You should discuss/consider about the attack speed of Archers in my opinion it could be a touch faster - sure u got strongest single hit but for the low health and the great mana usage it would help - against other classes i.e. MagicShield and so on - i dont say harder hits but faster shortened spell delays to be competive.
Archers
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They have a spell to increase atk speed temporarily. Atk speed on items might give Archers a boost but i dunno tbh.
Ah ok that would explain much *i made an account (Archer) for my Daughter and helped her to level some ~ and noticed this difference.
After testing my DPS on trainer, my taoist can do more damage in 1 minute than my Archer which is 10 levels above (that's with lvl 3 skels, not lvl 7).
I think the attack speed boost spell being boosted would help, it doesn't increase the a. speed to the degree I was expecting.
I think the overall rankings speak for the archer leveling speed :-/ Guess it depends if everyone agrees or not... Least an a speed boost wouldn't overpower us in PvP, as warrior can hit 1.8x quicker normally anyway (with a double hit via TDB). G'won, give it us
I think the attack speed boost spell being boosted would help, it doesn't increase the a. speed to the degree I was expecting.
I think the overall rankings speak for the archer leveling speed :-/ Guess it depends if everyone agrees or not... Least an a speed boost wouldn't overpower us in PvP, as warrior can hit 1.8x quicker normally anyway (with a double hit via TDB). G'won, give it us
Levl 2 rapid fire decreases cast speed from 1.85sec ish to 1.6sec, a 13.5% speed increase meaning a total of 5.4 sec bonus seconds gained. Minus the time taken to cast rapid speed & the MP cost, not worth the effort...
These are my figures from testing on trainer 5x only so are approximate, but it's disappointing. Is this as intended? I thought lvl3 would be a 60% speed increase but obviously I don't see anything like that happening now :-/
Is this working as intended?
These are my figures from testing on trainer 5x only so are approximate, but it's disappointing. Is this as intended? I thought lvl3 would be a 60% speed increase but obviously I don't see anything like that happening now :-/
Is this working as intended?
Hope this is reviewed at some point, problem continues, sins will always kill quicker than us I accept that, but was hoping to kill slightly quicker to the speed of warriors, I just think the a speed is a touch too slow and that rapid fire doesn't do much to correct that, maybe a slight increase to rapid fire? I heard the phrase "rapid fire, equivilent to +6/8 (can't remember which) a speed" used once but this certainly isn't the case as assassin hit 80% faster with their a. speed boost, not saying it should be that quick, just quicker than it is now :-/
Especially since we can't you any source of attack speed what so ever other than rapid fire.
Seems abit rubbish that we cant use gale rings and neckys.
Lightning now does more single target damage then archers lol. Note that I have no skills over 34 yet (not dropping for me :P).
Yeah I noticed this when a wiz lower than me did 100 dmg with lightning, thing is that could easily be to multiple mobs in a row as well :-( Well the pets get in there and keep them busy while also out-DPSing us :-P
The rant continues... (justifiable so IMO)
My partner plays sin and can make 2x exp per hour as me with worse items, I've perfected the most efficient technique on both so I know this is the case. Reflected on the rankings, but not fair. Be quicker for me to restart as a sin, in 4 weeks I'd out level what I could hope to achieve on my archer even from the current point :-/
This really does still need addressing and it's nothing to do with DC.
Sure archers do have it harder until they get Lvl3 static shot but even then they can keep up with the leveling pace of the other classes currently. Today at work I worked out the total exp for the top 10 of every class and it shows the top 10 warriors have about 13% more total exp than archers, assassins and wizards higher but that's to be expected.
I do think given the nature of Archers they should be able at least keep up with the killing speed of warriors which clearly isn't currently possible. The only solution I can think of is a 10-15% speed increase to all Archer skills including SS & single target hits.
I realise some may disagree, to those that do please offer serious suggestions. If you think I'm talking crap go ingame and observe the killing speed difference of Archer/Warrior/Sin 32+ and you will see for yourself.
I don't think it's fair to expect Archers to take 2x as many seconds to kill each a mob as a warrior from 32+, I can't personally comment on 41+ as I'm not there yet, but I can see from the rankings Archers aern't keeping up the same pace (just look at the difference in the top 100)
Please acknowledge the problem, give the Tao's their bloody increases shinsu/deva speed but just give us the single target DPS we were promised :-(
Please no make me sad any longer :-(
Sure archers do have it harder until they get Lvl3 static shot but even then they can keep up with the leveling pace of the other classes currently. Today at work I worked out the total exp for the top 10 of every class and it shows the top 10 warriors have about 13% more total exp than archers, assassins and wizards higher but that's to be expected.
I do think given the nature of Archers they should be able at least keep up with the killing speed of warriors which clearly isn't currently possible. The only solution I can think of is a 10-15% speed increase to all Archer skills including SS & single target hits.
I realise some may disagree, to those that do please offer serious suggestions. If you think I'm talking crap go ingame and observe the killing speed difference of Archer/Warrior/Sin 32+ and you will see for yourself.
I don't think it's fair to expect Archers to take 2x as many seconds to kill each a mob as a warrior from 32+, I can't personally comment on 41+ as I'm not there yet, but I can see from the rankings Archers aern't keeping up the same pace (just look at the difference in the top 100)
Please acknowledge the problem, give the Tao's their bloody increases shinsu/deva speed but just give us the single target DPS we were promised :-(
Please no make me sad any longer :-(
Should balance archers for pvp tbh. No matter how much agil/m resist you have as long as they have deadly aim they will never miss and hit you for 100s nearly every time.
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