[Adjustments (Info for players)] Drops

[Paloma]

So good to see this thread. The publicity is as important as the work of adjusting the files.
Please do not give out any information about the drops files of any kind. Not even a hint. Players should not know anything at all about the drop files.
If you really want to tell which cave has been adjusted to use it as a test please make it a middle ish one. Some people have changed class and there were new players at event all under 40.
But please as little info as possible.
To quote Sam
discovery is part of the fun

 

[ILovePie:D]

So good to see this thread. The publicity is as important as the work of adjusting the files.
Please do not give out any information about the drops files of any kind. Not even a hint. Players should not know anything at all about the drop files.

They are bound to be leaked, I can think of one little mir chick who's on PMS lately who knows a lot of stuff, and speaks to others reguarly.

 

[deano13]

Frozen Boss is crazy difficult for the reward. Doesnt even get killed cause its just not worth the effort. Same for EvilEmperor. Hard to get to kr and then killing it. EvilMir isnt great for the number of people you need/time taken.x

I thought EM could be killed pretty easy and was done early in game?

 

[Paloma]

badmouthing people before anything has even happened.
Lets wait and see shall we. Do you agree that players should not know anything about drop files?

 

[nic0666]

Knowing which items can drop does help with kit farming. Ppl find out and don't share with the hope to farm it all to themselves.

 

[Rasheed]

Looking good, hopefully the rates are on point and neither too good or abysmal, grinding might become fun again.

 

[xXxX]

Good to see all the drops being redone, as a suggestion maybe have a higher chance of getting a mass drops from the ''Super'' orcs which currently randomly spawn and are a fair bit stronger than the regular orcs, at the moment there appears to be 0 drop difference between the 2 just more pain lol =P.

Also i think atleast a bene or wgo should drop off most bosses.

 

[DeadGirl]

Lol, you know Turrican is going to go absolutely batshit when he get's home from france and see's this? Since he has no idea you're even touching his drops lol.

Though drops should have been sorted 2 months ago, agreed.

 

[Follower]

Lol, you know Turrican is going to go absolutely batshit when he get's home from france and see's this?

He should have done it sooner then? lol

 

[Shane/Banshee]

About 2 months ago

 

[kickey]

Probably too little too late.

 

[GladiusExiles]

The fact we're getting heard gives me high hopes for this server, it can only get better! People will always leave to go to servers that have been opened longer because they're more established and have had more time to fine tune the player bases wants and needs. This server is so new and as long as the GMs keep communicating with the player base then I still have hope it'll improve.

Good job to all the team.

 

[DaBop]

I know you've said that this 'BigRat' is an example but are those the actual drop rates for the mob?

It's just that seems a little easy :P

clearly don't have a clue how odds work if you think 1/10,000 is easy lol

 

[superscampi]

Lol, you know Turrican is going to go absolutely batshit when he get's home from france and see's this? Since he has no idea you're even touching his drops lol.

Though drops should have been sorted 2 months ago, agreed.

His incompetence has brought us to this point.

 

[ILovePie:D]

The fact we're getting heard gives me high hopes for this server

Amen.

Until now, it's been "put up or shut up".

As they've stated, they don't play the game. At least now they have a wide range of peoples views to look into, all of which seem to say the same...

 

[Shane/Banshee]

Thats why they should post an actual drop file.
if they did personally I would need to no a few other factors.

No.1 the mobs spawn rate on all floors
no.2 factor in how many hunt that floor over 24 hours.
No.3 factor in how fast they die.
no.4 how many other 30 weps drop from it.
no.5 your mass dropping file on top of this.
no.6 after you have done 1 to 5 you can then work out how many of that item will drop given a period of time in which you expect for it to drop.

if these are not calculated your wasting your time and everyone's hopes.

 

[CremeEgg82]

Lol, you know Turrican is going to go absolutely batshit when he get's home from france and see's this? Since he has no idea you're even touching his drops lol.

Though drops should have been sorted 2 months ago, agreed.

I don't know the guy so I'll try to be delicate in my response. If he's going to get bent out of shape regarding this then he should have done a proper job the first time round, or listened to the suggestions that were made after the leak of the files.

Failing to act on known issues is not good for anyone. Pretending there wasn't a key issue with the files and the way that they were written (to be honest they looked like they had been written in a manner that was purely designed to save time) is also no good for anyone.

A decent set of drop files will be a good start to building bridges with the community and hopefully see people return.

I would even be willing to give up some of my spare time (which isn't much) to helping or advising on certain areas.

 

[Dorf]

Thats why they should post an actual drop file.
if they did personally I would need to no a few other factors.

No.1 the mobs spawn rate on all floors
no.2 factor in how many hunt that floor over 24 hours.
No.3 factor in how fast they die.
no.4 how many other 30 weps drop from it.
no.5 your mass dropping file on top of this.
no.6 after you have done 1 to 5 you can then work out how many of that item will drop given a period of time in which you expect for it to drop.

if these are not calculated your wasting your time and everyone's hopes.

at last someone posting the correct way to go about making dropfiles.. every other thread on here is balls, SAM + TEAM READ THIS... in fact, everyone who is considering making a server read this, it should be made sticky in flashing bright lights as a banner on lomcn, we might actually get a decent server once in a while.. it's called using logic and maths, there is no 'guess-work' involved, and it's what a proper server team would be implementing from the start.. (can I remove my tongue now shane?) Seriously, there really isn't a mystery to drops, it's all in the maths, which does actually obey the rules of logic, well 99% of the time anyways..

 

[davey_boyy]

SKILLS SKILLS SKILLS skill books NEEED to drop as iv been saying over and over what is point of lvling if no skills dropping?? what is point in playing we have these fun new skills and loads of usual old ones that don't ever drop not 1 book in 3 months??.

Skill book rates are No1 priority the idea of rare skill on a private server is just wrong they should be attainable for the average player the server will end up dead before we see all the skills in action and that is such a waste.....it shud work that ppl have the book FIRST and THEN have to lvl up to use it then lvl even more to get it to lvl 3, this helps keep ppl motivated and carry on lving if you know you have a book to use it will make ppl lvl more play more, Mega rare rates on skills is bad for the server.

 

[The NightAngel]

Thats why they should post an actual drop file.
if they did personally I would need to no a few other factors.

No.1 the mobs spawn rate on all floors
no.2 factor in how many hunt that floor over 24 hours.
No.3 factor in how fast they die.
no.4 how many other 30 weps drop from it.
no.5 your mass dropping file on top of this.
no.6 after you have done 1 to 5 you can then work out how many of that item will drop given a period of time in which you expect for it to drop.

if these are not calculated your wasting your time and everyone's hopes.

Wouldnt number 2 and 3 change on a regular basis? Leaving you on a constant loop and never reaching number 6?
So you do your calculations.. 24 hrs 5 people 100 mobs 1 lvl 30 item. Word gets out..
50 people , 2000 mobs (based on better kitted people killing faster) 20 lvl 30 items... And broken again.