[Added 1.9.9.0] Lost Ship

[Mystickiller]

So a few guilds (one in particular) has been leaving chars afk in the kitchens (areas with no spawns). Is this as intended. I think it's a bit silly that once its closed they're the only ones that know spawn times or its already been killed during the window ship is opened.

My suggestion is to either

A) Kick everyone out of cave after an hour of ship closing.
B) Add spawns to these maps so that they have to clear these areas to afk
C) Make spawn times line up with ship opening to encourage more fights

 

[Babyhack]

Re: Lost Ship

Already reported and being worked on

Possible changes to included EE only spawning when ship opens
Kitchen map having spawns or just being removed
Players to be teled out after a set time

BH

 

[Paloma]

Re: Lost Ship

Exploiting going on? No surprises in mir are there. Will any one get their exploited items/exp removed? Wrist slapped? Anything?

 

[CrazyBear...]

Re: Lost Ship

We did some experimenting at the weekend, you can log off in 1st/2a and re-log back onto the ship even after it closes.

 

[Babyhack]

Re: Lost Ship

We did some experimenting at the weekend, you can log off in 1st/2a and re-log back onto the ship even after it closes.

Thank you for the info

BH

 

[rainstone]

Re: Lost Ship

Relog should not happen, But others are fine.

Think about ViperCave.
To stay in one cave and survive for more than 24 hours is a challenge. Furthermore, someones made it in Viper cave already and Killed every Yimi spawned. Why not lostship.

Sometimes a few players are so intelligent that you could not define if he is using bugs or not which were, are and will be in the game.

Lostship was designed for leveling in Mir3. But I do not see this point here.

We did some experimenting at the weekend, you can log off in 1st/2a and re-log back onto the ship even after it closes.

 

[terriblen]

Re: Lost Ship

Its different.
Yims is open at all times but you have to have a lost map to get in. Other players could come and take the boss from you or stop you levelling.
Lost Ship closes so that other players can not go there to challenge you.
That's an exploit.
Suggesting that only the intelligent can see these opportunites works against you. The intelligent should see that it gives them an unusual advantage.
Asking BH or sam or someone privately is always possible. That way you are innocent of any exploiting because you reported the situation to them.
Oh I didn't know it was wrong isn't an acceptable defence

 

[rainstone]

Re: Lost Ship

So your point is there should be another team to challenge you while you are hunting BOSS?

Its different.
Yims is open at all times but you have to have a lost map to get in. Other players could come and take the boss from you or stop you levelling.
Lost Ship closes so that other players can not go there to challenge you.
That's an exploit.
Suggesting that only the intelligent can see these opportunites works against you. The intelligent should see that it gives them an unusual advantage.
Asking BH or sam or someone privately is always possible. That way you are innocent of any exploiting because you reported the situation to them.
Oh I didn't know it was wrong isn't an acceptable defence

 

[MartialLaw]

Re: Lost Ship

Relog should not happen, But others are fine.

Think about ViperCave.
To stay in one cave and survive for more than 24 hours is a challenge. Furthermore, someones made it in Viper cave already and Killed every Yimi spawned. Why not lostship.

Sometimes a few players are so intelligent that you could not define if he is using bugs or not which were, are and will be in the game.

Lostship was designed for leveling in Mir3. But I do not see this point here.

Of course its a exploit, why do you think lost ship closes?... you log out in BDD 1f and get sent back to gi ry province, yet you think its fine to be able to log out in ship even when its closed? and have a free boss and then when it opens again its always dead? Does not take much intelligence to work out that something is wrong.

I Think EE should spawn when the ship opens personally.

 

[terriblen]

Re: Lost Ship

So your point is there should be another team to challenge you while you are hunting BOSS?

Don't be ingenuous. Obviously have the intelligence to see that I mean
there is the possibility that other players will come to the same map.
Other players cannot get into ship when it is closed.
You knew that. Took advantage of it. That's exploiting.

 

[KingTony]

Re: Lost Ship

Lol, you guys are out of your mind.. how in anyways is this exploiting?

The ship opens at a certain time and closes at a certain time... this giving everyone an equal chance of actually getting in the ship, and if someone was to stay in after it closes they are exploiting?

So if people just went into the ship to level and it closed are they also exploiting or is it just because people are killing the boss?

On mir3 you could stay in the ship how ever long you wanted regardless if it was closed, i just think we have a couple of morons trying to show their " intelligence" on the forums.

 

[bayya]

Re: Lost Ship

This isnt mir 3. Nor is it exactly mir 2 euro either. Tho it is more like mir 2 than anything else and every mir I played every map was open to everyone at all times except mystery cave and you got booted out of that when it closed. So on a hybrid mir its surely best to check rather than carry on doing something no one else is doing.
So yes I'd call it an exploit because other guilds would be staying there to level if they knew they could and no one bothered to ask the team.
Surely all the solo FFers would have been in there at least for a hour or so if they had known. Log there and yr right back in a good exping map even if the ship is closed to others.
Perfect for people who dont actually want to play the game and prefer not to see any other players at all so they can just level in peace.

Answer
Take the bosses out. charge more to get in put a potions npc somewhere charge double for pots and let the solo ers keep out of everyone elses way. No grouping tho so no passive levelling like standing in the corner in archers

 

[reecew]

Re: Lost Ship

why would they ever take EE out the game/cave for a reason that people stay in the cave when it closes... if they wanna waste countless hours thats theres to waste. no exploit at all grow up and play the game the way it is always expecting things to be changed to fit 'one guild'

 

[KingTony]

Re: Lost Ship

What? you want the boss removed because people are using this cave?

This map was bugged for over 6 months so **** if people are camping it?

I honestly don't see what the problem is.

 

[Mystickiller]

Re: Lost Ship

Fact is you can sit in rooms that have no spawns and risk absolutely nothing leaving an alt char there to kill it while ship is closed. Even more so you can log currently and just log back in for the boss when its awake. It's like going into BG solo on euro and having a safe area to afk or to log on a boss. I don't personally care as I don't go there but its a bit silly that one person can camp it consistently for weeks and there be absolutely no risk involved. Also the fact that one person camping a 1 drop file boss is seriously insane. These bosses are supposed to be group bosses and not "I have 2 hours to kill this boss so I'm not even worried".

 

[bayya]

Re: Lost Ship

I dont much care what they do with it. Now everyone knows you can log out there and still be on the ship after its closed to level or kill the boss.
I had thought they had opening time when people could go there to encourage people to go and fight it out in there. They are always trying to encourage more fights and many posters say they want more fights.
Tele everyone out when it closes or dont.
Letting some players access a map that no one else can get to seems against the way mir2 has mostly been. You seem to think its fine.
My suggestions were about people being able to camp a boss uninterrupted. I dont think thats good for the game.
I also dont think its good for a map to be closed to some players but still open to others.
But I would do something now that its been highlighted on forum.
and most of it was sarcasm

 

[rainstone]

Re: Lost Ship

Any update from BH side?

Maybe it is a silly argument, But I think it make sense:

which one is right in this server? the boat is closed so you must leave the boat map? or the boat is closed so nobody else can enter this map to level or BOSS hunting (the gap between boat open and close is one and half hour for you to enter this map, And it is open twice a day).

I dont much care what they do with it. Now everyone knows you can log out there and still be on the ship after its closed to level or kill the boss.
I had thought they had opening time when people could go there to encourage people to go and fight it out in there. They are always trying to encourage more fights and many posters say they want more fights.
Tele everyone out when it closes or dont.
Letting some players access a map that no one else can get to seems against the way mir2 has mostly been. You seem to think its fine.
My suggestions were about people being able to camp a boss uninterrupted. I dont think thats good for the game.
I also dont think its good for a map to be closed to some players but still open to others.
But I would do something now that its been highlighted on forum.
and most of it was sarcasm

 

[bayya]

Re: Lost Ship

this is a question that should have been asked as soon as someone found out they could log off there and still be there when it was closed to everyone else.

 

[rainstone]

Re: Lost Ship

My point is the logoff should not happened, but others are fine.

 

[CrazyBear...]

Re: Lost Ship

My point is the logoff should not happened, but others are fine.

Can you still log off in LostShip troublemaker? Not checked since reboot