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Retaliator

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Assassins can clear Fate Quest Cave -> Balanced
Archers can hunt and pay for their pots while making some gold -> Balanced

The game is suffering harder and harder each day stuff like this goes unfixed.
I used to farm gold with repeatable quests which I never agreed with yet thought it had its reasons, yet learning not even a Wizzard can farm, who should be able to outsustain lower caves with their good AOE and make gold can't either I can't see a viable fun way to farm gold except boring chestnuts everyone does anyway.

If people can't even farm unless say a lvl 36+ farming BC because they can't afford pots then what's the point in playing?

Or am I actually expected to farm say 12 hours of BC for gold and pots and then hunt a higher level place for 2 hours and go back to gold farm?
 

Pottsy

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Sitting quite happily on 500k at least without having to farm gold specifically....you're just no good at Mir lol
 

NightScare

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Sitting quite happily on 500k at least without having to farm gold specifically....you're just no good at Mir lol

This,

Makes me laugh Level 26 weps are going for 3m+ and people complaining gold is to hard to make?

Some people just make bad choices in their leveling area's.

I did 22-30 in BC, because it was the only place i could hunt without buying a single pot and making 100k every 2 hours.


Stop leveling PT/PSC and you'll be fine.
 

LionMir

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Assassins can clear Fate Quest Cave -> Balanced
Archers can hunt and pay for their pots while making some gold -> Balanced

The game is suffering harder and harder each day stuff like this goes unfixed.
I used to farm gold with repeatable quests which I never agreed with yet thought it had its reasons, yet learning not even a Wizzard can farm, who should be able to outsustain lower caves with their good AOE and make gold can't either I can't see a viable fun way to farm gold except boring chestnuts everyone does anyway.

If people can't even farm unless say a lvl 36+ farming BC because they can't afford pots then what's the point in playing?

Or am I actually expected to farm say 12 hours of BC for gold and pots and then hunt a higher level place for 2 hours and go back to gold farm?

When ever has a wizz been able to TS in decent lvling areas and earn cash???????
 

Retaliator

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This,

Makes me laugh Level 26 weps are going for 3m+ and people complaining gold is to hard to make?

Some people just make bad choices in their leveling area's.

I did 22-30 in BC, because it was the only place i could hunt without buying a single pot and making 100k every 2 hours.


Stop leveling PT/PSC and you'll be fine.
The fact that I'm unhappy to hunt bc at lvl 35+ because it's the only good place with a proper gold/xp ratio that in fact can sustain itself instead of leaving me broke unable to buy pots to level in places that are actually my level isn't reason enough to say I don't know how to play, however the fact that you're happy to level up at level 30 in a cave level 7's do aswell...

another example is the quest Kill the raiding Monsters that you get at about level 4 and it asks you to kill 10 cats and 5 omas, while I understand you'd want the 5 omas to be harder to kill I believe they should have added Health as opposed to the big increase in ac from the raking cats which makes them really hard to kill at level 4 forcing the player to kill the 10 cats first before the omas pretty much rather than hunting both at once, while you can call me bad don't forget its pretty much an intro quest...
 
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Hastelloy

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I think sometimes people want it too easy, you are forgetting that this is low rate. For me for example I am an archer and we burn through pots. in my current levelling area (rmv for quest) I use 1 pot per ape that I kill.. 20mobs = 10k, the quest alone is 150 that's without other spiders etc which are on the way. But this applies to any hunting area its very expensive as an Archer. Instead of moaning about it, I spend 1 night of the week dedicated soley to hunting for cash, so I will mix it up between BC, Chestnut trees/ebony and the repeateable zombie quests and just keep on repeating them and at the end of the night (5hours give or take depending how hard I go at it) I have enough money there to hunt solo for the rest of the week plus a bit spare. If I get into group hunts I have even more money left over as I tend to use less pots. making money isn't difficult but in the same light its not handed to you on a plate. And that's the way it should be, welcome to a proper mir server.
 

Noobius

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Buy attuned mind cost you nothing then in RMV that's what I di
 

joking

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Who are these Rambo wannabes lvling in BugCave at lvl 7 like??!!!

I have about 250k gold... not a great deal... but that gold is gonna last me a good 15-20 hunts.... I dont see an issue.

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ok tell a lie maybe 10-15 hunts
 

Hastelloy

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Buy attuned mind cost you nothing then in RMV that's what I di
level 26 atm mate, already have it in stores!! Did that quest then ran from TV to Sailor to teleport to PI in bw... en route I harvested every nut tree, ebony tree, mushroom etc and after teleporting to pi sold my findings for 60k, easy money!!
 

norman

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3m for 26 weaps makes me cry that I sold a archer 26 weap for 150k :( LOL
 

Retaliator

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I think sometimes people want it too easy, you are forgetting that this is low rate. For me for example I am an archer and we burn through pots. in my current levelling area (rmv for quest) I use 1 pot per ape that I kill.. 20mobs = 10k, the quest alone is 150 that's without other spiders etc which are on the way. But this applies to any hunting area its very expensive as an Archer. Instead of moaning about it, I spend 1 night of the week dedicated soley to hunting for cash, so I will mix it up between BC, Chestnut trees/ebony and the repeateable zombie quests and just keep on repeating them and at the end of the night (5hours give or take depending how hard I go at it) I have enough money there to hunt solo for the rest of the week plus a bit spare. If I get into group hunts I have even more money left over as I tend to use less pots. making money isn't difficult but in the same light its not handed to you on a plate. And that's the way it should be, welcome to a proper mir server.
Welcome to unbalancing, as you said you're an archer, archers dont spend all that much on pots, not as any melee does anyway. You are supposed to get proper income to sustain your pot usage at the very least, if you think otherwise then it's not me who wants it too easy its you who wants it too hard and probably didnt play any other mmorpg, now don't come back and say mir is the hardest. I'm fine if you think its the way it should be but don't tell me its the proper way, it's not that greedy to want to at least be able to keep farming a proper place suitable of my level without having to hunt low level or whatnot to be able to afford pots.

In fact, an example, WoW, probably the best MMORPG in its time, in Vanilla, all kinds of consumables, which are a bonus and not exactly mandatory(let's say pot impact/storm and whatnot on cooldown and keep it up all your guild hunts) was hard yet never as hard as it is to keep up the essential HP/MP Pots as it is on this server at this moment.
On top of that, now say you want to be really good at Mir and pot up the impact/storms... thats unthinkable when it should be a heavy burden on your wallet, yet doable, that's how economys broken.
 
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daneo1989

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I sold double blades for 450k, but sitting nicely at 1.7m I ain't paying 2-3mill for a weapon ill just hunt for the fakerfaker
 

neptuneshaun

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I would of said to add item drops to the higher level caves a bit more, PT for example dropping a little more lower item mobs, but the amount of items you see that people leave on the floor is un real. you name the cave an people leave pots and gold an items on the floor, mainly because there not added and cant get them the quick cash they want.

I do however agree that there needs to be a little bit moe in dop files in the way lower items drop from all caves, but if they did that would certain people just leave them on floor again.
 

terriblen

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Its always hard to make money in the early weeks of a server even the stupidly easy ones. Server has been up for 2 weeks and people complaining about how rare things are. When all the bosses and sub bosses in all the caves are being killed every spawn and there still aren't any of these things for sale then you can complain about drop files.