizards and hunt with them. More varied less boring.
I dont want wiz to have 4 level 7 of those frogs or even 4 level 7 ants because i doubt i have a chance of fighting them.
Wiz solo should always have been a target. This is the way it should always have been, strong attack dies easy.

 

[Clintus2]

100% agree with Falk

 

[gazzr]

I hear ya... I play solo all the time, I like to dip in and out of the game when it suits me... it's not fair to arrange a group hunt and then bail on people as soon as it gets going... so based on that problem that I've always had as a Wizz on every Mir server ever since Euro Beta, I decided to play Archer/Assassin on Chronicles.

Now, in response to the wizard thing... I would consider myself a career wizz on Mir, so I'm familiar with the problems they face. I first started to have pet problems when they would had a chance of getting killed just when you switched provinces on Euro Mir (due to the game being split over multiple servers at the time)... I've had pet problems as you describe but with a 2 hour ISP disconnection limit... so where I would be at /now/ as a wizard is infinitely better than it used to be.... hell you even have a pet that can heal other pets now! (I used to have a recovery ring in Euro for that purpose)

I don't think you will please all wizards by making the change you suggest.. a lot of wizards seem to love levelling their pets to 7 and ripping through some caves.... but I also see your point... so maybe a slightly different solution would work...

Create a new Wizz skill to have alongside the existing Elec Shock.... normal Elec Shock gives you the 2 hour limit and allows level 7 pets and Sustained Elec Shock will allow pets to remain until you logout / die / reboot.... giving wizards the choice.

Now, onto the negatives...the safe zones in town are crowded enough as it is... can you imagine them with 5 pets for every wizard in game until a reboot happens? It would be unusable....so you're looking at a separate area for resting pets, which would breed its own form of grief play where normal Elec Shock pets would be free to untame and kill Sustained Elec Shock pets...

I feel your frustration, but I'm not sure there's a sensible solution that wouldn't in some way inconvenience / annoy other players.

 

[JC/Raiden]

Wouldn't it be better instead to have a NPC which sells pets without a timer to untame? The draw back being...

*Very expensive to purchase?
*Limited to what's available, for example the best tamable pets can't be purchased?

And I guess its another way to flush gold out the economy.

 

[Falk]

Wiz are so used to being able to solo everything and now they cant. This is the whinge.
Seems to me this server is set up to discourage solo hunters. So instead of playing the same old way and tsing with another wiz and going off on your own, find a group of people who arent all wizards and hunt with them. More varied less boring.
I dont want wiz to have 4 level 7 of those frogs or even 4 level 7 ants because i doubt i have a chance of fighting them.
Wiz solo should always have been a target. This is the way it should always have been, strong attack dies easy.

So how come sins wars taos and archers can comfortably solo level whenever they please but it shouldnt be for wizards just because i have tstorm?

Is that the disclaimer i shouldve read when i made a wizard is it? "Just a quick FYI if you got a friend who plays a wizard mate you will tstorm up fast as **** but dont bother soloing because you have tstorm so why would u want to solo?"

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I hear ya... I play solo all the time, I like to dip in and out of the game when it suits me... it's not fair to arrange a group hunt and then bail on people as soon as it gets going... so based on that problem that I've always had as a Wizz on every Mir server ever since Euro Beta, I decided to play Archer/Assassin on Chronicles.

Now, in response to the wizard thing... I would consider myself a career wizz on Mir, so I'm familiar with the problems they face. I first started to have pet problems when they would had a chance of getting killed just when you switched provinces on Euro Mir (due to the game being split over multiple servers at the time)... I've had pet problems as you describe but with a 2 hour ISP disconnection limit... so where I would be at /now/ as a wizard is infinitely better than it used to be.... hell you even have a pet that can heal other pets now! (I used to have a recovery ring in Euro for that purpose)

I don't think you will please all wizards by making the change you suggest.. a lot of wizards seem to love levelling their pets to 7 and ripping through some caves.... but I also see your point... so maybe a slightly different solution would work...

Create a new Wizz skill to have alongside the existing Elec Shock.... normal Elec Shock gives you the 2 hour limit and allows level 7 pets and Sustained Elec Shock will allow pets to remain until you logout / die / reboot.... giving wizards the choice.

Now, onto the negatives...the safe zones in town are crowded enough as it is... can you imagine them with 5 pets for every wizard in game until a reboot happens? It would be unusable....so you're looking at a separate area for resting pets, which would breed its own form of grief play where normal Elec Shock pets would be free to untame and kill Sustained Elec Shock pets...

I feel your frustration, but I'm not sure there's a sensible solution that wouldn't in some way inconvenience / annoy other players.

Like i said this isnt euro the game has moved on.

The idea of two eshocks is a decent one and i hear you with the pets in sz issue but let me flip that on you.... if your pets didnt untame.. less griefplay surely?

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Wouldn't it be better instead to have a NPC which sells pets without a timer to untame? The draw back being...

*Very expensive to purchase?
*Limited to what's available, for example the best tamable pets can't be purchased?

And I guess its another way to flush gold out the economy.

Gold on this server is already scarce for MOST people now you want to charge wizards to hunt?

 

[JC/Raiden]

Gold on this server is already scarce for MOST people now you want to charge wizards to hunt?

I don't understand the complaint here?

Yes you should be charged for a custom service which saves you time, hassle & gives you an invaluable bonus feature in untamable pets. How can that not be agreed upon?

 

[gazzr]

Like i said this isnt euro the game has moved on.

The idea of two eshocks is a decent one and i hear you with the pets in sz issue but let me flip that on you.... if your pets didnt untame.. less griefplay surely?

I'm agreeing with you in principal..... but what I'm saying is we're in a much better place /now/ than when we were in Euro.... agreeing that the game has moved on... !

 

[Falk]

I don't understand the complaint here?

Yes you should be charged for a custom service which saves you time, hassle & gives you an invaluable bonus feature in untamable pets. How can that not be agreed upon?

I dont like the idea of having an NPC where you buy pets from that feels too p69 or mirrevenge to me.

Im not moaning about having to tame pets im saying the effort to tame pets especially in caves like foxes etc the reward should be better not an hour to an hour and a half of hunting. Most pets die on retame and it makes you want to punch the screen.

You have no idea how frustrating it is killing your way through st solo only to have your pets untame halfway thru 4th or outside kr.

 

[Clintus2]

A Guild territory would save the resting pets issue.

instant tame and 3 hours would solve all problems, i mean, what benefit is it that you have to waste an hour taming, you still tame so why not make it instant?

 

[Zed]

Possibly give a spell when you have 5 pets, using Eshock recalls them to you? - or give them a spell which lets you recall pets back to your side.

Give tame times 3 hours (also I love the 5 minute warning) - no I am not a Wizard either :P

 

[Varaka]

A Guild territory would save the resting pets issue.

instant tame and 3 hours would solve all problems, i mean, what benefit is it that you have to waste an hour taming, you still tame so why not make it instant?

Instant tame would take the fun out of swearing at the monitor " TAME YOU B*****D" after 5 minutes get fed up, kill it and find another.
TBH taming does not seem that hard here, but I really like the 3 hour tame idea as it doesn't make a huge change ( other classes wont start crying). It would solve the annoyance of having to re tame (with a chance of killing it ) once they are levelled and ready to go on the real hunt.

 

[Falk]

Instant tame would take the fun out of swearing at the monitor " TAME YOU B*****D" after 5 minutes get fed up, kill it and find another.
TBH taming does not seem that hard here, but I really like the 3 hour tame idea as it doesn't make a huge change ( other classes wont start crying). It would solve the annoyance of having to re tame (with a chance of killing it ) once they are levelled and ready to go on the real hunt.

Instant tame and a 3 hour timer could work.

The only trouble with that is when say ur running somewhere and just want to eshock the mob but it tames?

 

[FTM]

im a wiz and what I get from this thread is lazy fookers who cant be assed to go get pets leave as it is

 

[Clintus2]

im a wiz and what I get from this thread is lazy fookers who cant be assed to go get pets leave as it is

Minority View. would have credance but for language issue.

or to translate

You is but one voice blad! and like if yous dint use da swears lyke den yous woulda got heard propa bruv. and you is chattin shiz m7

 

[Xena25]

Anyone post a taming guide please?

 

[Dorf]

3 hr tame isn't going to work, pets on here esp higher lvl ones, are much easier to tame anyways, at 3 hrs tame time expect to see 5 x lvl7 red /brown frogs, or kektals or whatever.. consider you can get most a decent lvl in an hr, then can solo away in pb or other high lvl areas and kill stuff lots faster than anyone else.. wizz will get FF and FD for PB, I don't see the problem.

 

[FTM]

Minority View. would have credance but for language issue.

or to translate

You is but one voice blad! and like if yous dint use da swears lyke den yous woulda got heard propa bruv. and you is chattin shiz m7

I apologise for bad language but angers me people asking for things to be made easier its ok as it is let devs fix things that need fixing this is 1 thing that doesn't need changed

 

[The NightAngel]

This is only a problem for the casual player.
I don't tend to grp often as I need regular afk's (commitments/responsibilities) It would be nice to see some sort of instant tame or low level pet purchase but its not a priority and doesn't put me off playing.
Not sure If pets last longer on here based on MC but that might solve your concerns.