AE Holy vs SC!

Westie

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As im getting throught the levels i have started looking at up coming gear/what to refine and what to put on it, also checking out the gear of other Taos around me, plus talking to people and one thing i keep getting told is look for/add AE holy..
Im just wonder how much SC is worth Sacrificing for Holy, for example, lose Sc0-5 ring for Sc0-1 and Holy +2 or 3? Same with bracelets?
Any info or stats as to compare would greatly appreciated!
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hi, i will try to explain from what jamie said, plus what me and other taos doing.jamie said, 1 holy dmg = 2 dmg points. and ofc 1 sc = 1 dmg point.so if monster has no mr, i would asume, holy will always do more.but if the mob has high mr, compared to your sc, ,then adding sc maybe more helpfull.it really depend on what your hunting. i try to focus more on my holy but i also tried to add as much sc as possible, without sacrificing holy.however, accessory refine can be both expensive and time consuming sometimes. i am sure alot of taos have started with lvl 1 bracelet that may have not been ideal, i try to start with a accessory that already has something added to make more value out of the refine.for example, a nice ring of dawn with +1 AE holy maybe perfect to start refine. also u can try for added sc ring or accessory. i found a ring with 2 added sc for a total of 5 sc and its a low level cheap ring to refine.I have seen other taos go for more, defensive stats as well. you can also start with a magic bracelet or gold bracelet , what ever u fancy. the higher level caves actually hurt so it may be usefull to have some mr in your gear too.so far i got sc 76 and holy 53, and i can solo in the highest dungens, but i do take a lot of dammage from those magical things in higher level caves, so i am not totally sure i got the best kit really. it's a work in progress.hope this helps!
 

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As much holy as possible, while maintaining your SC breakpoints for your buffs. Buffs are possible the only thing that SC has over elements, except being able to change dungeon easily. Everyone goes holy these days due to west desert, so changing dungeon is not really very relevant.
 

Westie

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Thanks for your input guys, much appricated.

As much holy as possible, while maintaining your SC breakpoints for your buffs. Buffs are possible the only thing that SC has over elements, except being able to change dungeon easily.

Can you expand on what you mean by 'breaking points' for the buffs?
 

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I think he means by break point, a point in time where your increased sc matters more than your increased holy.if we take a simple example. a monster in WD has 32 MR and you have sc 0-32, with +10 holy.your sc in that case is too low, so adding holy is not that beneficial. your hits are blocked..what you can do is, build more sc by getting better items, so if it's 5-40 sc instead, then that gives you more room to hit the breaking point which is 32 MR. some hits will be still blocked , but if they get through, they will be enhanced by your holy .now my calculation could be off, jamie may know more, but this is how i think it works.
 

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I think he means by break point, a point in time where your increased sc matters more than your increased holy.if we take a simple example. a monster in WD has 32 MR and you have sc 0-32, with +10 holy.your sc in that case is too low, so adding holy is not that beneficial. your hits are blocked..what you can do is, build more sc by getting better items, so if it's 5-40 sc instead, then that gives you more room to hit the breaking point which is 32 MR. some hits will be still blocked , but if they get through, they will be enhanced by your holy .now my calculation could be off, jamie may know more, but this is how i think it works.

That's also important, but also SC effects the 4 buffs depending on how much you have of it. Not sure of the specific values on here, but on previous servers I have played you got 1 extra AC/MR on your buffs for every 7 SC. So if you had 70sc, you would get 10ac/mr, if you had 69 you'd get 9ac/mr, so it's important to maintain that SC, but going over it you get the same benefit (10ac/mr) until you hit 77. Very important to group play, while you might only get +1 holy for sacrificing +2 for a few more sc, +1 holy on the entire group is far more important than that +2 on you.

At least this was how it worked on every previous server I've played in the past decade.


Edit: scratch all that, sc doesn't change buffs on this server. Just stack holy, that's all that really matters sadly.
 
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Westie

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Going by what holo said there it it may be worth having 2 sets gear, 1 with high holy for damage while solo and 1, with high SC for group runs to get buff and health ups?

Im still pretty low level a present so don't think of it effects me much right now, but good to know in future..
 

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Going by what holo said there it it may be worth having 2 sets gear, 1 with high holy for damage while solo and 1, with high SC for group runs to get buff and health ups?

Im still pretty low level a present so don't think of it effects me much right now, but good to know in future..

Cost is obscene, and having high element means you are actively able to contribute rather than being literally just a buff bot lol.
 

Westie

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Cost is obscene, and having high element means you are actively able to contribute rather than being literally just a buff bot lol.
So the key is to try and get a good balance between the 2, makes sense.
Cheers for the advise! :)

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oh? the only reason i stack HOLY is so that my mass heal amount is more constant compare to SC... noticeable it is about +30hp for every 10 holy..
then i can heal on my fatty meat shield shin.. then attack spell .. n heal again before the healing from 1st cast wore off.. ..
 

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So far i think i have managed to get a good mix of +30 holy and just under 60 sc, at level 34 this will do me for the time being as a can now easily solo BP, where would be the next solo area for a tao and at what level?
 

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So far i think i have managed to get a good mix of +30 holy and just under 60 sc, at level 34 this will do me for the time being as a can now easily solo BP, where would be the next solo area for a tao and at what level?

Numa ruins should be fairly easy with that much elem/sc. Or West Desert, but I find that place is full of wizzies trying to mass lure, and one of them is annoyingly fast so you can't aoe as nicely as it could have been.
 

Westie

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Numa ruins should be fairly easy with that much elem/sc. Or West Desert, but I find that place is full of wizzies trying to mass lure, and one of them is annoyingly fast so you can't aoe as nicely as it could have been.
I havent tried Numa ruins yet, i did try and get in west desert the other day and barely got through the door, when i did i found they killed my pets way too quick.
Where is Numa ruins?


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So far i think i have managed to get a good mix of +30 holy and just under 60 sc, at level 34 this will do me for the time being as a can now easily solo BP, where would be the next solo area for a tao and at what level?
you can solo now in West Desert or numa since u got better pets.however, duo with another tao there is faster i found, specially if you got some decent coordination.easier options JCP i guesss, or farm lower caves killing mass mobs like ants.